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you’re asking the wrong question

Posted on: February 18, 2021 at 17:40:57 CT
pickle MU
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we know through observation that humankind has the inherent and unique tools for logic and reason. we know we exist in the material world, that we are a part of nature and as natural beings, subject to the laws of nature (not natural law as you are using it, but as limitations of the material world and its laws and involuntary actions such as aging and the life cycle).

so as part of nature and belonging to nature, let us use these unique tools of our species:

Do you exist?
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     Before the beginning there was no universe at all. - TrumpToRushmore MU - 2/18 16:59:02
          something set the physical laws - gravety, acceleration, etc - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/18 17:18:24
               that looks like a made-up list - pickle MU - 2/18 17:23:10
                    you deny there are built in human - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/18 17:29:11
                         yeah, i’m denying it - pickle MU - 2/18 17:34:56
                              you see someone about to walk into oncoming traffic - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/18 17:46:47
                                   not every person has those things - pickle MU - 2/18 17:58:47
                                        I didn't make the claim that people don't break these laws - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/19 00:31:25
     that doesn’t look like natural law to me (nm) - pickle MU - 2/18 16:45:07
          what do you consider natural law?(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/18 17:15:00
               i don’t - pickle MU - 2/18 17:21:46
                    you make yourself out to be a philosopher of sorts - tigerinhogtown STL - 3/8 15:27:51
                    ok, so what is the "nature" you spoke of earlier? - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/18 17:24:32
                         the material and observational world and its phenomena (nm) - pickle MU - 2/18 17:28:41
                              Explain to me how the material and observational world - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/18 17:34:28
                                   you’re asking the wrong question - pickle MU - 2/18 17:40:57
                                        yes, I do exist, BUT how does that existence - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/18 17:56:35
                                             who, other than you, owns your life, body, and mind? - pickle MU - 2/18 18:01:34
     RE: 5 natural laws (derived from human reason - a unique trait - sarasotatiger MU - 2/18 16:30:50




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