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Do you agree with pickle and Murray Rothbard regarding

Posted on: July 15, 2021 at 14:41:05 CT
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the rights of parents and children?

https://mises.org/library/children-and-rights

Applying our theory to parents and children, this means that a parent does not have the right to aggress against his children, but also that the parent should not have a legal obligation to feed, clothe, or educate his children, since such obligations would entail positive acts coerced upon the parent and depriving the parent of his rights. The parent therefore may not murder or mutilate his child, and the law properly outlaws a parent from doing so. But the parent should have the legal right not to feed the child, i.e., to allow it to die.2 The law, therefore, may not properly compel the parent to feed a child or to keep it alive.3 (Again, whether or not a parent has a moral rather than a legally enforceable obligation to keep his child alive is a completely separate question.) This rule allows us to solve such vexing questions as: should a parent have the right to allow a deformed baby to die (e.g., by not feeding it)?4 The answer is of course yes, following a fortiori from the larger right to allow any baby, whether deformed or not, to die. (Though, as we shall see below, in a libertarian society the existence of a free baby market will bring such "neglect" down to a minimum.)
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Deep Rig... The Movie... - JeffB MU - 7/15 12:23:24
     lol - pickle MU - 7/15 12:25:09
          Answer Ace`s question below(nm) - tman MU - 7/15 12:54:56
          RE: lol - JeffB MU - 7/15 12:30:01
               coward 4 (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/15 12:32:11
                    Et tu, SwampTiger? You support pickle in his hypocritical - JeffB MU - 7/15 12:34:38
                         I don't see the double standard (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/15 12:49:14
                              Then you are choosing to be stupid on purpose. - RHAYWORTH MU - 7/15 13:25:58
                                   liar (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/15 13:27:32
                              It's pretty simple, really. pickle hounds people on here - JeffB MU - 7/15 13:14:16
                                   Oh boy, Jeff - kmawv8 KC - 7/15 13:27:10
                                        His sycophants always run to his defense. The policeman - JeffB MU - 7/15 13:38:29
                                             Your 3rd sentence is flat out false. - kmawv8 KC - 7/15 14:01:20
                                                  His views may be easy to understand, but if followed to - JeffB MU - 7/15 14:25:43
                                                       red herring. stay on topic, Jeff (nm) - pickle MU - 7/15 14:32:59
                                                       I agree with quite a bit of his beliefs. - kmawv8 KC - 7/15 14:31:44
                                                            Yes, this, exactly. If more people held pickle's belief - ummmm MU - 7/15 15:02:41
                                                                 Good grief ummmm. Fringe? Try repulsive. - RHAYWORTH MU - 7/15 15:15:55
                                                                      jesus christ, you're fcking dumb - ashtray UF - 7/15 16:05:15
                                                                      What belief of pickle's is repulsive? (nm) - kmawv8 KC - 7/15 15:24:30
                                                                           Child porn possession should be legal - RHAYWORTH MU - 7/15 17:31:47
                                                                                i’ve never made that argument - pickle MU - 7/15 17:36:41
                                                                                     Bullshyte. You have. - RHAYWORTH MU - 7/15 17:58:33
                                                                                          no, they’re your mischaracterizations (nm) - pickle MU - 7/15 18:33:27
                                                                                               Then clear it up. Explain your views on each and how they - JeffB MU - 7/15 20:13:44
                                                                                                    RE: Then clear it up. Explain your views on each and how they - pickle MU - 7/15 21:26:58
                                                                                                         Hypocrite. (nm) - JeffB MU - 7/15 21:43:17
                                                            Do you agree with pickle and Murray Rothbard regarding - JeffB MU - 7/15 14:41:05
                                                                 I agree with some aspects of that but not others. - kmawv8 KC - 7/15 14:55:45
                                                                      Which parts do you agree with and which do you - JeffB MU - 7/15 15:46:29
                                                                           is a parent a slave? (nm) - ashtray UF - 7/15 16:06:22
                                                                           In short, no. - kmawv8 KC - 7/15 16:05:19
                                                                                'I don't agree with government using laws as a deterrent to - JeffB MU - 7/15 16:16:31
                                                                                     Murder is a violation of another person's natural rights. - kmawv8 KC - 7/15 16:23:07
                                                                                          It would seem that your views differ a bit from pickle's - JeffB MU - 7/15 16:45:34
                                                                                               They don’t differ from his as much as you may think. - kmawv8 KC - 7/15 18:09:22
                                                                                                    I don’t wish to see it burn - pickle MU - 7/15 18:35:51
                                                                                                         That is a fantasy that will never come true. (nm) - JeffB MU - 7/15 20:12:55
                                                                                               LMFAO - pickle MU - 7/15 17:03:04
                                                                           you will never understand the issue, Jeff (nm) - pickle MU - 7/15 15:51:06
                                                                                and you will continue to run and hide from it. (nm) - JeffB MU - 7/15 15:53:06
                                                                                     i’m right here, Jeff. why can’t you be honest? - pickle MU - 7/15 16:02:39
                                                                                          You have refused to clarify your thoughts repeatedly pickle(nm) - JeffB MU - 7/15 16:18:02
                                                                                               no i haven’t. why are you lying? (nm) - pickle MU - 7/15 16:21:12
                                                                                                    You are the liar pickle. I asked you many times for - JeffB MU - 7/15 16:47:17
                                                                                                         Jeff, i told you Oct 2014 - pickle MU - 7/15 16:59:32
                                                                                                              Again, you are the liar here. I stated that you have - JeffB MU - 7/15 17:08:44
                                                                                                                   no, Jeff - pickle MU - 7/15 17:10:49
                                                                      Jeff doesn’t understand rights - pickle MU - 7/15 15:12:25
                                                                           You are projecting pickle. I completely understand Rothbard' - JeffB MU - 7/15 16:52:18
                                                                                no you don’t - pickle MU - 7/15 17:21:45
                                                                                     Because you are a weasel who tries to be vague and - JeffB MU - 7/15 17:57:29
                                                                                          stop lying, Jeff - pickle MU - 7/15 18:40:28
                                                                                               You are the liar, pickle, and always have been. (nm) - JeffB MU - 7/15 21:25:09
                                                                           And all of that I agree with. - kmawv8 KC - 7/15 15:22:12
                                                                 quit diverting. stay on topic, Jeff. - pickle MU - 7/15 14:43:54
                                                                      Irony. You were the one who hijacked this thread pickle. - JeffB MU - 7/15 14:48:57
                                                                           you keep misusing that word, Jeff - pickle MU - 7/15 14:54:21
                                                                                Irony. I have explained the correct use of the word to you - JeffB MU - 7/15 15:04:00
                                                                                     you misused it again - pickle MU - 7/15 15:07:07
                                                                                          No I didn't. You are too hard headed to learn. (nm) - JeffB MU - 7/15 17:16:12
                                                                                               yes you did, Jeff (nm) - pickle MU - 7/15 17:21:15
                                                                                                    RE: yes you did, Jeff (nm) - JeffB MU - 7/15 21:44:04
                                             it doesn't hold - SwampTiger MU - 7/15 13:41:47
                                                  Sure he's a troll. He apparently enjoys being an azzhole. - JeffB MU - 7/15 13:43:29
                                                       that’s not what he said. why can’t you pay attention? (nm) - pickle MU - 7/15 13:47:40
                                                            There you go again with your word parsing. - JeffB MU - 7/15 14:21:05
                                                                 that’s not parsing. - pickle MU - 7/15 14:32:24
                                                                 no, one can troll and not be a troll - SwampTiger MU - 7/15 14:26:24
                                                                      Pickle trolls on here often enough that I think it is fair - JeffB MU - 7/15 14:29:14
                                                                           no (nm) - pickle MU - 7/15 14:33:36
                                                                 reading comprehension is not "word parsing" - ashtray UF - 7/15 14:26:17
                                                       acknowledge your policeman metaphor mistake (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/15 13:45:23
                                                            I disagree with your take on that. All analogies fall short - JeffB MU - 7/15 14:19:27
                                                                 Just to humor you, what would you say your job is - kmawv8 KC - 7/15 14:41:52
                                                                      To read posts and engage in discussion. (nm) - JeffB MU - 7/15 14:43:59
                                                                           Well you're not living up to your job duties then. - kmawv8 KC - 7/15 14:57:17
                                                                 it was a mistake - ashtray UF - 7/15 14:27:32
                                                                 well, you're wrong and this, I think, is a good example - SwampTiger MU - 7/15 14:25:35
                                                                      His sycophants do indeed run interference for him, which - JeffB MU - 7/15 14:33:59
                                                                           you first (nm) - ashtray UF - 7/15 16:02:32
                                                                           you would be more credible if you acknowledged mistakes (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/15 14:42:02
                                                                           you simply refuse to listen - pickle MU - 7/15 14:38:02
                                                                                Irony. (nm) - JeffB MU - 7/15 14:54:06
                                                                                     you keep misusing that word - pickle MU - 7/15 14:55:05
                                                            he’s R-U-N-N-O-F-T (nm) - pickle MU - 7/15 13:59:26
                                             your dishonesty is incurable (nm) - pickle MU - 7/15 13:41:47
                                             when has he ever claimed authority? - ashtray UF - 7/15 13:39:54
                                        that's the go-to for the entire Cult of Retards (nm) - ashtray UF - 7/15 13:30:11
                                             I just like to comment on it when there are posts like - kmawv8 KC - 7/15 13:36:17
                                                  Oh BS. Many of those posts are followups to posts that he - JeffB MU - 7/15 13:41:11
                                                       no, Jeff - pickle MU - 7/15 13:45:45
                                                            Wow what a twisted view of reality you have pickle. I tried - JeffB MU - 7/15 17:38:10
                                                                 that is exactly what happened, Jeff - pickle MU - 7/15 18:52:07
                                                                      BS. As I recall you aren't against ALL government, just - JeffB MU - 7/15 20:16:12
                                                                           and this is why i said we're done here - pickle MU - 7/15 21:28:00
                                                  it's a really stupid cult (nm) - ashtray UF - 7/15 13:37:58
                                   not only are you a liar - pickle MU - 7/15 13:23:07
                                        He posted plenty of examples. You run from the trutb - RHAYWORTH MU - 7/15 13:27:18
                                             neither you nor Jeff read beyond subject lines (nm) - pickle MU - 7/15 13:28:49
                                                  rhay can only read up to the 3rd grade level - ashtray UF - 7/15 13:31:12
                                                       and the sycophant follows his master, licking his boots the - JeffB MU - 7/15 14:50:08
                                                            you have nothing, Jeff - pickle MU - 7/15 14:53:29
                         answer the question, Jeff - pickle MU - 7/15 12:40:13
                              GFY hypocrite. (nm) - JeffB MU - 7/15 12:41:57
                                   there’s no hypocrisy on my end, Jeff - pickle MU - 7/15 12:49:20
                                        Of course you are a blatant hypocrite pickle. You pretend to - JeffB MU - 7/15 13:19:15
                                             you’re making up an awful lot of fantasies here - pickle MU - 7/15 13:21:58




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