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Before the beginning there was no universe at all.

Posted on: February 18, 2021 at 16:59:02 CT
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And then the universe got invented.

And a jillion things got invented inside that universe.

And every single one of them was created and invented.

Not a single thing you can observe is 'natural' - it is all, every bit of it, AN INVENTION.

All you're seeing here is a bunch referees jockeying to claim their preferred rulebook is the one that RULES THEM ALL, and we should therefore stand down and recognize the 'ULTIMATE RULES'

It's the same game beings in this universe have been playing since it was created.

So enough.

It's whatever we want it to be, or whatever we agree it should be or whatever the one with the most weapons says it will be.

But none of it is 'inherent', 'inalienable', 'natural' or even 'god-given'.

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     Before the beginning there was no universe at all. - TrumpToRushmore MU - 2/18 16:59:02
          something set the physical laws - gravety, acceleration, etc - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/18 17:18:24
               that looks like a made-up list - pickle MU - 2/18 17:23:10
                    you deny there are built in human - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/18 17:29:11
                         yeah, i’m denying it - pickle MU - 2/18 17:34:56
                              you see someone about to walk into oncoming traffic - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/18 17:46:47
                                   not every person has those things - pickle MU - 2/18 17:58:47
                                        I didn't make the claim that people don't break these laws - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/19 00:31:25
     that doesn’t look like natural law to me (nm) - pickle MU - 2/18 16:45:07
          what do you consider natural law?(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/18 17:15:00
               i don’t - pickle MU - 2/18 17:21:46
                    you make yourself out to be a philosopher of sorts - tigerinhogtown STL - 3/8 15:27:51
                    ok, so what is the "nature" you spoke of earlier? - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/18 17:24:32
                         the material and observational world and its phenomena (nm) - pickle MU - 2/18 17:28:41
                              Explain to me how the material and observational world - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/18 17:34:28
                                   you’re asking the wrong question - pickle MU - 2/18 17:40:57
                                        yes, I do exist, BUT how does that existence - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/18 17:56:35
                                             who, other than you, owns your life, body, and mind? - pickle MU - 2/18 18:01:34
     RE: 5 natural laws (derived from human reason - a unique trait - sarasotatiger MU - 2/18 16:30:50




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