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That’s the thing. Development is way more about

Posted on: November 29, 2021 at 13:38:24 CT

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The work a player put in than the what the coach is doing. Most of the credit should always go towards the player.

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is there a player in the Cuonzo Martin era who improved - Ace AU - 11/29 12:13:20

Geist improved dramatically every year he was in the program - Jeff85 MU - 11/29 15:32:18

Has the team, from year 1 to year 5, in the Cuonzo Martin - MizzouTigerz MU

- 11/29 14:30:25

To me, Barnett is probably the best example - FIJItiger MU

- 11/29 12:55:31

Barnett played for Barnes at Texas, not Smart. nm - Sigma MU - 11/29 15:08:46

Good call, I stand corrected (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 11/29 15:22:15

Jordan Geist certainly spent his own time improving, - MizzouTigerz MU

- 11/29 14:17:16

no one asked you to do so(nm) - TigerA MU - 11/29 14:18:17

FIJI did - Jordan Geist certainly improved vastly in his - MizzouTigerz MU

- 11/29 14:21:32

Barnett's numbers under Kim and CM were virtually identical. - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/29 13:24:17

once again. it's not all averages(nm) - TigerA MU - 11/29 13:25:18

If it is not reflected on the scoreboard then it is pretty - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/29 13:29:06

Probably not the right question - KC rules MU - 11/29 12:37:06

Almost all of them that stayed improved - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/29 12:19:46

improving any amount isn't a badge of honor(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 11/29 13:36:06

no but the original post asked if anyone improved(nm) - TigerA MU - 11/29 13:36:55

Which one might expect with NO coaching. Like, - GA Tiger MU - 11/29 13:11:20

That has been proven false many times over. But you keep - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/29 12:43:17

It’s never been proven false (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/29 12:45:58

Multiple times, you just chose to keep denying it. - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/29 13:21:04

We have had this discussion before - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/29 13:36:32

You do realize that 'per 40' is simply a rate. Every stat - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/29 13:41:59

No one that understands basketball used per - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/29 13:43:13

How is a per 40 any different than a per 100 possessions - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/29 14:30:05

Tilmon did a lot more than just stay on the floor. - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/29 14:41:21

Yes(nm) - Mormad MU - 11/29 12:19:42

tilmon, pinson, kobe just to name a few(nm) - TigerA MU - 11/29 12:18:15

Tilmon was supposedly a lottery pick out of high school - Ace AU - 11/29 12:20:48

No tilmon was never rated that high(nm) - TigerA MU - 11/29 12:21:16

Consensus T 50 big who never made any All Conf team - LamarFrazier MU - 11/29 13:35:11

i never said he didn't. he said he was supposed to be a - TigerA MU - 11/29 13:43:07

That’s what several posters here are judging - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/29 13:44:38

If you saw tilmon in person at the ku exhibition - SuperTone MU

- 11/29 12:19:41

Tilmon's per minute played numbers were unchanged over - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/29 12:44:35

you are only looking at numbers and don't remember how - TigerA MU - 11/29 13:23:40

That’s the thing. Development is way more about - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/29 13:38:24

The numbers do not show that. Even if they did shouldn't a - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/29 13:26:10

That is how i saw it too.(nm) - SuperTone MU

- 11/29 13:09:33

being more consistent is an improvement and he - TigerA MU - 11/29 12:20:55

Not from what I saw.(nm) - SuperTone MU

- 11/29 12:29:14

Nikko and Geist. It is a short list. As for Nikko - SuperTone MU

- 11/29 12:15:44

Geist for sure improved. He is the only player that you can - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/29 12:45:43

I think Mitch improved - a lot of that was getting stronger - Mormad MU - 11/29 12:54:19

you don't think Kobe Brown has improved at all?(nm) - TigerA MU - 11/29 12:46:17

Year one to two, not really. This season it looks like it - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/29 13:27:19