and the king of the hypocrites doubles down again.

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JeffB - February 26, 2020 at 09:23:20 CT
If there is no God how can there be any such thing "morals"?
If you are a random collection of atoms just like rock and zebras are... and you act according to the laws of nature there could be no free will, correct? If all of the molecules within you act according to those laws they are what generate your thoughts. How could you change them?

If you have no free will, how could you be accountable for "immoral" behavior? Who determines what is moral or immoral? What difference does it even make if you rearrange the molecules of some other being, whether human or not, if at some point the sun will explode and all life on earth ends anyway?

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In Pickletopia should Nikolas Cruz be released from his cage
and given his gun, ammo & bullet proof vest back?


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Should everyone have free access to buy, sell, manufacture or test nuclear weapons?

Should everyone be free of any and all laws of any government they choose not to accept as having authority over them, at least while they are on their own property or on the property of someone who does not accept their authority?

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Morality is a completely subjective construct made up by each individual... for any atheist, no?
How could there be any objective "right" or "wrong" in a world with no God, no creator?

All things, all living things, all animals... including man, of course, are just random conglomerations of matter that happen to be in the current state by random chance, no?

All thought is just electrons flowing across synapses in the random collection of matter than forms a person's brain, no? Logically that all happens according to the "laws of nature" and there is no such thing as "free will".

How could random collections of atoms and molecules that act according to the laws of nature with no free will do something that is "moral" or "immoral". Would a rock that is pushed by the wind and rolls down a hill and smashes a house have been acting "immorally" for having done so?

Please explain.

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What is the distinction between being prejudiced and bigoted against people because of their race and being a racist?

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Easy question for you: Should this guy, who just admitted killing 6 people in cold blood be "put in a cage" as you like to call it?

Do you support the police arresting him and putting him in jail, & having a trial to decide whether he should spend a longer time in jail?

Or not?

If not, why not?
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You have yet to explain how twisting the arms and legs off of babies who have not aggressed against anyone is not a violation of your sacrosanct Non-Aggression Principle, pickle.

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If a group of people decided to camp on your front lawn and refused to leave when you asked them to, what would you do?

Ignore them and allow them to live there?

Call the police?

Use force to evict them?

Something else?

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If some guy decided to have sex with his goat in front of
your 8 year old daughter waiting for her school bus... but he was still on his own property, would that be an infringement of your rights, or your daughter's rights?
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So you refuse to dialogue. Again. Why do you try and hide the facts?

If your ancestors willingly came here and applied for citizenship for themselves and their families, that's a relevant fact, don't you think?
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running & hiding from questions re: Rothbard -- and crying dishonesty as cover

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Then could you explain your frequent questioning of the use of 'scare quotes'?

Reply: No.
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I guess pickle will continue to run and hide from questions again. SSDD.

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The hypocritical pickle strikes again.
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Pickle, show us you are not a lying coward & answer a simple question:
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What an unbelievable hypocrite you are, pickle. You are the KING of running and hiding from questions.
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Do you think lying is inherently immoral?

Or do you think the morality of lying can vary from situation to situation?
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pickle, a softball to prove you aren't as dishonest as ------- but he dances, dodges, runs and hides as per usual
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when questions about his support of abortion after decrying Butcher of Bakersfield's military service I challenged him on it. In typical pickle fashion:

you will always be ignorant of rights and you will never know what my beliefs are on anything, because you make no attempt to understand anyone else's view (and you suck at reading and logic)
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In the context of pickle claiming police pulling over robbery suspects is an infringement of their rights:

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JeffB:
If the robbery victim had sent their private police after them would it have been aggressing against them?

Are criminals home free once they turn and run after committing a crime?
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In the context of a policeman shot in the back of the neck and paralyzed by a felon after a traffic stop
JeffB: Do you think that the Ballwin cop infringed upon the would be murderer's rights?

Do you think the would be murderer was defending himself in any way?
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Do you think terrorists have a right to buy or make weapons of mass destruction?

Do they have a right to carry around their dirty bomb in the trunk of their cars?
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How can you be so c0cksure if you haven't heard the policeman's side of the story yet, nor seen or heard all of the evidence?

What is your definition of murder, btw?
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JeffB: Please explain for us why the right to life can only be understood in the context of property rights... and why anyone who frames it differently is just stupid.
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pickle: no i'm not going to fight your tar baby of stupidity, illogic, dishonesty, and non-existent reading comprehension
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& cowards like pickle will link to articles by these guys, but then deny he believes what they believe... and then refuse to clearly state his own position... all the while crying that you are dishonest or just don't understand what he truly believes. How pathetic.

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If Rothbard, who coined the phrase, anarcho-capitalism, doesn't speak for you on these issues, please tell me where your views differ from his. Specifically:

Ignoring for the moment whether the following actions are something you would recommend doing, or whether you think they are moral or not, I'll assume you wouldn't recommend any of these and that you probably think that they are immoral:

1. Should it be against the law for parents to not feed their children or give them water? Even if it means that they will die?

2. Should parents be free to not clothe children or to refrain from protecting them from the elements? Even if they would freeze to death?

3. Should parents be free to sell their children?

4. Should it be legal for women to deliberately kill their unborn children? Even if it is by violent means, such as by twisting off their arms & legs, stabbing them in the back of their skulls and sucking their brains out in order to facilitate collapsing their skulls, making them easier to be removed from their mothers' wombs?
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Speaking of the board's biggest question dodger...

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Harrass people to answer your silly questions, but running and hiding from questions directed at you.

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If Rothbard, who coined the phrase, anarcho-capitalism, doesn't speak for you on these issues, please tell me where your views differ from his. Specifically: ...
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and you run from dozens of questions, such as, but certainly not limited to:

Why do you favor a legal right to deliberately kill innocent human beings as long as they are still in their mother's wombs?

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Why do you refuse to denounce Rothbard's contention that parents have a legal right to not feed (aka starve to death) their children, or clothe them, and the right to sell them if they so choose?

In fact, you have posted links to his article advocating that and cut & pasted excerpts advocating the above but absolutely refuse to clarify your own beliefs in that regard.
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Can you show us where Natural Law was offered to and accepted by you... and me... and every other human being throughout the history of the world?
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Why your double standard, pickle? The HOA has a boundary where they declare jurisdiction as to dictate their rules on everyone else, enforced by the larger state, of course.

No one who lives there need consent. They are deemed to be under their jurisdiction regardless of consent or dissent just by the very fact of the boundaries they claim as their own.

You vociferously reject that for all governments who do the very same thing.
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Yes, among the MANY questions he can't/won't answer...
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Where do any humans get rights, apart from God?
'Natural rights' sans God boils down to survival of the fittest... kill or be killed... might makes right, no?

If all things and all beings are just random collections of molecules, why does the collection of random molecules that we call 'pickle' have any more 'rights' than the random pile of molecules that makes up a pile of dog poop?
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Where do any humans get rights, apart from God?
'Natural rights' sans God boils down to survival of the fittest... kill or be killed... might makes right, no?


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Where do any humans get rights, apart from God?
'Natural rights' sans God boils down to survival of the fittest... kill or be killed... might makes right, no?

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For at least the 3rd time I'll ask you...
If all things and all beings are just random collections of molecules, why does the collection of random molecules that we call 'pickle' have any more 'rights' than the random pile of molecules that makes up a pile of dog poop?
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Why does the random collection of molecules that make up man
have all of these 'natural rights' that no other random collection of molecules anywhere else on earth has?

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Please show how asking those open ended questions is a logical fallacy.
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So the bondsmen had a legally binding contract and
the alleged criminal refused to honor it... then what?

Does the aggrieved party have a right to force compliance... eg. use force or the threat of force?

If not, what should he do... ask the guy which mediator he would agree to handle their case?

and if he refuses to go to a mediator?
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What a lying hypocrite you are pickle...

The latest of many questions you've refused to answer pickle:

Do you think Tyler should go to jail for lying on the 911 call to bring in the cops on high alert to this guy's home for a completely made up crime in progress?

Do you even believe what he did is a crime?

What about the other two derelicts involved in this crime that resulted in the death of an innocent man, a father of two young children?
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whether or not you think someone should have a right to use force or the threat of force to stop the masturbator described below and why you feel as you do:

No one should have the right to prevent someone from masturbating in front of children, including their own children, unless that person owns the property said masturbator is masturbating upon.
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What happens if the policeman & swatters say FU to the
family's request for them to voluntarily submit to a private court?

How many games with a $1.50 payoff would they have to win (less those they lose, of course) to compensate the mother, wife and children of the man they had a hand in killing?
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Then own them or deny them. Quit running and hiding. Pick one and let's discuss it.
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Let's discuss the truth. Don't lie, run and hide this time.

1. Do you think masturbating in front of children in a schoolyard is harming anyone?

2. Do you think buying, selling or possessing kiddie porn is harming anyone?
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