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I think there are a few different issues in play here.

Posted on: December 16, 2019 at 12:14:15 CT
JeffB MU
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Perhaps agreeing on the meaning of some terms can help clarify where we all stand. It seems to me that opposition to things the Israeli government is doing or has done is in no way either anti-Semitic or anti-Zionism. I believe there are significant numbers of Jews, both in Israel and abroad have disagreements with the Israeli government's actions and policies.

If Zionists are by definition those who advocate for the right of Israel to exist (see http://tigerboard.com/boards/view.php?message=16645895 ), then anti-Zionism would be a rejection of the idea that Israel has a right to exist, no?

Definitions:

anti-Zionist:

anti-Semite: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-Semite
: a person who has a hostile, prejudiced attitude toward Jews : an anti-Semitic person

anti-Semitic: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-Semitic
: relating to or characterized by anti-Semitism : feeling or showing hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a cultural, racial, or ethnic group

anti-Zionism: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-zionist
: opposition to the establishment or support of the state of Israel : opposition to Zionism
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Prager argues that being anti-Israel = anti-Jew... - JeffB MU - 12/16 10:55:45
     RE: Prager argues that being anti-Israel = anti-Jew... - raskolnikov MU - 12/16 11:24:28
          Zionism is the advocacy of the state of Israel, per - JeffB MU - 12/16 11:59:37
     I like prager and i like the yids, but i disagree with him - hokie VT - 12/16 11:09:05
          We agree here, at least in part. Weird(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/16 11:26:07
          My opinion has been that the way Israel was (re) established - JeffB MU - 12/16 11:14:57
               You end by asking a separate question, imo. The founding of - hokie VT - 12/16 11:25:51
                    Prager & Wikipedia assert that Zionism is the advocacy of - JeffB MU - 12/16 12:04:04
                         Sorry to cop out, but i don't know enough (or frankly - hokie VT - 12/16 12:16:49
                              But you’ll blindly support giving them foreign aid - pickle MU - 12/16 13:32:45
                              He is specifically addressing just the issue of anti-Zionism - JeffB MU - 12/16 12:21:37
                                   This may or may not answer your question. At this point, - hokie VT - 12/16 12:30:51
                                        Do you think the founding of Israel and the way land - pickle MU - 12/16 13:34:13
                                        anti-Semite ≠ anti-Zionist, however. You mostly argued - JeffB MU - 12/16 13:23:30
                                        wow - ashtray UF - 12/16 12:33:37
                         lol no - pickle MU - 12/16 12:10:00
                              So you are anti-Zionist? Israel does not have a right to - JeffB MU - 12/16 12:20:00
     Jews are individual people. Israel is a government. - TigerMatt STL - 12/16 11:02:15
          I agree, but he wasn't making the case that we have to like - JeffB MU - 12/16 11:16:01
               That still has nothing to do with Jews as a people. It is - TigerMatt STL - 12/16 11:32:27
                    I think there are a few different issues in play here. - JeffB MU - 12/16 12:14:15
          Except, Jewish history for two millenia, from the - GA Tiger MU - 12/16 11:06:58
     that’s one reason why he’s an idiot - pickle MU - 12/16 10:59:12
          Logical discussion is not your strong suit, as you demonstra - JeffB MU - 12/16 11:17:10




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