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We hire to try and avoid embarrassment

Posted on: May 19, 2021 at 14:59:05 CT

FIJItiger MU

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The two main criteria is 1) will someone call us an idiot for making this hire and 2) will this hire cause off the court embarrassment. Ironically by using that criteria we often find ourselves in both of the situations we are trying to avoid.

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Good recap of SEC rosters - FIJItiger MU

- 5/19 12:29:55

A&M may be down one of their transfers - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/20 13:00:28

Of that list only UGA is in worse shape than us entering - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/19 12:51:10

RE: Of that list only UGA is in worse shape than us entering - HSCoach STL - 5/19 18:25:08

CM's average finish in the SEC = 8.5 (out of 14)... - zounami MU - 5/20 05:39:08

RE: Of that list only UGA is in worse shape than us entering - onetiger MU - 5/19 15:34:15

Seriously? Please read that and put a good spin on it. - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/19 16:30:50

Nm - Tburger MU - 5/19 20:32:49

When have you seen a CM coached team give maximum hustle? - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/20 07:52:13

Watch the video. You will see long periods on offense where - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/20 08:17:22

Nm - Tburger MU - 5/20 08:04:10

I would add A&M and Vandy that are worse. - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/19 13:13:27

Anywhere from 10th to 14th - the808bass MU - 5/19 13:24:52

Exactly what to expect with a 12/14 budget (nm) - zoomer 99 - 5/19 13:35:30

Your argument is that we should fire CM - the808bass MU - 5/19 13:51:46

If you pay more for a better coach - zoomer 99 - 5/19 13:56:07

Hire a coach who can pack the Arena. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 5/19 14:00:09

Mizzou has been trying that for 20 years (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/19 14:08:39

10 years... Quin and MA were both great hires. (nm) - zounami MU - 5/20 05:26:27

Not really. Quin was the only new coach that people were - alwaysright MU - 5/19 14:38:13

I was excited about CMA. Watched a lot of UAB highlights - zoomer 99 - 5/19 14:56:07

Which was misguided and not a universal opinion. - alwaysright MU - 5/19 15:07:17

He has the highest win rate amongst MU coaches w/ 5+ years - zoomer 99 - 5/19 16:17:02

“Too good” is an opinion. Should be better is not - alwaysright MU - 5/19 17:44:31

I found this to be a pretty good about what the goals should - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/19 17:59:22

I don't feel this is accurate - FIJItiger MU

- 5/20 09:16:43

Then he will be gone in 2 years - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/20 09:35:39

Agree, or 1 if this season is a disaster - FIJItiger MU

- 5/20 09:40:34

Not all predictions here have been wrong. Many said CM was - sprintcar STL - 5/20 09:38:18

I don’t think he’s been as bad as most here do. - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/20 09:45:11

I don't think he's been terrible either. I think he's been - sprintcar STL - 5/20 09:50:16

Time will tell if he’s really mediocre - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/20 10:07:03

Not staying anywhere long is the sign of a really good coach - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/20 10:09:26

He has a couple more years to prove it here - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/20 10:11:25

I don't see how anyone can say he's in a much better place - sprintcar STL - 5/20 07:53:01

Pretty sure he is comparing the situation Cuonzo - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/20 08:04:29

Then you have to compare apples to apples. If you do not - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/20 09:04:43

It’s more than just the roster that you have returning - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/20 09:08:33

Then you have to use the same metric when comparing CMs - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/20 09:59:06

Maybe the national hoops reporters don't follow the program - sprintcar STL - 5/20 09:37:04

That is especially true when you factor in that CM had - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/20 10:07:18

Look at Baylor’s class rankings - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/20 10:15:49

What have their transfer classes looked like? - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/20 12:27:10

Most thought Drew was mediocre until the last - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/20 12:41:23

I don't think Drew is mediocre. I think he is worse (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 5/20 12:45:33

If not for Covid I think they go undefeated this season - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/20 12:49:17

The irony there is that Quin became the first MU coach - FIJItiger MU

- 5/19 14:41:51

The Braggin Rights performances - Genco98 MU - 5/20 10:59:12

Quin became the first MU coach to play a legitimate opponent - alwaysright MU - 5/19 14:54:57

Agree, I always point out that Soyoye was an incoming JUCO - FIJItiger MU

- 5/19 15:00:24

RE: Agree, I always point out that Soyoye was an incoming JUCO - HSCoach STL - 5/19 18:32:10

I know he’s a fan fave but he was not good. - alwaysright MU - 5/19 15:05:56

the "pump fake pump fake pump fake miss 2-footer" move - zoomer 99 - 5/19 16:42:01

He wasn't good offensively. He was a very good - FIJItiger MU

- 5/19 15:09:26

Agree totally. (nm) - Newcatbirdseat MU - 5/19 15:07:10

Since 2004 they tried that for about 2 months in 2017 - FIJItiger MU

- 5/19 14:23:36

Even Quinn’s teams didn’t pack the arena (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/19 14:26:16

That seems like a different point, but yes they did - FIJItiger MU

- 5/19 14:28:52

Find a coach that can win - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/19 14:53:00

We hire to try and avoid embarrassment - FIJItiger MU

- 5/19 14:59:05

wish it was that easy - zoomer 99 - 5/19 14:02:48

People thought that would be an exciting product. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 5/19 14:07:41

that's the danger of investing/trying to improve bball - zoomer 99 - 5/19 14:38:51

RE: that's the danger of investing/trying to improve bball - FIJItiger MU

- 5/19 14:44:19

not true. I was there and saw empty seats - zoomer 99 - 5/19 14:49:20

You are correct, because you are misinterpreting the metric - FIJItiger MU

- 5/19 14:56:29

You obviously did not read the list Fiji posted. - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/19 13:22:07

That is a pretty narrow range in my opinion - FIJItiger MU

- 5/19 13:15:52

Between 7-11 in a reboot year (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/19 13:25:28

We’re as good as 5 teams so we will finish ahead of 7 teams - the808bass MU - 5/19 13:27:33

Wu-T's logic has always escaped me. From that list of - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/19 13:36:28

You don’t understand analytics - the808bass MU - 5/19 13:46:17

You're right, I forgot analytics can turn underachieving - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/19 13:54:56

I don't follow them closely, but I don't understand what is - FIJItiger MU

- 5/19 12:54:01

Me either. With their athletic budget and facilities they - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/19 12:58:48

Their budget really shrunk during the Mark Fox years - zoomer 99 - 5/19 13:04:55

I was referring to overall budget. With their cash flow - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/19 13:08:45

maybe bball isn't worth investing in at UGA - zoomer 99 - 5/19 13:26:16

Its not like there isn't an abundance of talent in/around - FIJItiger MU

- 5/19 13:04:28

How many 4* players live within 200 miles of Athens?(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/19 13:10:02

For 2021? 6 For 2020? 8 - the808bass MU - 5/19 13:22:37

I counted closer to 30 from the '21 class from GA, FL, - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/19 13:30:40

Crean found a way to blow 2 top 20 classes - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/19 13:52:53

And you criticized me for saying we shouldn’t hire him. - alwaysright MU - 5/19 14:39:39

He’s been a big disappointment - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/19 14:55:08

I heard Georgia is a favorite to land Tre Mitchell - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/19 12:39:56