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RE: OTOH, Roger never saw two political parties who were

Posted on: December 8, 2019 at 10:38:37 CT
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There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.

- John Adams



The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries, which result, gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty

Without looking forward to an extremity of this kind, (which nevertheless ought not to be entirely out of sight,) the common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.

It serves always to distract the Public Councils, and enfeeble the Public Administration. It agitates the Community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms; kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which find a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.

There is an opinion, that parties in free countries are useful checks upon the administration of the Government, and serve to keep alive the spirit of Liberty. This within certain limits is probably true; and in Governments of a Monarchical cast, Patriotism may look with indulgence, if not with favor, upon the spirit of party. But in those of the popular character, in Governments purely elective, it is a spirit not to be encouraged. From their natural tendency, it is certain there will always be enough of that spirit for every salutary purpose. And, there being constant danger of excess, the effort ought to be, by force of public opinion, to mitigate and assuage it. A fire not to be quenched, it demands a uniform vigilance to prevent its bursting into a flame, lest, instead of warming, it should consume.

- George Washington


Hamilton called them “the most fatal disease”
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How To Read the Constitution - pickle MU - 12/8 08:21:13
     RE: How To Read the Constitution - 90Tiger STL - 12/8 09:37:11
          OTOH, Roger never saw two political parties who were - GA Tiger MU - 12/8 10:23:23
               gat, you may be the least knowledgeable person on this - 90Tiger STL - 12/8 10:44:49
                    Really. Then you must mean he HAD seen that. - GA Tiger MU - 12/8 12:39:21
                    he's read quite a bit on the topic (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 12/8 11:24:47
                    he is one (nm) - pickle MU - 12/8 10:47:49
               do you not know anything about England and its factions, - pickle MU - 12/8 10:40:14
               RE: OTOH, Roger never saw two political parties who were - pickle MU - 12/8 10:38:37
                    Good quote by Adams. But how ironic that your own - GA Tiger MU - 12/8 12:12:25
               Federalists vs. Anti-federalists? (nm) - ummmm MU - 12/8 10:27:21
                    GAT personally knew Hamilton (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 12/8 10:34:22
                    lol (nm) - pickle MU - 12/8 10:31:12
     If the phrase "general welfare" was intended to apply - GA Tiger MU - 12/8 08:39:03
          straight from the article in my post - pickle MU - 12/8 08:57:44
               I think what GAT is saying is: "who cares what the writers - ummmm MU - 12/8 09:09:47
                    that's precisely what he means (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/8 09:38:29
          Yeah, in 2019, when you have to lower your voice in public - ummmm MU - 12/8 08:48:16
               I clearly exaggerated, but given my point, at the end of - GA Tiger MU - 12/8 09:01:02
                    Most likely, slavery would have died out as it had done in - ummmm MU - 12/8 09:12:29
                         You familiar with the foundation of Haiti? - MrBlueSky MU - 12/8 09:37:53
                              By the way, which one have you decided to go with first? - ummmm MU - 12/8 09:44:01
                              The US was way ahead of Haiti and Brazil with respect - ummmm MU - 12/8 09:42:57
                              did haiti industrialize in the latter half of the 19th centu - 90Tiger STL - 12/8 09:39:39
                         as well as abolitionist movements and changing views (nm) - pickle MU - 12/8 09:20:24




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