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about "nation states" - a great point

Posted on: January 18, 2020 at 12:07:06 CT
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The Mythology of the Nation-State

Before proceeding further, it is useful to back up just a bit to remember that the nation-state as we know is a modern invention, and not an essential feature of society. In many ways, it is, as Bastiat said, nothing but an artifice that permits some to live at others' expense. He was of course speaking of the modern state, particularly that of nineteenth-century France, and all that he wrote applies in our time as well.

But states were not always structured as we know them today. From the fall of the Roman Empire to the late Middle Ages, societies in Europe were governed not by bureaucrats, elected councils, regulations, or any kind of permanent structural apparatus of coercion and compulsion, but by competing cells of authority that were woven together not by ideology, but by separate function. The merchant class managed its affairs, the church had its purview and courts, the international traders developed their code, feudal lords were masters of their domain, free cities managed themselves, the family was largely autonomous, and the state, such as it was, consisted of extended families and lines of rulers who dared not transgress their traditional authority.
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     So? * - Spanky KU - 1/18 12:37:52
     RE: If you read one article this year (or speech) - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/18 12:36:41
     I am in great agreement on most of this article. This - jonesin - 1/18 12:16:59
          So you have a beef with saying it is in man's NATURE - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 12:25:06
               But it doesn't. Your post makes my point. It is in our - jonesin - 1/18 12:42:35
                    we protect each other all the time, what does that have - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 13:50:04
     RE: If you read one article this year (or speech) - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 11:58:44
     No one is going to read that - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/18 11:52:27
          I read it all and broke it into Rags' sized pieces with high - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 12:23:14
               Impressive, multiple posts while simultaneously reading it - miz_zou MU - 1/18 12:51:34
                    it doesn't take very long to read that piece (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 13:50:26
               Man, you are one bored loser(nm) - Gyro MU - 1/18 12:24:29
                    ^ how a winner uses his precious time (nm) - pickle MU - 1/18 12:42:33
          RE: No one is going to read that - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 12:00:18
               RE: No one is going to read that - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 12:01:35
                    RE: No one is going to read that - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 12:01:56
                         R3eeeeeeeeeeeeee(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/18 12:04:18
                              RE: R3eeeeeeeeeeeeee(nm) - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 12:28:23
                         RE: No one is going to read that - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 12:02:41
                              RE: No one is going to read that - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 12:03:21
                                   RE: No one is going to read that - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 12:04:11
                                        gets promising here - - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 12:05:14
                                             RE: gets promising here - - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 12:05:57
                                                  about "nation states" - a great point - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 12:07:06
                                                       RE: about "nation states" - a great point - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 12:08:00
                                                            a big conclusion you'll mock Rags - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 12:09:05
                                                                 READ THIS PART RAGS - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 12:10:16
                                                                      RE: READ THIS PART RAGS - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 12:11:17
                                                                           technology and the state - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 12:12:07
                                                                                why most folks on this board think the way they do - - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 12:13:35
                                                                                     RE: why most folks on this board think the way they do - - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 12:14:09
                                                                                          tech returns to private capital and control and good things - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 12:15:21
                                                                                               RE: tech returns to private capital and control and good things - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 12:15:57
                                                                                                    the central planners become obsolete, anachronistic - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 12:17:16
                                                                                                         the elephant is ignored and dies - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 12:18:05
                                                                                                              Sure, mock Mises, and look the fool - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 12:19:05
                                                                                                                   Airports serve as a case study - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 12:19:49
                                                                                                                        what can you do? how should YOU think of gvmt? - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 12:21:26
                                                                                                                             Here is why pickle and IDEAS matter among men: - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 12:22:29
          i'm reading it (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 1/18 11:59:00
               You won't understand it(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/18 12:01:55




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