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you're correct it doesn't, BUT of course it's been

Posted on: February 21, 2019 at 09:50:54 CT

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interpreted to do so through the 14th and the incorporation doctrine. and yes, I understand that it wasn't a "blanket" incorporation. Also, I'm not suggesting that it's a good interpretation but that's the reality of what we live with.

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Now that the SC has FINALLTY ruled on excessive - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 08:26:27

define "excessive"(nm) - TheShoe STL - 2/21 08:48:24

Anything that constitutes theft and force (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:11:00

In this case in particular, a guys $40,000 SUV was seized - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:10:00

Pardon me while I google my online dictionary. Keep - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 08:49:56

How is it unconstitutional??? (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/21 08:29:58

So pic, a little less concerned about property rights this - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 08:35:08

Asperger's has slipped into overdrive. - Tigrrrr! MU

- 2/21 09:17:21

I’ll ask again: how is it unconstitutional? - pickle MU

- 2/21 08:38:52

Ask the SC, who UNANIMOUSLY - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 08:42:51

Wrong. And for a third time: how is it unconstitutional? (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/21 08:46:17

Well all right then, it is constitutional. Now what?(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 08:48:31

Your words: “(obviously) unconstitutional” - pickle MU

- 2/21 08:49:46

I JUST SAID ITS CONSTITUTIONAL, just so - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 08:52:14

For the fifth time: how is it unconstitutional? (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/21 08:54:40

What the hell...stay awake all night.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 08:55:41

Sixth time now: how is it unconstitutional? (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/21 08:59:56

Hey, remember...I don't answer questions. Why - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 09:06:00

So you’re a liar - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:08:10

It isn't night time GAT.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 2/21 08:56:57

Umm said he liked the decision but it is wrong - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 08:27:48

I said the Bill of Rights does not apply to the states - ummmm MU - 2/21 08:55:46

you're correct it doesn't, BUT of course it's been - blake1771 KC - 2/21 09:50:54

So a state should be able to deny due process - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:00:02

I wouldn't support that. - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:01:27

But if the bill of rights do not apply to states - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:02:06

Yes. States, being independent countries, - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:03:55

This again? - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:04:21

Passports weren't universally required until the 20th - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:07:44

He doesn’t care to know what’s in it - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:09:35

you are incredibly ignorant (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:06:30

Thankfully the Missouri Military branches are defending - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:08:56

This isn’t helping you, you know (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:10:05

I'm going to head down to the Missouri Post office - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:11:05

RE: I'm going to head down to the Missouri Post office - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:14:17

I'm going to hop on Interstate 70 this afternoon where - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:12:44

What point do you think you're making here? (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:15:05

I can't wait for the Missouri House to declare war on - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:20:12

So, what point do you think you're making here? (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:21:13

I'm glad the country of Missouri has all these powers (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:21:40

The states ceded limited and explicit sovereign powers to - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:23:31

But each state is a country. Why would they cede power? - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:24:26

Ok, maybe it isn’t a matter of honesty - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:28:16

Lol, England "recognizing" anything means nothing - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:34:06

It does when you claimed the exact opposite - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:41:14

To form a union of states. Like the EU, for example. - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:27:14

The EU is not a federal government system - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:31:09

It is comprised of sovereign nations - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:38:18

The EU is an example of a federal govt - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:34:18

RE: To form a union of states. Like the EU, for example. - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:28:35

I disagree with pickle's use of that term there (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:29:30

Actually it is inconsistent of me - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:31:18

He doesn’t even know (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:17:14

The federal constitution granted a postal monopoly to the - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:12:15

this is beyond willful ignorance - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:14:55

Yes, the states can make those decisions. - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:03:04

Correct, and state constitutions adopt the federal - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:03:41

Here is the full text of the 14th Amendment, please show me - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:10:42

RE: Here is the full text of the 14th Amendment, please show me - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:11:52

Fail (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:15:20

That doesn't say anything about incorporation of the Bill of - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:13:52

Absolutely it does - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:25:44

Rights are neither privileges nor immunities - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:29:22

"citizens" of the United States - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:28:27

Also, the 14th Amendment (if it was properly ratified) does - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:05:39

There you go. It doesn't mean the Bill of Rights are - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:04:53

That doesn’t make the US constitution - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:04:27

OMG - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:00:29

In state charges or by state law enforcement (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:01:08

Elephant cheese moon - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:03:08

Therefore, you're looking in the wrong place when you - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:01:59

There are historical reasons which I think tend to - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 08:33:42

Oh yeah, I forgot that Abe Lincoln killed hundreds of - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:00:42

And thank goodness he had the guts and sense to - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 09:14:46

Yeah, thank goodness nearly 1 million Americans died. (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:17:25

Here is your being full of **** again - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:16:23

You’re ignorant, GAT. For all the reading you supposedly do - pickle MU

- 2/21 08:39:48

Which may explain one reason for my asking questions. - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 08:44:35

You certainly don’t ask questions to learn - pickle MU

- 2/21 08:48:33

You got 3 out of 4 right. I'm not arrogant. Congrats again. - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 08:54:56

You also lack self-awareness (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/21 08:55:34

Article 6 of the constitution (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 08:34:06

Correct. But the Supreme Court decided to legislate from - TigerMatt STL - 2/21 08:31:23

I understand incorporation - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 08:33:45

It was until the ruling. But that doesn't really get to the - TigerMatt STL - 2/21 08:42:11

There may be a difference in taking a computer and - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 08:47:37

What is the difference? (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/21 08:50:51

That's not true at all. - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 08:44:11

Partially. But also the incorporation doctrine is an - ummmm MU - 2/21 08:58:10

Wrong - pickle MU

- 2/21 08:54:02

Look at the link to Cornell law I provided. It was only - TigerMatt STL - 2/21 08:48:07

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