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I am not saying that we can just stumble out onto the court

Posted on: February 22, 2021 at 17:15:16 CT
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And do it. But if Missouri made smart decisions, that’s what they could be doing.

You have to look at the greater picture, and in the SEC we should always be in the top four. And if we are always in the top four, we are always making the tournament
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     Power 5 coach at Duke, TCU, Miami or Mizzou - ERB KC - 2/22 19:25:15
          Sweet 16 5 out of 10 years? - MIZtigerZOU MU - 2/22 18:49:16
               RE: Sweet 16 5 out of 10 years? - KC rules MU - 2/22 18:59:26
                    RE: Sweet 16 5 out of 10 years? - MIZtigerZOU MU - 2/22 19:22:06
     for MU, 70-80% is the benchmark - phrejd MU - 2/22 17:53:34
          Norm was in the tourney for 15 of his last 21 years - KC rules MU - 2/22 18:46:08
     It's got to be more than just the tournament - Missiurifarmboy MU - 2/22 16:47:53
          Assuming Mizzou holds its projected seed this will be the - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 16:57:35
     80%, there are going to be some down years too(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 15:32:15
          6 P5 teams have made 80%+ tourneys over the past 20 years - zoomer 99 - 2/22 15:40:16
               In the 20 yr period from 1976-1995 MU earned NCAA bids - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 15:43:51
                    "Our absolute highest peak is a good benchmark" (nm) - zoomer 99 - 2/22 15:44:55
                         20 year period is a good sample set to draw conclusions(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 15:46:21
                              Since that 20 year run - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 15:52:50
                                   That is very suboptimal. I was answering under - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 15:56:42
                                        Do you not know what the word "benchmark" means? (nm) - zoomer 99 - 2/22 15:58:14
                                             point of reference against which things may be compared(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 16:03:51
                                                  Is UCLA's benchmark 7 straight national championships? - zoomer 99 - 2/22 16:18:36
                                                       I don't care about UCLA, and am not in a position - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 16:22:09
                                                            Too cowardly for thought experiments. Alright (nm) - zoomer 99 - 2/22 16:26:40
                                                                 No offense, but this may not be your forte (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 16:27:22
                              lol (nm) - zoomer 99 - 2/22 15:47:11
                                   You asked for other 20 year examples - FIJItiger MU - 2/22 15:51:03
                                        lol (nm) - zoomer 99 - 2/22 15:52:09
               80%+ is pretty rare - zoomer 99 - 2/22 15:43:11
     Not all P5 is the same. In the SEC, MU should make - alwaysright MU - 2/22 15:04:27
          9 out of 10, no problem and at a school that barely tries - Jeff80 MU - 2/22 19:48:08
          nm - zoomer 99 - 2/22 15:24:09
          I bet very few non blue bloods make it at close to that rate - Eggs MU - 2/22 15:09:41
          That would mean Mizzou consistently outperforms - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 15:08:02
               I am not saying that we can just stumble out onto the court - alwaysright MU - 2/22 17:15:16
                    Mizzou needs a massive commitment increase - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 20:29:10
                         No, we need to be smarter. - alwaysright MU - 2/23 06:59:44
               How does spending more money, result in more wins, ?? nm - MU-TULSA MU - 2/22 15:25:49
                    There’s a pretty clear correlation to spending - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 15:33:00
                         Where do you need to increase spending, pay CM more - MU-TULSA MU - 2/22 16:23:02
                              Recruiting and assistants pool for starters - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 16:26:13
                                   We had Liddell, Christopher, Love, and Fletcher all - MU-TULSA MU - 2/22 16:31:55
                                        Having better assistants is part of it. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 16:37:50
                                             Agreed. (nm) - go tigers MU - 2/22 22:40:48
                                             If you want to say our facilities are not as good as other - MU-TULSA MU - 2/22 16:43:40
                                                  Facilities are actually pretty good. It’s too big - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 16:51:55
                                                       nm - MU-TULSA MU - 2/23 05:33:16
                    In a clear and direct way - zoomer 99 - 2/22 15:30:55
                         There are a lot of programs on that list that arent - MU-TULSA MU - 2/22 16:20:40
                              You have to have a purpose to your increased spending - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 16:29:39
                                   We are getting talent to look at MU but it appears they dont - MU-TULSA MU - 2/22 16:34:29
                                        Well most of those coaches that are “great” recruiters - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 16:40:02
                                             That has always been the ku way, personally if it required - MU-TULSA MU - 2/22 16:47:07
                                                  Mizzou wasn’t the only school that would hire Sr to get them - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 16:53:38
                                                       I would love to see the G league take all the players that - MU-TULSA MU - 2/22 17:43:36
                                                            I don’t see that ever happening. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 18:45:55
     If you don't have a team capable of competing for the - Fred G. Sanford USA - 2/22 14:52:19
          But it's how most P5 programs are currently measured - Eggs MU - 2/22 14:54:18
     67%(nm) - meatiger MU - 2/22 14:37:35
     for MU, 2 out of 3 years (nm) - zounami MU - 2/22 14:26:10
          CM's pretty close to that. 2 of 4 in a total rebuild (nm) - zoomer 99 - 2/22 14:28:52
               This year's offseason and next year's performance - Eggs MU - 2/22 14:36:11
                    Absolutely. He better land some Kassius Robertson-like - zounami MU - 2/22 14:42:09
                         That kind of guy should be the #1 target for transfers - Eggs MU - 2/22 14:47:14
               The jury's still out on CM in my opinion. If his recruiting - zounami MU - 2/22 14:30:29
          That's pretty much exactly the rate we've been at - Eggs MU - 2/22 14:26:57
               This season will make 11 of 22 since Norm retired (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 14:29:02
                    What was it pre-Haith and KA? That's when we basically gave - Lerxst MU - 2/22 15:26:03
                         Let’s just take all the bad years away and it’s 100% (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 15:34:03
                         RE: What was it pre-Haith and KA? That's when we basically gave - Eggs MU - 2/22 15:30:02
                              Thank you for answering w/out being a smart a$$ like you... - Lerxst MU - 2/22 18:14:47
                    Correct, but I put a bit of an * there due to the Kim years - Eggs MU - 2/22 14:33:25
                         Mizzou still misses the tournament in at least 1 of the 3 - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 14:46:43
                              He was put in a no-win situation after Haith cratered the - go tigers MU - 2/22 22:45:28
                                   No (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 22:52:24
                         I would exclude the Kim years and immediate post-Quin years - zounami MU - 2/22 14:37:55
                              So those years didn’t happen? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 14:49:24
                    due to the Quin fiasco and Kim hiring (nm) - zounami MU - 2/22 14:31:18
                         Those seasons happened - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 14:33:06
                              Agreed. (nm) - go tigers MU - 2/22 22:46:24
                              but they were flukes - it's silly to count them for the - zounami MU - 2/22 14:34:42
                                   Since those situations keep happening it’s not a fluke - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 14:38:13
                                        Cant blame MU for those cycles, - MU-TULSA MU - 2/22 15:12:00
                                             It’s definitely on Mizzou - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 15:16:01
                                                  But whether you want to admit it or not, - MU-TULSA MU - 2/22 17:58:41
                                                       When all the coaches failed or left because - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 18:44:32
                                        Wrong. Multiple flukes can happen, in fact they often do - zounami MU - 2/22 14:40:04
                                             I would be ok with Mizzou giving McCollum a shot - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 14:47:48
                                                  Good Lord. (nm) - Lerxst MU - 2/22 18:17:58
                                                       Have you watched his teams play? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 22:23:50
                                   ...and if you do count them, there needs to be an asterisk - zounami MU - 2/22 14:35:37
               Yeah, I saw your post below right after I posted it... - zounami MU - 2/22 14:28:40
               I think that's a realistic expectation, especially with a - playhard NWMSU - 2/22 14:28:37
     Our rate since the tourney expanded to 64 teams - Eggs MU - 2/22 14:23:54
          Actually 65.6% - Eggs MU - 2/22 14:25:42
               and now there are 68 teams, plus we've had bad luck with - zounami MU - 2/22 14:28:07
     for any school remotely considered a basketball school - SuperTone MU - 2/22 14:14:22
     Good question. Our legend Norm made exactly 50% - zoomer 99 - 2/22 14:13:23
          Starting in about 1978 - Tptiger MU - 2/22 14:49:27
               Yeah, I consider from 1976 on, we were kind of expected to - ShowMeKid MU - 2/22 15:41:40
          Several of those seasons were before the tourney expanded - Eggs MU - 2/22 14:23:26
     Norm made it 50% of the time and there were not as many - Erwin Fletcher STL - 2/22 14:12:46
          That's a good point and Norm took over an absolute - playhard NWMSU - 2/22 14:17:18
     What phase of their career? - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 14:12:45
          CM has been a P5 coach for 10 years now and this would - playhard NWMSU - 2/22 14:20:21
               It’s his 4th different job - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 14:25:35
                    Now that's a valid defense. (nm) - zounami MU - 2/22 14:41:16




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