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RE: Citizenship participation and decision making, federalism,

Posted on: February 19, 2020 at 10:15:24 CT
ummmm MU
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a. Federalism allows citizens to create governments at varying levels of society to support their needs. And just because you say I'm not a fan of federalism, doesn't make it so.

But you likened democracy to federalism. What if the local area instills a govt that has no democratic components? They really have little to do with each other, so I'm confused why you're trying to conflate them. And yes, you are not a fan of federalism, you are a staunch supporter of a big and strong central govt (you just want your preferred elite to be running it, instead of the current one).

b. Stay on message.

Yeah, I didn't think you would have much of a response to that.

c. People naturally create and form governments, yes. As civilizations and societies have settled, governments are the natural creation of those individuals. The individuals who helped to create the American gov't are those who you believe were infallible in their writing of the constitution.

No, they don't. Again, do you know anyone who has created and formed a government? Also, I don't believe that the individuals who wrote the Constitution were infallible; I've called the Constitution an incredibly flawed document multiple times on this Board. The Constitution represented a silent coup of power to increase the political power of the very few individuals who wrote and ratified it.

With that said, I'm still going to help people like you understand the original intent of the Constitution when you mistakenly say otherwise.

Edited by ummmm at 10:16:03 on 02/19/20
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     Citizenship participation and decision making, federalism, - MrBlueSky MU - 2/19 09:35:55
          So you are an ignorant commie(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 2/19 10:29:19
          It seems to me that I have very little decision making - Sal MU - 2/19 10:00:45
               Sal-- Do you feel you have more or less decision making - ummmm MU - 2/19 10:02:06
                    # 2 (nm) - Sal MU - 2/19 10:04:10
          RE: Citizenship participation and decision making, federalism, - ummmm MU - 2/19 09:45:19
               RE: Citizenship participation and decision making, federalism, - MrBlueSky MU - 2/19 10:08:39
                    RE: Citizenship participation and decision making, federalism, - ummmm MU - 2/19 10:15:24
                    there's nothing "natural" about forming governments - ashtray UF - 2/19 10:11:40
                         You aren't the president of your social group? (nm) - Sal MU - 2/19 10:13:25
                              I've tried to get Mrs SwampTiger to call me Mr. President - SwampTiger MU - 2/19 10:30:58
                              dictator (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/19 10:14:00
                         Of course there is. Hunter gatherers formed them - MrBlueSky MU - 2/19 10:13:21
                              No - pickle MU - 2/19 10:15:15
                                   yes, they did. Communal tribe organization - MrBlueSky MU - 2/19 10:15:52
                                        They did not. - pickle MU - 2/19 10:17:55
                              false - ashtray UF - 2/19 10:14:43
                              I'd say those who crave power form them - Sal MU - 2/19 10:14:11
                                   Government is about cooperation among people.(nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 2/19 10:15:12
                                        Oh yeah, are you and your Trump supporting friends - ummmm MU - 2/19 10:23:04
                                             I have a number of friends I disagree with politically (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 2/19 10:36:43
                                                  Would you go out in public with someone wearing a MAGA - ummmm MU - 2/19 10:41:21
                                                       Of course. (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 2/19 10:42:38
                                                            Have you? (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/19 10:45:14
                                                                 Yes. (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 2/19 11:02:56
                                                            I doubt it. (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/19 10:45:01
                                        that is patently false - ashtray UF - 2/19 10:18:22
                                        lmfao no (nm) - pickle MU - 2/19 10:17:10
                         he’s not going to understand that (nm) - pickle MU - 2/19 10:12:15
                              see here we are, as usual - MrBlueSky MU - 2/19 10:14:41
                                   where did i say fascist? are you drunk? (nm) - pickle MU - 2/19 10:16:01
                    false all the way around (nm) - pickle MU - 2/19 10:11:36
                         I disagree with your worldview - MrBlueSky MU - 2/19 10:13:43
                              It’s not a matter of disagreement - pickle MU - 2/19 10:16:40
               this is why people don't answer your questions ummmm (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/19 10:03:53
          begging the question (nm) - pickle MU - 2/19 09:37:35




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