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I found this to be a pretty good about what the goals should
Posted on: May 19, 2021 at 17:59:22 CT
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It seems that 20-30 years ago (probably early Quin days or late Norm days) was the last time Mizzou was considered a top 25-ish program. Besides that, they’ve been a peak of decent (one Elite 8 run under Snyder and another under Mike Anderson) and dreadful. I’m starting to wonder if Cuonzo can get us back to the Norm days. I find it befuddling that programs like Loyola, Butler and Wichita State can make the Final Four or title game, and we can’t get a win in the tournament over the last decade. Are my assumptions about what the program should be too high and how does Cuonzo actually break through? Signed a depressed Tiger alum. Appreciate all the good work you do! — Andrew B.
I’d say as late as 2013 you could have considered Mizzou a Top 25-ish program. The Tigers had made five straight NCAA Tournament appearances, and although the 2012 first-round exit was a disappointment, that team was a No. 2 seed and a legitimate Top-10 team. I don’t think it’s unrealistic to hope/want to get back to where Mizzou was in the 1980s and 1990s, where most years you were in the NCAA Tournament and your older teams were equipped to be in the top 10 or 15 range every four or five years. At the high-major level, I’m not sure history really matters anymore outside of the programs that have always been good. It’s all about the coach, facilities and recent success. Bruce Pearl, for instance, can win at Auburn. Fan support is also critical. The Tigers need to win enough to consistently draw good crowds to Mizzou Arena again. You cannot be considered a Top 25 program with the kind of crowds Mizzou had in Years 2 and 3 for Martin. (Obviously, this season is thrown out.)
Martin has evolved as a coach the last few years, and he is playing a style more desirable to recruits and fans. The next two to three years are critical for his future and the program’s. If he can build this new core into a group that’s able to be a top 15-ish team in a few years that goes on a tournament run and really gets the fan base excited, and he puts together a five-year stretch where he makes four tournaments, then people will start to see Mizzou as a Top 25 program again. The good news is he has it in a much better place than it was when he took over, but that was an all-time low.
It seems that 20-30 years ago (probably early Quin days or late Norm days) was the last time Mizzou was considered a top 25-ish program. Besides that, they’ve been a peak of decent (one Elite 8 run under Snyder and another under Mike Anderson) and dreadful. I’m starting to wonder if Cuonzo can get us back to the Norm days. I find it befuddling that programs like Loyola, Butler and Wichita State can make the Final Four or title game, and we can’t get a win in the tournament over the last decade. Are my assumptions about what the program should be too high and how does Cuonzo actually break through? Signed a depressed Tiger alum. Appreciate all the good work you do! — Andrew B.
I’d say as late as 2013 you could have considered Mizzou a Top 25-ish program. The Tigers had made five straight NCAA Tournament appearances, and although the 2012 first-round exit was a disappointment, that team was a No. 2 seed and a legitimate Top-10 team. I don’t think it’s unrealistic to hope/want to get back to where Mizzou was in the 1980s and 1990s, where most years you were in the NCAA Tournament and your older teams were equipped to be in the top 10 or 15 range every four or five years. At the high-major level, I’m not sure history really matters anymore outside of the programs that have always been good. It’s all about the coach, facilities and recent success. Bruce Pearl, for instance, can win at Auburn. Fan support is also critical. The Tigers need to win enough to consistently draw good crowds to Mizzou Arena again. You cannot be considered a Top 25 program with the kind of crowds Mizzou had in Years 2 and 3 for Martin. (Obviously, this season is thrown out.)
Martin has evolved as a coach the last few years, and he is playing a style more desirable to recruits and fans. The next two to three years are critical for his future and the program’s. If he can build this new core into a group that’s able to be a top 15-ish team in a few years that goes on a tournament run and really gets the fan base excited, and he puts together a five-year stretch where he makes four tournaments, then people will start to see Mizzou as a Top 25 program again. The good news is he has it in a much better place than it was when he took over, but that was an all-time low.
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I found this to be a pretty good about what the goals should - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/19 17:59:22