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Posted on: March 1, 2020 at 14:04:16 CT
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most cases generally makes sense in various ways, it also ignores at least one very significant thing...human nature and it's reality. So you give examples of how charity can solve the ills of the unfortunate in health, as if everyone is willing to donate willingly and sufficiently to take care of those who need it.

Won't happen, without the force of gov't. You conveniently ignore so much of reality. You don't want the draft, yet gov't exists partly to protect life and liberty. So another nation, as they have for millenia, attacks our nation to take it over, but there is no enforced draft so the armed forces are far too small to defend our "life and liberty". And you have no answers for that, or surely dozens of examples I might give.

Wishful thinking cannot substitute for reality. It can create naivete and gullibility.
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a board refresher - pickle MU - 3/1 13:03:55
     a reality refresher. - MizzouTigerz MU - 3/1 15:53:03
          i reject your evil and anti-human code (nm) - pickle MU - 3/1 15:57:25
               RE: i reject your evil and anti-human code: Human nature - BH O'bonga MU - 3/1 16:34:18
               If, as you claim, there is no God, then there is no evil, - MizzouTigerz MU - 3/1 16:12:35
                    no, that is illogical and incorrect (nm) - pickle MU - 3/1 17:54:45
                         oh, pickle. You may go. - MizzouTigerz MU - 3/1 23:39:10
                    an absence of God doesn't imply random, doesn't imply - 90Tiger STL - 3/1 16:42:56
                         Your claim that Christianity teaches it is only faith - MizzouTigerz MU - 3/1 17:25:51
                              Oh, and all of that sounds like self-justifying nonsense - 90Tiger STL - 3/1 17:31:01
                              i never said "only". You're clearly incapable of respondi - 90Tiger STL - 3/1 17:30:05
                                   You said There's nothing remotely logical about God. - MizzouTigerz MU - 3/1 17:37:51
                                        There's nothing remotely logical about God (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 3/1 18:15:20
                                             iyeo - MizzouTigerz MU - 3/1 19:06:27
     Yes, that’s correct. That’s why i don’t vote - pickle MU - 3/1 15:20:00
          no, that's not correct - pickle MU - 3/1 15:56:35
               We have authoritarian government now - ashtray UF - 3/1 22:14:02
               i'm not following you at all - pickle MU - 3/1 17:52:16
     I can't see how that's threatening to anyone, other than if - 90Tiger STL - 3/1 14:25:02
     So, a libertarian would not want anyone to stop someone - Spanky KU - 3/1 14:06:59
          That’s an odd leap of logic. - pickle MU - 3/1 14:25:03
          A libertarian would support private roads where the owners - TigerMatt STL - 3/1 14:18:39
               And? Even in a private road scenario, the person driving - Spanky KU - 3/1 14:29:15
                    you're an idiot (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 3/1 16:43:28
                    yes but they have to follow the rules - meatiger MU - 3/1 16:10:17
                    Depends on if it’s accidental or intentional - pickle MU - 3/1 14:30:55
                         How do you accidently drive 100 MPH? - RHAYWORTH MU - 3/1 15:17:57
                              I was referring to being on the wrong side of the road - pickle MU - 3/1 15:23:55
                         He has not initiated force on anyone - Spanky KU - 3/1 14:33:27
                              property rights implies you can set rules and enforce - 90Tiger STL - 3/1 16:44:12
                              if it were intentional then he did - pickle MU - 3/1 14:37:22
                                   No... failure again for you(nm) - Spanky KU - 3/1 15:42:19
                                        no, that's not a failure on my part. - pickle MU - 3/1 15:58:11
                                             sigh...it is a failure on your part....still(nm) - Spanky KU - 3/1 16:40:11
                                                  no, Spanky. you don't understand property rights (nm) - pickle MU - 3/1 18:05:35
                              The driver would have violated the terms of agreement to - TigerMatt STL - 3/1 14:34:56
                                   how do you stop him from driving at the time of his - Spanky KU - 3/1 14:39:08
                                        PROPERTY RIGHTS, SPANKY (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 3/1 16:44:45
                                        he’s on someone’s property - pickle MU - 3/1 14:41:11
                                        How do you stop someone from walking into - TigerMatt STL - 3/1 14:40:08
                                             I have a lock...and can call cops to arrest anyone who - Spanky KU - 3/1 14:41:40
                                                  Sounds like something that could easily be privatized.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 3/1 14:52:12
                                                       Not easilly(nm) - Spanky KU - 3/1 17:22:28
                                                            taking back things from gvmt is hard. that's not an argume - 90Tiger STL - 3/1 18:25:17
               and those rules would, undoubtedly, include rules against - 90Tiger STL - 3/1 14:26:56
                    how do they stop the person since he has not initiated force - Spanky KU - 3/1 14:32:21
                         it's their property, they can enforce their property rights. - 90Tiger STL - 3/1 16:45:42
                              Can they kill the violator? Jail him?(nm) - Spanky KU - 3/1 17:21:53
                                   You never read the piece from yesterday, that much is - 90Tiger STL - 3/1 18:19:40
                         if it were intentional then he did - pickle MU - 3/1 14:39:52
                              If he was accidentally driving 100 mph down - Spanky KU - 3/1 14:43:25
                              It is remarkable but I already see his next argument and - TigerMatt STL - 3/1 14:40:51
                                   Yep (nm) - pickle MU - 3/1 14:41:25
                         Are you aspie? You really struggle to understand basic - TigerMatt STL - 3/1 14:36:48
                              No-one can initiate force on someone who has not - Spanky KU - 3/1 14:40:37
                                   Correct - pickle MU - 3/1 14:41:56
                                        Certainly it is....(nm) - Spanky KU - 3/1 14:43:58
                                             It isn’t in this subthread - pickle MU - 3/1 14:45:01
                                                  No difference in anyone’s mind but you and the struggling - Spanky KU - 3/1 15:05:11
                                                       the person breaking the rules of the property owner is - 90Tiger STL - 3/1 16:47:08
                                                       The only one struggling is you - pickle MU - 3/1 15:16:45
                                                            nope..try again - Spanky KU - 3/1 15:41:23
                                                                 you don't and you never have (nm) - pickle MU - 3/1 15:58:24
                                   Not respecting the property rights of others is initiating - TigerMatt STL - 3/1 14:41:40
     In spite of a doctrine that certainly sounds good and in - GA Tiger MU - 3/1 14:04:16
          it does no such thing, GAT - pickle MU - 3/1 14:26:13
          The military is not currently being used to protect - Newcatbirdseat MU - 3/1 14:14:21
     taxation is theft - pickle MU - 3/1 13:50:00
          No. I’d be killed if I did - pickle MU - 3/1 14:21:21
               of course (nm) - pickle MU - 3/1 14:25:18
                    i don’t understand the question (nm) - pickle MU - 3/1 14:52:29
                         Of course - pickle MU - 3/1 15:05:33
          Sounds more like private health care to me - SparkyStalcup MU - 3/1 13:52:35
               That’s a straw man - pickle MU - 3/1 14:20:32
     Good point sovereign citizen(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 3/1 13:23:13




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