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Posted on: December 25, 2018 at 19:03:12 CT
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here jesus' existence is called into question because there is no evidence. Applying the first definition "something which shows that something else exists or is true"

The Bible does not show that jesus existed or that the stories in it are true anymore than Frankenstein shows that a monster named Adam was brought to life from the dead and chased its creator across the arctic. It doesn't meet a single one of your definitions It's begging the question.
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An often misunderstood fact about Christ being born in - MizzouTigerz MU - 12/25 11:09:51
     They went to Bethleham for a census - Spanky KU - 12/25 12:03:49
          You're right, yet the main point stands. They weren't poor, - MizzouTigerz MU - 12/25 12:28:26
               Yep... he had the money, but there was no room at the Inn - Spanky KU - 12/25 12:34:48
                    You were right to point out my error. - MizzouTigerz MU - 12/25 18:08:57
                         Nah.. it was a Beaker move - Spanky KU - 12/25 18:24:05
     there's no evidence they existed - pickle MU - 12/25 11:54:02
          RE: there's no evidence they existed - SideshowBob MU - 12/25 12:43:36
               The Bible isn't evidence at all - pickle MU - 12/25 13:04:51
                    RE: The Bible isn't evidence at all - SideshowBob MU - 12/25 13:20:08
                         it's not evidence that jesus existed (nm) - pickle MU - 12/25 13:46:46
                              RE: it's not evidence that jesus existed (nm) - SideshowBob MU - 12/25 13:53:25
                                   None of those definitions fit - pickle MU - 12/25 14:05:24
                                        RE: None of those definitions fit - SideshowBob MU - 12/25 14:16:34
                                             They don't - pickle MU - 12/25 15:39:29
                                                  RE: They don't - SideshowBob MU - 12/25 18:37:56
                                                       Begging the question - pickle MU - 12/25 19:03:12
                                                            RE: Begging the question - SideshowBob MU - 12/26 08:03:10
                                                                 no one has changed the meaning of words - pickle MU - 12/26 08:51:45
                         Is a Greek/Classical Studies textbook evidence - MrBlueSky MU - 12/25 13:38:14
                              RE: Is a Greek/Classical Studies textbook evidence - SideshowBob MU - 12/25 13:50:19
                                   I believe that the earth is actually a deity - MrBlueSky MU - 12/25 14:16:10
                                        RE: I believe that the earth is actually a deity - SideshowBob MU - 12/25 14:24:35
                                             There are absolutely people with this belief system. (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/25 14:28:20
                                                  RE: There are absolutely people with this belief system. (nm) - SideshowBob MU - 12/25 15:05:10
                                   you're missing the point (nm) - pickle MU - 12/25 14:07:08
                                        RE: you're missing the point (nm) - SideshowBob MU - 12/25 14:11:32
                                             the point being that just because a character - pickle MU - 12/25 15:40:49
                                                  RE: the point being that just because a character - SideshowBob MU - 12/25 18:40:21
                                                       oh, boy. "asserts"? holy cow (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/25 20:05:55
                                                       lol no (nm) - pickle MU - 12/25 19:44:19
               and there are other texts from that time that corroborate - Spanky KU - 12/25 12:56:42
                    there aren't (nm) - pickle MU - 12/25 13:05:16
          So sad for you. - Tigrrrr! MU - 12/25 11:56:12
               He doesn't understand proof. - MizzouTigerz MU - 12/25 12:32:34
                    there isn't any (nm) - pickle MU - 12/25 12:43:16
                         Wrong again, pickle - Spanky KU - 12/25 13:27:31
                              Josephus is not contemporary - pickle MU - 12/25 13:48:39
                                   RE: Josephus is not contemporary - MizzouTigerz MU - 12/25 19:31:52
                                        that's not evidence - pickle MU - 12/25 19:45:17
                                             How do you know that? - MizzouTigerz MU - 12/25 19:48:10
                                                  for the reasons i’ve already stated. - pickle MU - 12/25 21:06:50
                                                       You have zero eyewitnesses to you version. - MizzouTigerz MU - 12/25 21:52:46
                                                            There are no eyewitness writings - pickle MU - 12/26 04:43:21
                                                                 Revelation Chapter 1 'I, John': A first person eyewitness - MizzouTigerz MU - 12/26 06:44:32
                                                                      Sorry, but no. That's ridiculous (nm) - pickle MU - 12/26 07:44:32
                                                                           You are so intellectually dishonest. Jude, the brother of - MizzouTigerz MU - 12/26 11:44:22
                                                                                There's nothing dishonest about it - pickle MU - 12/26 12:11:19
                                                            Heaven's Gate followers would not have killed themselves if - TigerMatt MU - 12/25 22:05:44
                                                                 A small group of delusional people who violated a crystal - MizzouTigerz MU - 12/25 22:21:09
                                                                      Oh boy (nm) - pickle MU - 12/26 04:44:02
                                   It actually is evidence - Spanky KU - 12/25 17:06:43
                                        It isn't (nm) - pickle MU - 12/25 19:45:42
                                             It actually is - Spanky KU - 12/25 19:57:06
                                                  it isn’t. there is neither evidence nor proof (nm) - pickle MU - 12/25 21:10:02
                              Wow, hadn't read that, good stuff - johncoffey MU - 12/25 13:44:28
                                   there is no scientific evidence (nm) - pickle MU - 12/25 13:49:02
                                        It's like talking to a wall(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 12/25 13:59:33
               nothing sad about it. they may have existed - pickle MU - 12/25 11:59:43
     Proof that the Jesus fam supported taxes. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 12/25 11:11:43
          "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's " (nm) - DoltfromSTL MU - 12/25 11:17:58
               Jesus knew the Pharisees were trying to get him to - TigerMatt MU - 12/25 12:26:48
                    RE: Jesus knew the Pharisees were trying to get him to - SideshowBob MU - 12/25 12:55:39
               Did Caesar earn the money? If not it is not Caesar's.(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 12/25 12:20:35
               It doesn't belong to Caesar - ummmm MU - 12/25 11:27:26
                    Since you are choosing to miss the point and quibble might I - DHighlander KC - 12/25 11:32:16
                         Lol no. read The Theory of Money and Credit by Mises (nm) - pickle MU - 12/25 11:55:05
                         The Federal Reserve issues currency, not the US Treasury.(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 12/25 11:52:45
                              Are you suggesting the Federal Reserve is NOT part of the - DHighlander KC - 12/25 12:40:39
                                   It ain't (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/25 14:22:46
                                   lmfao. it still cracks me up that you're a teacher (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/25 14:10:53
                                   Geez. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 12/25 12:47:18
                                        and this guy is a teacher (nm) - pickle MU - 12/25 13:05:37
                                             Read and educate yourself. - DHighlander KC - 12/25 14:03:01
                                                  Can the President order the Fed to raise or lower - TigerMatt MU - 12/25 14:27:40
                                                  It is not part of the federal government (nm) - pickle MU - 12/25 14:06:18
                                   The Federal Reserve is not part of the federal government - pickle MU - 12/25 12:43:53
                         US currency isn't backed by anything. - ummmm MU - 12/25 11:43:58
                              It has value because the US treasury says it has value. - DHighlander KC - 12/25 12:37:03
                                   Yes. There have been whole threads on that misunderstood - ummmm MU - 12/25 13:18:28
                                   No - pickle MU - 12/25 12:44:40
               Render unto Trump that which is Trump's. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 12/25 11:19:57
                    Jesus wants us to pay Caeser so Caeser can bomb kids - TigerMatt MU - 12/25 11:53:54




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