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Posted on: July 19, 2021 at 11:00:02 CT
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After reading the story, correct me if I get a premise wrong

The teen used force in stealing car (even though owner was stupid)?


if so, was his use of disproportional force justified?
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     on a side note... - tigerNkc KC - 7/19 11:01:12
          For multiple reasons. - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 11:03:46
               So one can only defend themselves in their home state? (nm) - tcat KC - 7/19 11:07:26
                    That is one aspect of the law(s) I was referring to. - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 11:11:43
                         I wonder if a teen from olathe traveling to downtown KC for - tigerNkc KC - 7/19 11:16:19
                              from the national media? Yes. The whole state line - dangertim MU - 7/19 11:18:54
                              If crossing the state line factored into legal ramifications - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 11:18:22
                    it's the law passed by democratically-elected - dangertim MU - 7/19 11:09:57
     is stealing a running car really "carjacking"?(nm) - dangertim MU - 7/19 10:57:56
          no, no it's not (nm) - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 10:59:14
               yeah, now that i think of it. Assuming carjacking is - dangertim MU - 7/19 11:01:12
               Then what is it? (nm) - tcat KC - 7/19 10:59:59
                    "carjacking" involves violence - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 11:01:41
                         so is hoping in a car that is not running and driving away - tcat KC - 7/19 11:05:13
                              Correct. - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 11:06:58
                    stealing a car(nm) - dangertim MU - 7/19 11:00:16
                         So is a carjacking only when someone is in said car? (nm) - tcat KC - 7/19 11:06:04
                              Yes, that is part of the definition. (nm) - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 11:07:15
                                   ok, I understand where you are coming from. (nm) - tcat KC - 7/19 11:08:51
     More stupidity… - Outsider MU - 7/19 10:55:17
     wrong board - pickle MU - 7/19 10:53:14
          Honest question for my education. - dangertim MU - 7/19 11:00:02
               that’s a good question - pickle MU - 7/19 11:03:02
                    I agree. follow up: - dangertim MU - 7/19 11:11:28
                         Hire a private investigator to find where the car is. - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 11:14:27
                              correct - pickle MU - 7/19 11:16:48
                                   the emotional part of my brain wants to retaliate - but - dangertim MU - 7/19 11:23:55
                                   And perhaps the car wasn't worth tracking it down - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 11:21:49
                              but at that point, it's in her possession, so therefore it's - dangertim MU - 7/19 11:15:57
                                   Which is why ownership is more nuanced than possession (nm) - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 11:20:30
                                   DH would say she’s the de facto owner (nm) - pickle MU - 7/19 11:17:18
                                        He would also point out that you still do not - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/19 12:20:53
                                             no (nm) - pickle MU - 7/19 12:35:25
     And to the DA for marxmanship. nm - hokie VT - 7/19 10:52:52




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