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I don't know. I admit that in the early 2000's I was in the

Posted on: May 3, 2019 at 12:29:39 CT
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"I'm not worried about government surveillance b/c I don't have anything to hide group" and now I'm quite concerned about how easy it is for our government (and corporations) to snoop on me.

The most disturbing part of the FBI/CIA thing, is how flimsly their pretex was for the surveillance and how obviously partisan the sourcing was.
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The shift in narrative from the left has been entertaining - Sal KC - 5/3 12:02:20
     It has never not been legal surveillance and all the contact - raskolnikov MU - 5/3 14:56:40
          Try again. March 9, 2016. You have any clue what means? - North co-co champs MU - 5/3 14:58:41
               Gosh sorry no. That the new code of bad things going down?(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 5/3 15:51:41
     Here's a classic conservative trope - Mormad MU - 5/3 12:16:57
          that's an authoritarian trope. - dangertim MU - 5/3 12:20:10
               I'll concede that - Mormad MU - 5/3 12:23:42
                    I don't know. I admit that in the early 2000's I was in the - dangertim MU - 5/3 12:29:39
                         RE: I don't know. I admit that in the early 2000's I was in the - scan MU - 5/3 14:02:18
                         Hypocrites usually do get concerned when their - JG A - 5/3 12:35:57
                              like the BLM? - dangertim MU - 5/3 12:39:34
                                   I have absolutely no hypocrisy in regards to the BLM - JG A - 5/3 12:43:43
                                   George has no problem with government violating property - TigerMatt STL - 5/3 12:41:18
                                        You have no problem lying - JG A - 5/3 12:42:54
                                             Nice. I wasn't sure how it was going to get worked in - Mormad MU - 5/3 12:43:30
                                                  Well you know, its an obvious response to obvious lying - JG A - 5/3 12:44:38
                                                       Well, that, and it's entirely predictable - Mormad MU - 5/3 12:46:48
                                                            Entirely predictavble - JG A - 5/3 12:49:11
                                                       If JGBushco's a typin then JGBushco's a lyin - Uncle Fester USMC - 5/3 12:46:30
                                                            And yet neither you nor any other singing and dancing - JG A - 5/3 12:47:21
                                                                 lololol (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 5/3 13:00:58
                                                                      perhaps but also - JG A - 5/3 13:07:35
                              irony meter explodes, shearing off JG's mullet(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/3 12:38:55
                                   LOL without lying what am I hypocritical about? - JG A - 5/3 12:46:31
                                        saying you're a conservative and having no - dangertim MU - 5/3 12:54:15
                                             LOL I have poste dozens maybe hundreds of times - JG A - 5/3 13:06:30
          You can do better than that (nm) - Sal KC - 5/3 12:17:12
     Please help me understand. - Badird MU - 5/3 12:14:40
          The irony of your comment is insurmountable. - GA Tiger MU - 5/3 12:52:45
          lol they aren't informants, they are spies - Sal KC - 5/3 12:16:40
               The crux of the argument is that: - Badird MU - 5/3 12:19:12
                    Why wouldn't the FBI just interview him - Sal KC - 5/3 12:20:01
                         Thats the only fair question to ask, IMO. - Badird MU - 5/3 12:22:28
                              This is where the roles get murky for me - Mormad MU - 5/3 12:25:37
                                   Huh? Halper was an FBI informant for 20 yrs. - Badird MU - 5/3 12:27:07
                                        Paid informant is not FBI agent - Mormad MU - 5/3 12:31:38
                                             "some other agency's operative?"(nm) - Badird MU - 5/3 12:33:39
                                                  Sure, CIA, British Intelligence - Mormad MU - 5/3 12:35:13
                                                       It doesn't, and that's why England and Australia - Sal KC - 5/3 12:36:37
                                                       Right, but we dont have any public information suggesting - Badird MU - 5/3 12:36:31
                                                            Well, I guess that depends on whether you believe - Mormad MU - 5/3 12:37:24
                                        It will come out the Turk was not an FBI agent - Sal KC - 5/3 12:28:51
                                             Why would that be a problem? FBI and CIA working together - Badird MU - 5/3 12:34:08
                                                  It changes the angle a lot - Sal KC - 5/3 12:35:16
                                                       Seems to me that international counterintelligence is well - Badird MU - 5/3 12:37:22
                                   The FBI is both (nm) - Sal KC - 5/3 12:26:33
                                        Ok, I was thinking they had domestic jurisdiction - Mormad MU - 5/3 12:32:48
                                             OK that is correct in terms of how they investigate - Sal KC - 5/3 12:36:14
               dumb this down for me - gmmm98 MU - 5/3 12:18:49
                    Sal has no clue - mizzoumurfkc KC - 5/3 12:33:01
                         I literally just explained it - Sal KC - 5/3 12:35:42
                              You do not know the difference between - mizzoumurfkc KC - 5/3 12:38:30
                                   Yeah, but we're comparing "informing" and "spying" - Mormad MU - 5/3 12:40:08
                                        They started an investigation - mizzoumurfkc KC - 5/3 12:44:16
                                             Honestly, I think that's right - Mormad MU - 5/3 12:50:13
                                             Until there is a reason to think otherwise, this seems true. - Badird MU - 5/3 12:47:51
                                                  I agree nm - mizzoumurfkc KC - 5/3 14:36:40
                                   Yeah, this is the thing for me. After an investigation opens - Badird MU - 5/3 12:39:55
                                        Yes...we'll see - mizzoumurfkc KC - 5/3 12:41:21
                                             The Storm......(nm) - Mormad MU - 5/3 12:42:18
                                                  Bring your - mizzoumurfkc KC - 5/3 12:45:04
                                   You need to re-read the question (nm) - Sal KC - 5/3 12:39:47
                    Informants are within the groups - Sal KC - 5/3 12:21:03
               They'd have been ok if they just shut it down there - Mormad MU - 5/3 12:18:39
                    It should never have come to that - Sal KC - 5/3 12:21:31
                         Sure, but what does this have to do with Obama? - Badird MU - 5/3 12:24:23
                              It's his administration - Sal KC - 5/3 12:25:34
                                   Link?(nm) - Badird MU - 5/3 12:26:31
                                        RE: Link?(nm) - Sal KC - 5/3 12:28:19
                                             I guess we will see. I dont think this rabbit hole goes as - Badird MU - 5/3 12:46:15
                    or like Sal said, just called him in for an interview(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/3 12:20:17
     Maybe done before but I didn't see it. - Toger STL - 5/3 12:14:36
     CNN guy this morning says it's all but guaranteed there will - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/3 12:08:42
          So the FBI shouldnt have used an informant to ask Papa about - Badird MU - 5/3 12:17:15
               Honestly you aren't trying to understand, and even if/when - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/3 12:18:36
                    lol what about the Mueller report do you think I dont - Badird MU - 5/3 12:23:01
               The FBI could have just interviewed him (nm) - Sal KC - 5/3 12:18:34
                    lol it's really that simple(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/3 12:19:21
          Russians ran pro Bernie ads. Bernie spent time in Russia. - TigerMatt STL - 5/3 12:09:52
               Russia was pro-Bernie to split the Hillary vote in favor of - Badird MU - 5/3 12:15:53
                    Ummm, No. The Russians were pro Bernie for the exact - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/3 12:39:48
                         Dilly, dilly!(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 5/3 12:49:29
                         Is that why Russia reached out to Bernie supporters and - Badird MU - 5/3 12:43:36
                              Do you struggle with reading comprehension? Bernie and Trump - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/3 13:06:45
                                   That is 100% the opposite of what the Mueller report states(nm) - Badird MU - 5/3 13:36:28
                              RE: Is that why Russia reached out to Bernie supporters and - Badird MU - 5/3 12:45:51
                    JFC the excuses you make up for your "side" (nm) - Sal KC - 5/3 12:16:57
                         Those are facts, but ok.(nm) - Badird MU - 5/3 12:17:48
     It is straight out of 1984's Ministry of Truth.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 5/3 12:08:35




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