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You're conflating the House impeachment with the Senate

Posted on: February 10, 2021 at 11:51:20 CT
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I'm asking about the House impeachment while he was in office. Was that constitutional?
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With the impeachment of a president who has already - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/10 11:24:55
     How are Trump fluffers...I mean followers being punished? - mizzoumurfkc KC - 2/10 11:46:21
          cancel culturists. using "trump fluffers" says a bunch - 90Tiger STL - 2/10 12:11:20
          RE: How are Trump fluffers...I mean followers being punished? - Spanky KU - 2/10 11:55:57
          Really, there have already been calls to not hire anyone - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/10 11:55:52
     lol (nm) - pickle MU - 2/10 11:37:38
          Ah, the board idiot speaks. It would not be a TB thread - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/10 11:47:18
               Be carful if you call him out. His stooges will attack you - hokie VT - 2/10 12:06:42
                    Too late, Swampthing already rode to his defense.(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/10 12:10:21
                         ironic as hell, the above 3 posts (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 2/10 12:11:53
     It's perfectly legal and constitutional. - RamblinScramblin MU - 2/10 11:29:33
          Not even close(nm) - redngray MU - 2/10 12:38:24
          RE: It's perfectly legal and constitutional. - MOCO SON MU - 2/10 11:40:40
               Actions & words have consequences. - RamblinScramblin MU - 2/10 12:22:09
          And it unites the country. In an effort that has virtually - hokie VT - 2/10 11:39:09
          Purging soliders of the military based on their - mizzouSECedes STL - 2/10 11:36:56
               Purge? Good Lord. Get off InfoWars. - RamblinScramblin MU - 2/10 11:37:41
                    Lol, literally, and I mean LITERALLY - mizzouSECedes STL - 2/10 11:40:53
          lol did you read that on the Huffington Post website - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/10 11:33:06
               No. I read Article 1 and 2 of the Constitution. - RamblinScramblin MU - 2/10 11:36:06
                    lol well you obviously didn't understand it idiot - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/10 11:38:59
                         generally with charges comes a trial(nm) - meatiger MU - 2/10 11:43:12
                              Not normal for impeachments (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 2/10 11:47:27
                              lol what?(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/10 11:46:04
                                   An impeachment is a charge..correct? - meatiger MU - 2/10 11:47:53
                         nor does it preclude it. And it explicitly provides a remedy - TigerJackSwartz MU - 2/10 11:42:02
                              By adding that additional remedy that is only available - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/10 11:45:41
                                   Dems are not really good a looking at the possible - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/10 11:51:11
                                        You're conflating two things that aren't necessarily equal. - TigerJackSwartz MU - 2/10 11:57:03
                                             If found guilty do they swear him back in for a day so they - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/10 12:04:32
                                                  no, disqualify him for future office (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 2/10 12:10:10
                                                  criminal charges are taken up by an entirely different group - meatiger MU - 2/10 12:06:12
                                                       They are, where are those charges? Impeachnent is to - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/10 12:12:28
                                                            I dont know (nm) - meatiger MU - 2/10 12:34:09
                                   Was the impeachment constitutional (given it occured - TigerJackSwartz MU - 2/10 11:48:17
                                        The impeachment was. The trial is not. The penalty is - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/10 11:57:58
                                             the penalty is "removal from Office, and disqualification to - TigerJackSwartz MU - 2/10 12:00:39
                                                  AND, you guys seem incapable of understanding that is a - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/10 12:06:42
                                        I don't know it's never been tested in the SCOTUS - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/10 11:49:45
                                             So you have to wait for SCOTUS - meatiger MU - 2/10 11:51:37
                                                  No I have my own opinion but it isn't biding - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/10 11:53:41
                                                  that isn't what he said meat (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 2/10 11:53:15
                                                       He said "I don't know" - meatiger MU - 2/10 11:57:07
                                                            it still isn't what he said, meat (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 2/10 12:01:50
                                             You're conflating the House impeachment with the Senate - TigerJackSwartz MU - 2/10 11:51:20
                                                  Again I don't know it hasn't been challenged in the SCOTUS - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/10 11:53:12
                                                       Then the Senate has the power to try it. - TigerJackSwartz MU - 2/10 11:55:08
                                                            To what purpose? If they find him guilty they remove him - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/10 12:00:24
                                                                 "disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, - TigerJackSwartz MU - 2/10 12:01:27
                                                                      That is part of the removal from office hence the AND - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/10 12:09:42
                                                                 They can prevent him from ever taking public office - mizzouSECedes STL - 2/10 12:01:07
                                                            what you aren't understanding is that there is nothing to - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/10 11:56:58
                                                                 Which leads to an absurd result that a Senate could delay - TigerJackSwartz MU - 2/10 11:58:56
                                                                      Constitutionally maybe? After all they have the SOLE power - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/10 12:01:30
                              No, it explicitly provides a remedy in addition to removal - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/10 11:43:45
                         It says PRECISELY that. - RamblinScramblin MU - 2/10 11:40:44
                              lol no dip$hit point it out - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/10 11:41:40
          nope. If it was, Roberts would be presiding - Spanky KU - 2/10 11:32:29
               Read Article 1 and 2 of the Constitution. - RamblinScramblin MU - 2/10 11:36:38
                    You may wish to do the same(nm) - Spanky KU - 2/10 12:33:01
               Instead, we have a judge who stated trump was guilty. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/10 11:33:48
     Everything that's going on now is to punish opponents and - sprintcar STL - 2/10 11:29:32
     The impeachment was before he left office(nm) - meatiger MU - 2/10 11:26:47
          correct but a trial becomes moot once he left(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/10 11:34:21
               not if there is a specified remedy other than removal - TigerJackSwartz MU - 2/10 11:38:06
                    Removal from office AND ... - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/10 11:42:11
                         No, it doesn't require both parts - mizzouSECedes STL - 2/10 12:21:32
                              No, if that were the case it would say OR or AND/OR - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/10 12:33:38
                                   Then the majority of the impeachment rulings - mizzouSECedes STL - 2/10 12:56:12
                         correct(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/10 11:51:18
                    You have to get a conviction before even reaching the - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/10 11:41:14
                         Was it OK for the House to impeach him? - TigerJackSwartz MU - 2/10 11:45:44
                              I can see that as being upheld, but again once he left - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/10 11:48:38
                                   But the consititution says "The Senate has the sole Power to - TigerJackSwartz MU - 2/10 11:54:17
                                        lol their power is tied to the remedy - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/10 11:55:53
                                             the remedy of disqualification of office is not moot (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 2/10 12:02:16
                         but he was impeached while in office - gmmm98 MU - 2/10 11:44:04
                              He was impeached a week before leaving office, that most - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/10 11:45:19
                                   Absurd or not, it was constitutional, correct? (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 2/10 11:47:11
                                        since he did not commit treason, a high crime or - blake1771 MU - 2/10 13:04:11
                                   no(nm) - gmmm98 MU - 2/10 11:47:08
          So what is the Senate up to now if not impeachment? - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/10 11:34:01
               It has more effects then just removal from office(nm) - meatiger MU - 2/10 11:37:06




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