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What is a realistic expectation for a power 5 coach to make - playhard NWMSU - 2/22 14:09:06

Power 5 coach at Duke, TCU, Miami or Mizzou - ERB KC - 2/22 19:25:15

RE: What is a realistic expectation for a power 5 coach to make - KC rules MU - 2/22 18:41:51

Sweet 16 5 out of 10 years? - MIZtigerZOU MU - 2/22 18:49:16

RE: Sweet 16 5 out of 10 years? - KC rules MU - 2/22 18:59:26

RE: Sweet 16 5 out of 10 years? - MIZtigerZOU MU - 2/22 19:22:06

for MU, 70-80% is the benchmark - phrejd MU

- 2/22 17:53:34

Norm was in the tourney for 15 of his last 21 years - KC rules MU - 2/22 18:46:08

It's got to be more than just the tournament - Missiurifarmboy MU - 2/22 16:47:53

Assuming Mizzou holds its projected seed this will be the - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 16:57:35

80%, there are going to be some down years too(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 2/22 15:32:15

6 P5 teams have made 80%+ tourneys over the past 20 years - zoomer 99 - 2/22 15:40:16

In the 20 yr period from 1976-1995 MU earned NCAA bids - FIJItiger MU

- 2/22 15:43:51

"Our absolute highest peak is a good benchmark" (nm) - zoomer 99 - 2/22 15:44:55

20 year period is a good sample set to draw conclusions(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 2/22 15:46:21

Since that 20 year run - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 15:52:50

That is very suboptimal. I was answering under - FIJItiger MU

- 2/22 15:56:42

Do you not know what the word "benchmark" means? (nm) - zoomer 99 - 2/22 15:58:14

point of reference against which things may be compared(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 2/22 16:03:51

Is UCLA's benchmark 7 straight national championships? - zoomer 99 - 2/22 16:18:36

I don't care about UCLA, and am not in a position - FIJItiger MU

- 2/22 16:22:09

Too cowardly for thought experiments. Alright (nm) - zoomer 99 - 2/22 16:26:40

No offense, but this may not be your forte (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 2/22 16:27:22

lol (nm) - zoomer 99 - 2/22 15:47:11

You asked for other 20 year examples - FIJItiger MU

- 2/22 15:51:03

lol (nm) - zoomer 99 - 2/22 15:52:09

80%+ is pretty rare - zoomer 99 - 2/22 15:43:11

Not all P5 is the same. In the SEC, MU should make - alwaysright MU - 2/22 15:04:27

9 out of 10, no problem and at a school that barely tries - Jeff80 MU - 2/22 19:48:08

nm - zoomer 99 - 2/22 15:24:09

I bet very few non blue bloods make it at close to that rate - Eggs MU - 2/22 15:09:41

That would mean Mizzou consistently outperforms - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 15:08:02

I am not saying that we can just stumble out onto the court - alwaysright MU - 2/22 17:15:16

Mizzou needs a massive commitment increase - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 20:29:10

No, we need to be smarter. - alwaysright MU - 2/23 06:59:44

How does spending more money, result in more wins, ?? nm - MU-TULSA MU - 2/22 15:25:49

There’s a pretty clear correlation to spending - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 15:33:00

Where do you need to increase spending, pay CM more - MU-TULSA MU - 2/22 16:23:02

Recruiting and assistants pool for starters - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 16:26:13

We had Liddell, Christopher, Love, and Fletcher all - MU-TULSA MU - 2/22 16:31:55

Having better assistants is part of it. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 16:37:50

Agreed. (nm) - go tigers MU

- 2/22 22:40:48

If you want to say our facilities are not as good as other - MU-TULSA MU - 2/22 16:43:40

Facilities are actually pretty good. It’s too big - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 16:51:55

nm - MU-TULSA MU - 2/23 05:33:16

In a clear and direct way - zoomer 99 - 2/22 15:30:55

There are a lot of programs on that list that arent - MU-TULSA MU - 2/22 16:20:40

You have to have a purpose to your increased spending - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 16:29:39

We are getting talent to look at MU but it appears they dont - MU-TULSA MU - 2/22 16:34:29

Well most of those coaches that are “great” recruiters - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 16:40:02

That has always been the ku way, personally if it required - MU-TULSA MU - 2/22 16:47:07

Mizzou wasn’t the only school that would hire Sr to get them - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 16:53:38

I would love to see the G league take all the players that - MU-TULSA MU - 2/22 17:43:36

I don’t see that ever happening. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 18:45:55

If you don't have a team capable of competing for the - Fred G. Sanford USA - 2/22 14:52:19

But it's how most P5 programs are currently measured - Eggs MU - 2/22 14:54:18

67%(nm) - meatiger MU - 2/22 14:37:35

for MU, 2 out of 3 years (nm) - zounami MU - 2/22 14:26:10

CM's pretty close to that. 2 of 4 in a total rebuild (nm) - zoomer 99 - 2/22 14:28:52

This year's offseason and next year's performance - Eggs MU - 2/22 14:36:11

Absolutely. He better land some Kassius Robertson-like - zounami MU - 2/22 14:42:09

That kind of guy should be the #1 target for transfers - Eggs MU - 2/22 14:47:14

The jury's still out on CM in my opinion. If his recruiting - zounami MU - 2/22 14:30:29

That's pretty much exactly the rate we've been at - Eggs MU - 2/22 14:26:57

This season will make 11 of 22 since Norm retired (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 14:29:02

What was it pre-Haith and KA? That's when we basically gave - Lerxst MU

- 2/22 15:26:03

Let’s just take all the bad years away and it’s 100% (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 15:34:03

RE: What was it pre-Haith and KA? That's when we basically gave - Eggs MU - 2/22 15:30:02

Thank you for answering w/out being a smart a$$ like you... - Lerxst MU

- 2/22 18:14:47

Correct, but I put a bit of an * there due to the Kim years - Eggs MU - 2/22 14:33:25

Mizzou still misses the tournament in at least 1 of the 3 - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 14:46:43

He was put in a no-win situation after Haith cratered the - go tigers MU

- 2/22 22:45:28

No (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 22:52:24

I would exclude the Kim years and immediate post-Quin years - zounami MU - 2/22 14:37:55

So those years didn’t happen? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 14:49:24

due to the Quin fiasco and Kim hiring (nm) - zounami MU - 2/22 14:31:18

Those seasons happened - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 14:33:06

Agreed. (nm) - go tigers MU

- 2/22 22:46:24

but they were flukes - it's silly to count them for the - zounami MU - 2/22 14:34:42

Since those situations keep happening it’s not a fluke - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 14:38:13

Cant blame MU for those cycles, - MU-TULSA MU - 2/22 15:12:00

It’s definitely on Mizzou - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 15:16:01

But whether you want to admit it or not, - MU-TULSA MU - 2/22 17:58:41

When all the coaches failed or left because - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 18:44:32

Wrong. Multiple flukes can happen, in fact they often do - zounami MU - 2/22 14:40:04

I would be ok with Mizzou giving McCollum a shot - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 14:47:48

Good Lord. (nm) - Lerxst MU

- 2/22 18:17:58

Have you watched his teams play? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 22:23:50

...and if you do count them, there needs to be an asterisk - zounami MU - 2/22 14:35:37

Yeah, I saw your post below right after I posted it... - zounami MU - 2/22 14:28:40

I think that's a realistic expectation, especially with a - playhard NWMSU - 2/22 14:28:37

Our rate since the tourney expanded to 64 teams - Eggs MU - 2/22 14:23:54

Actually 65.6% - Eggs MU - 2/22 14:25:42

and now there are 68 teams, plus we've had bad luck with - zounami MU - 2/22 14:28:07

for any school remotely considered a basketball school - SuperTone MU

- 2/22 14:14:22

Good question. Our legend Norm made exactly 50% - zoomer 99 - 2/22 14:13:23

Starting in about 1978 - Tptiger MU - 2/22 14:49:27

Yeah, I consider from 1976 on, we were kind of expected to - ShowMeKid MU - 2/22 15:41:40

Several of those seasons were before the tourney expanded - Eggs MU - 2/22 14:23:26

Norm made it 50% of the time and there were not as many - Erwin Fletcher STL - 2/22 14:12:46

That's a good point and Norm took over an absolute - playhard NWMSU - 2/22 14:17:18

What phase of their career? - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 14:12:45

CM has been a P5 coach for 10 years now and this would - playhard NWMSU - 2/22 14:20:21

It’s his 4th different job - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/22 14:25:35

Now that's a valid defense. (nm) - zounami MU - 2/22 14:41:16

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