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I was demonstrating an example where there are victims

Posted on: January 10, 2019 at 14:37:45 CT
ummmm MU
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but something which, I would hope, you'd agree wouldn't call for criminal penalties.

That's not a red herring in the context of this discussion.

Edited by ummmm at 14:38:06 on 01/10/19
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Revenge porn law a la Eric Greitens already - MrBlueSky MU - 1/10 14:02:07
     Holy fvck. I just looked at the article. I know him - TigerMatt STL - 1/10 15:06:24
          Is she the one with the restraining order?(nm) - Mormad MU - 1/10 15:08:20
               Can't tell yet. I hadn't heard anything about a restraining - TigerMatt STL - 1/10 15:13:32
                    He is works with a high school classmate of mine too - TigerMatt STL - 1/10 15:17:09
     tell me how that relates to Greitens(nm) - dangertim MU - 1/10 14:12:59
          The law was passed in Missouri immediately following - MrBlueSky MU - 1/10 14:15:57
               so it relates to him because he signed it. got it(nm) - dangertim MU - 1/10 14:22:14
                    No...the bill was proposed as a result of the situation with - MrBlueSky MU - 1/10 14:22:47
                         the situation where there was no revenge porn?(nm) - dangertim MU - 1/10 14:23:25
                              Technically true - Mormad MU - 1/10 14:27:29
                                   so if the law was passed 2 years prior, it still would have - dangertim MU - 1/10 14:29:04
                                        I guess it depends on what he means by "a la Greitens" - Mormad MU - 1/10 14:32:03
                                             i think threatening to transmit the pics is a violation - gmmm98 MU - 1/10 14:39:47
                                             UnderprivilegedText(nm) - dangertim MU - 1/10 14:35:08
                                                  That seems to target the poors.... - Mormad MU - 1/10 14:37:56
                                                       please leave cnk out of this(nm) - dangertim MU - 1/10 14:39:32
                                                            yeah!(nm) - cnk ATL - 1/10 14:51:38
     Bad law.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/10 14:05:29
          Should there be no penalty for sharing - MrBlueSky MU - 1/10 14:08:02
               If you send nudes, you should always weigh in that others - TigerMatt STL - 1/10 14:30:29
                    Greitens, and my example below - MrBlueSky MU - 1/10 14:31:09
                         lol, and? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/10 14:50:00
                         So? No physical harm or property damage was done. It - TigerMatt STL - 1/10 14:32:36
                              So there is never a victim unless it's physical harm? - MrBlueSky MU - 1/10 14:35:01
                                   Is it criminal if I tell you a secret and you share that wit - TigerMatt STL - 1/10 14:38:14
                                        Buddy Code Violation right there, TigerM - Mormad MU - 1/10 14:40:04
                                   Cutting in line creates a victim - ummmm MU - 1/10 14:35:57
                                        For someone who loves to call out red herrings - MrBlueSky MU - 1/10 14:36:41
                                             your lack of understanding of fallacies and logic is - 90Tiger MU - 1/10 14:50:41
                                             What if I am cheating on my wife. I send a screenshot of - TigerMatt STL - 1/10 14:42:33
                                                  So intent based? - Mormad MU - 1/10 14:45:10
                                                       are you lqf2b8's best man?(nm) - dangertim MU - 1/10 14:52:25
                                                       The action is the same. Non-consensual sharing of something - TigerMatt STL - 1/10 14:48:12
                                                            Apparently, it can be now - Mormad MU - 1/10 14:51:11
                                                                 No doubt the guy is a d-bag. But let's not throw around the - ummmm MU - 1/10 15:08:59
                                                                 the discussion isn't about whether he's a d-bag (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/10 14:54:46
                                                                      Armchair jailing of people is another really bad part of - ummmm MU - 1/10 15:12:01
                                                                           How has he been armchair jailed? - Mormad MU - 1/10 15:18:03
                                                                                When people sit around and go: - ummmm MU - 1/10 15:22:13
                                                  Again...a conversation between lovers - MrBlueSky MU - 1/10 14:43:26
                                                       Why? It is the same principle. (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/10 14:46:15
                                                            Disagree (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 1/10 14:47:42
                                                                 Lol, why? gods below you're daft (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/10 14:51:09
                                                       You're not that far off from that. - ummmm MU - 1/10 14:46:00
                                                            A naked photo is not the same as a text conversation - MrBlueSky MU - 1/10 14:47:35
                                                                 And if you publically shared a text I sent you that I am gay - TigerMatt STL - 1/10 14:50:07
                                                                 More arbitrariness. By the way, what kind of criminal - ummmm MU - 1/10 14:49:50
                                                                      This law is specifically written to address non-consensual - MrBlueSky MU - 1/10 14:53:15
                                                                           What if it's "art"? - Mormad MU - 1/10 14:55:20
                                                                                What if I am in the picture and Photoshop her face blurry - TigerMatt STL - 1/10 15:00:17
                                                                                     Hmmm, I'd surmise that you're ok in that situation - Mormad MU - 1/10 15:03:15
                                                                           Do you think it should call for jail time? (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/10 14:53:44
                                                                 what if mistress said "tonight" with a nude selfie in the - dangertim MU - 1/10 14:48:34
                                             I was demonstrating an example where there are victims - ummmm MU - 1/10 14:37:45
                                                  Cutting in line is far different from sharing personal - MrBlueSky MU - 1/10 14:41:53
                                                       he's trying to get you to understand that you can't - 90Tiger MU - 1/10 14:52:37
                                                       The problem is the arbitrariness to lines - ummmm MU - 1/10 14:45:03
               Probably not a criminal penalty - ummmm MU - 1/10 14:24:55
                    An individual took naked photos of a significant other - MrBlueSky MU - 1/10 14:28:08
                         No criminal penalty. Invasion of privacy, possibly. - ummmm MU - 1/10 14:33:12
                         aren't there already invasion of privacy laws?(nm) - dangertim MU - 1/10 14:29:52
                              The specific law here speaks to the non-consensual - MrBlueSky MU - 1/10 14:30:31
                                   Otherwise it's just pron(nm) - Mormad MU - 1/10 14:33:21
                                   was the current invasion of privacy law insufficient to - dangertim MU - 1/10 14:32:44
                                        it's like "hate crime" - a law exists against the infringeme - 90Tiger MU - 1/10 14:54:16
               what if somebody said that somebody said that they have - dangertim MU - 1/10 14:13:38




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