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Probably not the right question

Posted on: November 29, 2021 at 12:37:06 CT
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Players are going to improve regardless of coaching because of growing experience and maturity. A great coach can take a player with initial mediocre skills and coach him up to be a big contributor. In that sense, I think Geist improved beyond what most expectations were for him and Martin gets some credit.

On the other hand, I think Martin writes off some players early on that he probably should have stuck with.

Edited by KC rules at 12:38:46 on 11/29/21
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is there a player in the Cuonzo Martin era who improved - Ace AU - 11/29 12:13:20
     Geist improved dramatically every year he was in the program - Jeff85 MU - 11/29 15:32:18
     Has the team, from year 1 to year 5, in the Cuonzo Martin - MizzouTigerz MU - 11/29 14:30:25
     To me, Barnett is probably the best example - FIJItiger MU - 11/29 12:55:31
          Barnett played for Barnes at Texas, not Smart. nm - Sigma MU - 11/29 15:08:46
               Good call, I stand corrected (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 11/29 15:22:15
          Jordan Geist certainly spent his own time improving, - MizzouTigerz MU - 11/29 14:17:16
               no one asked you to do so(nm) - TigerA MU - 11/29 14:18:17
                    FIJI did - Jordan Geist certainly improved vastly in his - MizzouTigerz MU - 11/29 14:21:32
          Barnett's numbers under Kim and CM were virtually identical. - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/29 13:24:17
               once again. it's not all averages(nm) - TigerA MU - 11/29 13:25:18
                    If it is not reflected on the scoreboard then it is pretty - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/29 13:29:06
     Probably not the right question - KC rules MU - 11/29 12:37:06
     Almost all of them that stayed improved - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/29 12:19:46
          improving any amount isn't a badge of honor(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 11/29 13:36:06
               no but the original post asked if anyone improved(nm) - TigerA MU - 11/29 13:36:55
          Which one might expect with NO coaching. Like, - GA Tiger MU - 11/29 13:11:20
          That has been proven false many times over. But you keep - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/29 12:43:17
               It’s never been proven false (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/29 12:45:58
                    Multiple times, you just chose to keep denying it. - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/29 13:21:04
                         We have had this discussion before - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/29 13:36:32
                              You do realize that 'per 40' is simply a rate. Every stat - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/29 13:41:59
                                   No one that understands basketball used per - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/29 13:43:13
                                        How is a per 40 any different than a per 100 possessions - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/29 14:30:05
                                             Tilmon did a lot more than just stay on the floor. - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/29 14:41:21
     Yes(nm) - Mormad MU - 11/29 12:19:42
     tilmon, pinson, kobe just to name a few(nm) - TigerA MU - 11/29 12:18:15
          Tilmon was supposedly a lottery pick out of high school - Ace AU - 11/29 12:20:48
               No tilmon was never rated that high(nm) - TigerA MU - 11/29 12:21:16
                    Consensus T 50 big who never made any All Conf team - LamarFrazier MU - 11/29 13:35:11
                         i never said he didn't. he said he was supposed to be a - TigerA MU - 11/29 13:43:07
                              That’s what several posters here are judging - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/29 13:44:38
          If you saw tilmon in person at the ku exhibition - SuperTone MU - 11/29 12:19:41
               Tilmon's per minute played numbers were unchanged over - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/29 12:44:35
                    you are only looking at numbers and don't remember how - TigerA MU - 11/29 13:23:40
                         That’s the thing. Development is way more about - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/29 13:38:24
                         The numbers do not show that. Even if they did shouldn't a - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/29 13:26:10
                    That is how i saw it too.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 11/29 13:09:33
               being more consistent is an improvement and he - TigerA MU - 11/29 12:20:55
                    Not from what I saw.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 11/29 12:29:14
     Nikko and Geist. It is a short list. As for Nikko - SuperTone MU - 11/29 12:15:44
          Geist for sure improved. He is the only player that you can - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/29 12:45:43
               I think Mitch improved - a lot of that was getting stronger - Mormad MU - 11/29 12:54:19
               you don't think Kobe Brown has improved at all?(nm) - TigerA MU - 11/29 12:46:17
                    Year one to two, not really. This season it looks like it - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/29 13:27:19




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