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It was until the ruling. But that doesn't really get to the

Posted on: February 21, 2019 at 08:42:11 CT

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heart of the issue. Where in the Constitution does it allow the BoR to be enforced upon the states?

The 14th Amendment says "nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law"

Does that mean the state of Missouri can't take my computer if I am suspected of possessing child porn before I am convicted? No.

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Now that the SC has FINALLTY ruled on excessive - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 08:26:27

define "excessive"(nm) - TheShoe STL - 2/21 08:48:24

Anything that constitutes theft and force (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:11:00

In this case in particular, a guys $40,000 SUV was seized - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:10:00

Pardon me while I google my online dictionary. Keep - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 08:49:56

How is it unconstitutional??? (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/21 08:29:58

So pic, a little less concerned about property rights this - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 08:35:08

Asperger's has slipped into overdrive. - Tigrrrr! MU

- 2/21 09:17:21

I’ll ask again: how is it unconstitutional? - pickle MU

- 2/21 08:38:52

Ask the SC, who UNANIMOUSLY - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 08:42:51

Wrong. And for a third time: how is it unconstitutional? (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/21 08:46:17

Well all right then, it is constitutional. Now what?(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 08:48:31

Your words: “(obviously) unconstitutional” - pickle MU

- 2/21 08:49:46

I JUST SAID ITS CONSTITUTIONAL, just so - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 08:52:14

For the fifth time: how is it unconstitutional? (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/21 08:54:40

What the hell...stay awake all night.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 08:55:41

Sixth time now: how is it unconstitutional? (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/21 08:59:56

Hey, remember...I don't answer questions. Why - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 09:06:00

So you’re a liar - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:08:10

It isn't night time GAT.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 2/21 08:56:57

Umm said he liked the decision but it is wrong - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 08:27:48

I said the Bill of Rights does not apply to the states - ummmm MU - 2/21 08:55:46

you're correct it doesn't, BUT of course it's been - blake1771 KC - 2/21 09:50:54

So a state should be able to deny due process - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:00:02

I wouldn't support that. - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:01:27

But if the bill of rights do not apply to states - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:02:06

Yes. States, being independent countries, - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:03:55

This again? - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:04:21

Passports weren't universally required until the 20th - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:07:44

He doesn’t care to know what’s in it - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:09:35

you are incredibly ignorant (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:06:30

Thankfully the Missouri Military branches are defending - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:08:56

This isn’t helping you, you know (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:10:05

I'm going to head down to the Missouri Post office - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:11:05

RE: I'm going to head down to the Missouri Post office - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:14:17

I'm going to hop on Interstate 70 this afternoon where - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:12:44

What point do you think you're making here? (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:15:05

I can't wait for the Missouri House to declare war on - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:20:12

So, what point do you think you're making here? (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:21:13

I'm glad the country of Missouri has all these powers (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:21:40

The states ceded limited and explicit sovereign powers to - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:23:31

But each state is a country. Why would they cede power? - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:24:26

Ok, maybe it isn’t a matter of honesty - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:28:16

Lol, England "recognizing" anything means nothing - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:34:06

It does when you claimed the exact opposite - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:41:14

To form a union of states. Like the EU, for example. - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:27:14

The EU is not a federal government system - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:31:09

It is comprised of sovereign nations - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:38:18

The EU is an example of a federal govt - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:34:18

RE: To form a union of states. Like the EU, for example. - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:28:35

I disagree with pickle's use of that term there (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:29:30

Actually it is inconsistent of me - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:31:18

He doesn’t even know (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:17:14

The federal constitution granted a postal monopoly to the - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:12:15

this is beyond willful ignorance - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:14:55

Yes, the states can make those decisions. - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:03:04

Correct, and state constitutions adopt the federal - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:03:41

Here is the full text of the 14th Amendment, please show me - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:10:42

RE: Here is the full text of the 14th Amendment, please show me - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:11:52

Fail (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:15:20

That doesn't say anything about incorporation of the Bill of - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:13:52

Absolutely it does - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:25:44

Rights are neither privileges nor immunities - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:29:22

"citizens" of the United States - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:28:27

Also, the 14th Amendment (if it was properly ratified) does - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:05:39

There you go. It doesn't mean the Bill of Rights are - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:04:53

That doesn’t make the US constitution - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:04:27

OMG - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:00:29

In state charges or by state law enforcement (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:01:08

Elephant cheese moon - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:03:08

Therefore, you're looking in the wrong place when you - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:01:59

There are historical reasons which I think tend to - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 08:33:42

Oh yeah, I forgot that Abe Lincoln killed hundreds of - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:00:42

And thank goodness he had the guts and sense to - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 09:14:46

Yeah, thank goodness nearly 1 million Americans died. (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:17:25

Here is your being full of **** again - pickle MU

- 2/21 09:16:23

You’re ignorant, GAT. For all the reading you supposedly do - pickle MU

- 2/21 08:39:48

Which may explain one reason for my asking questions. - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 08:44:35

You certainly don’t ask questions to learn - pickle MU

- 2/21 08:48:33

You got 3 out of 4 right. I'm not arrogant. Congrats again. - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 08:54:56

You also lack self-awareness (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/21 08:55:34

Article 6 of the constitution (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 08:34:06

Correct. But the Supreme Court decided to legislate from - TigerMatt STL - 2/21 08:31:23

I understand incorporation - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 08:33:45

It was until the ruling. But that doesn't really get to the - TigerMatt STL - 2/21 08:42:11

There may be a difference in taking a computer and - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 08:47:37

What is the difference? (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/21 08:50:51

That's not true at all. - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 08:44:11

Partially. But also the incorporation doctrine is an - ummmm MU - 2/21 08:58:10

Wrong - pickle MU

- 2/21 08:54:02

Look at the link to Cornell law I provided. It was only - TigerMatt STL - 2/21 08:48:07

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