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first of all. that's what Kmawv8 was quoting.

Posted on: November 27, 2018 at 12:01:59 CT
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second of all, you were posting from this link
https://www.angieslist.com/articles/what-rambler-or-ranch-house.htm

and now I see why you didn't give the link, because the section you skipped

"anch style homes are one-story houses with an open and casual layout. The shape of the house is either rectangular or an "L" or "U" shape.

The houses have low-pitched roofs and extended eaves. They also usually have an attached garage and a large picture window facing the street.

Other typical features include post and beam ceilings and sliding glass doors.

Many ranch homes (also called ramblers or California ranches) are built on a concrete slab, though some have a basement or crawl space. Ranch homes built in the 1950s and 1960s averaged 1,300 square feet, and commonly had three bedrooms and one bathroom. Ranches built after the 1970s are typically larger.

You can find ramblers everywhere throughout the U.S., although they are less prevalent on the East Coast."
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One advantage of having a true ranch house is no need for - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:15:22
     and still very true even though it really bothers phrejd - hefeweizen MU - 2/29 15:04:43
     RE: One advantage of having a true ranch house is no need for - meatiger MU - 11/27 12:18:13
          Answered below(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:31:37
          because the poors can't afford them... - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:22:11
               and most gutters empty - meatiger MU - 11/27 12:27:10
                    Most gutters have splash blocks or extensions to channel - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:34:02
                         most gutters empty into the bushes - meatiger MU - 11/27 12:56:19
                              Lol, houses with water in the basement do. I agree(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 13:09:05
                              lol wut?(nm) - dangertim MU - 11/27 13:02:59
     i did not realize the characterization of ranch homes - gmmm98 MU - 11/27 11:36:08
     "true ranch" v. "raised ranch"? no. both are ranches, one - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 11:24:00
          The true definition of a ranch includes "single story". - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 11:30:36
               a raised ranch is still a ranch, as sour cream and onion - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 12:59:57
               Correct(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:31:28
                    Although now I'm reading conflicting reports that a basement - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 11:33:12
                         of course it is. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 13:00:13
                         Right. If it has a full basement the length of the house it - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:35:39
                              show us one link that supports this(nm) - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:37:25
                                   RE: show us one link that supports this(nm) - colonel angus beef KC - 11/27 12:09:42
                                        need to put that ranch on some ROMAINE for reino(nm) - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:17:21
                                             RE: need to put that ranch on some ROMAINE for reino(nm) - colonel angus beef KC - 11/27 12:24:20
                                        thank you. I don't know why how hard that is for Reino(nm) - dangertim MU - 11/27 12:12:51
                                             i do good research on topics about stuff. - colonel angus beef KC - 11/27 12:24:36
                                   RE: show us one link that supports this(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:39:46
                                        a.) not a link. B.) there are thousands of homes that - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:41:47
                                             As my definition describes. (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:42:38
                                        Not only do you not know what a ranch style house is... - tigerdb MU - 11/27 11:41:02
                                             RE: Not only do you not know what a ranch style house is... - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:41:50
                                                  is the fact that it doesn't have a basement written in - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:42:51
                                                       If it had a basement it wouldn't be one story now would it?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:43:32
                                                            the definition of a split level that you call a raised ranch - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:48:53
                                                                 Yes (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 13:01:15
                                                                 Cant be a split level and a 1 story at the same time. One - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:50:02
                                                                      so the definition you copied and pasted is wrong?(nm) - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:51:30
                                                                           The reason Reino struggles with this because where he comes - tigerdb MU - 11/27 11:52:45
                                                                           No. A true ranch in one story on a slab. No stairs. (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:52:39
                                                                                It says nothing about no stairs. It says single story - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 11:56:15
                                                                                     False. If it has stairs it is no longer a true ranch(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:58:47
                                                                                          no, reino (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 13:01:38
                                                                                               Yes, 90T. A true ranch is on a slab. (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 13:10:13
                                                                                                    lol, no, reino (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 13:36:58
                                                                                          False - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 11:59:28
                                                                                               But not a true ranch or CA ranch. (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:01:10
                                                                                                    Yes they are. - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 12:02:19
                                                                                                         Single story, no basement. Lol. Says it right there you - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:03:39
                                                                                                              lol, I'm stubborn, huh? - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 12:09:59
                                                                                                                   There should be no argument. A true ranch is on a slab, one - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:11:26
                                                                                                                        give me ONE source that says that(nm) - dangertim MU - 11/27 12:13:19
                                                                                                                        yet you have not been able to provide a link that backs that - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 12:12:59
                                                                                                                             what reino refers to as "true ranch" is actually the - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:16:22
                                                                                                              Basements aren't "stories"...many 2 stories have basements - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:08:06
                                                                                                                   You seem to not accept the difference between a true - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:16:22
                                                                                                                        no, reino (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 13:02:18
                                                                                this should be simple. Give one link that says that. - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:54:11
                                                                                     Nothing I posted contradicts anything I've said. This - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:57:43
                                                                                          first of all. that's what Kmawv8 was quoting. - dangertim MU - 11/27 12:01:59
                                                                                          Yep - you cleared that one up!! - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:01:19
                                                                                          You need to see my link for what is considered a story. - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 12:00:52
                                                                                               Two types of ranches. Period. Some of you are arguing just - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:02:31
                                                                                                    all you have to do is show a link that says "a true ranch is - dangertim MU - 11/27 12:04:22
                                                                                                         It is also known as a CA ranch. True ranch is used in the - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:10:06
                                                                                                              The basement issue is a southern thing - it has no bearing - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:15:02
                                                                                                              So no link exists to back your point. got it. (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 12:11:58
                                                                                                                   This may help you. - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:29:52
                                                                                                                        lmao. Defining features of a ranch home - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 12:38:22
                                                                                                                             by now, you would think he could have found ONE source that - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:42:48
                                                                                                                             I never said all ranches had no basements. I said a true - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:41:03
                                                                                                                        Yeah, it certainly does... - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:35:55
                                                                                                                             Lol, that describes a ranch subset. JFC. It clearly defines - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:42:51
                                                                                                                                  It doesn't identify a "true ranch" subset. The raised - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:45:21
                                                                                                                                       Correct, it starts with the true ranch. On a slab, one level - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:49:26
                                                                                                                                            OFTEN on a slab. - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 13:25:21
                                                                                                                                            Since you don't comprehend housing styles, I'd suggest - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:59:34
                                                                                                                                                 Just ignore my link. Lol(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 13:11:16
                                                                                                                   the definition was written on the stars. We are without - dangertim MU - 11/27 12:14:13
                                                                                               No - his link covers the issue.. - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:02:17
                                                                                                    That just says that a "ranch style house" with a basement - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 12:04:08
                                                                                                         it's a bi-level house, but is classified as a RANCH STYLE.(nm) - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:06:21
                                                            the old raised ranch style has the house "raised" and - tigerdb MU - 11/27 11:47:35
                                                                 Right, a raised ranch. Not a true ranch. (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:49:01
                                                                      No, simply a "ranch" - there is no such thing as a "true - tigerdb MU - 11/27 11:59:02
                                                                           Is that what you are hung up on? Lol. Does CA ranch make - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:00:33
                                                                                I can assure you that my Aunt's CA style ranch, located in - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:09:26
                                                                                     Then it isnt a true ranch. (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:19:00
                                                                                          No - as I said, it's a California ranch....there is no such - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:19:55
                                                                                               Sure there is. They are on a slab. Can ranches have a - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:23:22
                                                                                                    Wrong again, Romaine boy(nm) - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:31:31
                                                                                                         RE: Wrong again, Romaine boy(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:32:11
                                                                                                              RE: "full basement" (per your link).(nm) - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:39:19
                              lol(nm) - tigerdb MU - 11/27 11:37:08
                              No - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 11:36:57
                         one vote for giving hefe any hope of being - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:35:34
          and I'm pretty sure a "raised ranch" always has some of the - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:25:26
               You are describing a front to back split(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:26:25
                    a split is where the upper "living" area is split - Joeboo MU - 11/27 11:29:17
                         I know(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:31:03
                    no. there are no stairs going into the main level. You walk - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:28:08
                         Agreed, the stairs make it "raised"...a ranch house can - tigerdb MU - 11/27 11:30:04
                         yes. A Ranch is any home where you walk in on the main level - Joeboo MU - 11/27 11:29:59
                              There are two types of ranches. True and raised(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:32:02
                                   correct. But the basement isn't the difference, the entry is - Joeboo MU - 11/27 11:53:39
                         Then that is a raised ranch. Like I said. Full basement. (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:29:46
          False. (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:24:31
     I would never own a house with gutters again - Eggs MU - 11/27 11:22:53
          The key is "no trees close to the house"... - tigerdb MU - 11/27 11:38:49
          Before we moved into this house I thought - mizzou541 MU - 11/27 11:28:31
               Add those dreaded gumballs to them - Eggs MU - 11/27 11:29:53
     best thing about doing a gemini is dont have to use condoms. - colonel angus beef KC - 11/27 11:22:08
     the only ranches I've seen that don't have gutters at all - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:18:21
          that's one of the first things I look for when I inspect a - Joeboo MU - 11/27 11:21:04
               what if they offer a bj? Will you overlook the gutters?(nm) - NWMizzouFan MU - 11/27 11:23:54
     i'm missing something - what about a ranch house implies - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 11:16:16
          I'm confused as well (nm) - Sal KC - 11/27 11:21:36
               I explained it below(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:22:37
                    you just used inaccurate terminology in your OP (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 11:24:33
                         Nope(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:26:45
          No basement to get water in it. That is why houses have - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:18:39
               You'd still have wood rot on the fascia boards(nm) - tigerNkc MU - 11/27 12:22:57
               Most gutters empty - meatiger MU - 11/27 12:22:48
               so to be a true ranch, it has to be on a slab? - Joeboo MU - 11/27 11:19:44
                    Yes. True ranch is on a slab. No basement. If it has a full - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:21:53
                         I usually use the term - Joeboo MU - 11/27 11:23:59
                              Atrium splits, front to back splits, raised ranch...all - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:25:47
                                   true, but a raised ranch isnt defined by the basement - Joeboo MU - 11/27 11:28:06
                                        A true ranch by definition doesn't have a basement. One - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:34:30
                                             A true ranch can have a basement that's not finished - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 11:35:31
                                                  No, that would be a raised ranch. True ranch is only - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:46:37
                                                       No. Not if there aren't stairs to get to the living area - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 11:54:08
                         I declare shenanigans(nm) - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:23:30
                              Look it up. I'm not responsible for your ignorance (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:24:11
                                   RE: Look it up. I'm not responsible for your ignorance (nm) - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:26:50
                                        Yes, I described a raised ranch. Full basement, regardless - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:28:30
                                             what kind of construction is this - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:30:20
               I've seen slabs that almost seemed undercut by the amount - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:19:24
                    That's why most ranch houses, in the south especially, have - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:21:02
          I'm confused too(nm) - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:18:34




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