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that's one of the first things I look for when I inspect a

Posted on: November 27, 2018 at 11:21:04 CT
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property that I'm going to insure. Plants growing in the gutters. Sign that the homeowner really isn't upkeeping their home whatsoever. If you can see that, there's a dozen horrible problems you likely can't see from a brief exterior walk-around.
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One advantage of having a true ranch house is no need for - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:15:22
     and still very true even though it really bothers phrejd - hefeweizen MU - 2/29 15:04:43
     RE: One advantage of having a true ranch house is no need for - meatiger MU - 11/27 12:18:13
          Answered below(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:31:37
          because the poors can't afford them... - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:22:11
               and most gutters empty - meatiger MU - 11/27 12:27:10
                    Most gutters have splash blocks or extensions to channel - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:34:02
                         most gutters empty into the bushes - meatiger MU - 11/27 12:56:19
                              Lol, houses with water in the basement do. I agree(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 13:09:05
                              lol wut?(nm) - dangertim MU - 11/27 13:02:59
     i did not realize the characterization of ranch homes - gmmm98 MU - 11/27 11:36:08
     "true ranch" v. "raised ranch"? no. both are ranches, one - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 11:24:00
          The true definition of a ranch includes "single story". - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 11:30:36
               a raised ranch is still a ranch, as sour cream and onion - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 12:59:57
               Correct(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:31:28
                    Although now I'm reading conflicting reports that a basement - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 11:33:12
                         of course it is. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 13:00:13
                         Right. If it has a full basement the length of the house it - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:35:39
                              show us one link that supports this(nm) - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:37:25
                                   RE: show us one link that supports this(nm) - colonel angus beef KC - 11/27 12:09:42
                                        need to put that ranch on some ROMAINE for reino(nm) - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:17:21
                                             RE: need to put that ranch on some ROMAINE for reino(nm) - colonel angus beef KC - 11/27 12:24:20
                                        thank you. I don't know why how hard that is for Reino(nm) - dangertim MU - 11/27 12:12:51
                                             i do good research on topics about stuff. - colonel angus beef KC - 11/27 12:24:36
                                   RE: show us one link that supports this(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:39:46
                                        a.) not a link. B.) there are thousands of homes that - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:41:47
                                             As my definition describes. (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:42:38
                                        Not only do you not know what a ranch style house is... - tigerdb MU - 11/27 11:41:02
                                             RE: Not only do you not know what a ranch style house is... - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:41:50
                                                  is the fact that it doesn't have a basement written in - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:42:51
                                                       If it had a basement it wouldn't be one story now would it?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:43:32
                                                            the definition of a split level that you call a raised ranch - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:48:53
                                                                 Yes (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 13:01:15
                                                                 Cant be a split level and a 1 story at the same time. One - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:50:02
                                                                      so the definition you copied and pasted is wrong?(nm) - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:51:30
                                                                           The reason Reino struggles with this because where he comes - tigerdb MU - 11/27 11:52:45
                                                                           No. A true ranch in one story on a slab. No stairs. (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:52:39
                                                                                It says nothing about no stairs. It says single story - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 11:56:15
                                                                                     False. If it has stairs it is no longer a true ranch(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:58:47
                                                                                          no, reino (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 13:01:38
                                                                                               Yes, 90T. A true ranch is on a slab. (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 13:10:13
                                                                                                    lol, no, reino (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 13:36:58
                                                                                          False - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 11:59:28
                                                                                               But not a true ranch or CA ranch. (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:01:10
                                                                                                    Yes they are. - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 12:02:19
                                                                                                         Single story, no basement. Lol. Says it right there you - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:03:39
                                                                                                              lol, I'm stubborn, huh? - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 12:09:59
                                                                                                                   There should be no argument. A true ranch is on a slab, one - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:11:26
                                                                                                                        give me ONE source that says that(nm) - dangertim MU - 11/27 12:13:19
                                                                                                                        yet you have not been able to provide a link that backs that - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 12:12:59
                                                                                                                             what reino refers to as "true ranch" is actually the - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:16:22
                                                                                                              Basements aren't "stories"...many 2 stories have basements - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:08:06
                                                                                                                   You seem to not accept the difference between a true - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:16:22
                                                                                                                        no, reino (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 13:02:18
                                                                                this should be simple. Give one link that says that. - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:54:11
                                                                                     Nothing I posted contradicts anything I've said. This - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:57:43
                                                                                          first of all. that's what Kmawv8 was quoting. - dangertim MU - 11/27 12:01:59
                                                                                          Yep - you cleared that one up!! - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:01:19
                                                                                          You need to see my link for what is considered a story. - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 12:00:52
                                                                                               Two types of ranches. Period. Some of you are arguing just - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:02:31
                                                                                                    all you have to do is show a link that says "a true ranch is - dangertim MU - 11/27 12:04:22
                                                                                                         It is also known as a CA ranch. True ranch is used in the - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:10:06
                                                                                                              The basement issue is a southern thing - it has no bearing - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:15:02
                                                                                                              So no link exists to back your point. got it. (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 12:11:58
                                                                                                                   This may help you. - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:29:52
                                                                                                                        lmao. Defining features of a ranch home - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 12:38:22
                                                                                                                             by now, you would think he could have found ONE source that - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:42:48
                                                                                                                             I never said all ranches had no basements. I said a true - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:41:03
                                                                                                                        Yeah, it certainly does... - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:35:55
                                                                                                                             Lol, that describes a ranch subset. JFC. It clearly defines - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:42:51
                                                                                                                                  It doesn't identify a "true ranch" subset. The raised - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:45:21
                                                                                                                                       Correct, it starts with the true ranch. On a slab, one level - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:49:26
                                                                                                                                            OFTEN on a slab. - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 13:25:21
                                                                                                                                            Since you don't comprehend housing styles, I'd suggest - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:59:34
                                                                                                                                                 Just ignore my link. Lol(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 13:11:16
                                                                                                                   the definition was written on the stars. We are without - dangertim MU - 11/27 12:14:13
                                                                                               No - his link covers the issue.. - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:02:17
                                                                                                    That just says that a "ranch style house" with a basement - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 12:04:08
                                                                                                         it's a bi-level house, but is classified as a RANCH STYLE.(nm) - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:06:21
                                                            the old raised ranch style has the house "raised" and - tigerdb MU - 11/27 11:47:35
                                                                 Right, a raised ranch. Not a true ranch. (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:49:01
                                                                      No, simply a "ranch" - there is no such thing as a "true - tigerdb MU - 11/27 11:59:02
                                                                           Is that what you are hung up on? Lol. Does CA ranch make - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:00:33
                                                                                I can assure you that my Aunt's CA style ranch, located in - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:09:26
                                                                                     Then it isnt a true ranch. (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:19:00
                                                                                          No - as I said, it's a California ranch....there is no such - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:19:55
                                                                                               Sure there is. They are on a slab. Can ranches have a - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:23:22
                                                                                                    Wrong again, Romaine boy(nm) - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:31:31
                                                                                                         RE: Wrong again, Romaine boy(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 12:32:11
                                                                                                              RE: "full basement" (per your link).(nm) - tigerdb MU - 11/27 12:39:19
                              lol(nm) - tigerdb MU - 11/27 11:37:08
                              No - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 11:36:57
                         one vote for giving hefe any hope of being - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:35:34
          and I'm pretty sure a "raised ranch" always has some of the - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:25:26
               You are describing a front to back split(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:26:25
                    a split is where the upper "living" area is split - Joeboo MU - 11/27 11:29:17
                         I know(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:31:03
                    no. there are no stairs going into the main level. You walk - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:28:08
                         Agreed, the stairs make it "raised"...a ranch house can - tigerdb MU - 11/27 11:30:04
                         yes. A Ranch is any home where you walk in on the main level - Joeboo MU - 11/27 11:29:59
                              There are two types of ranches. True and raised(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:32:02
                                   correct. But the basement isn't the difference, the entry is - Joeboo MU - 11/27 11:53:39
                         Then that is a raised ranch. Like I said. Full basement. (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:29:46
          False. (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:24:31
     I would never own a house with gutters again - Eggs MU - 11/27 11:22:53
          The key is "no trees close to the house"... - tigerdb MU - 11/27 11:38:49
          Before we moved into this house I thought - mizzou541 MU - 11/27 11:28:31
               Add those dreaded gumballs to them - Eggs MU - 11/27 11:29:53
     best thing about doing a gemini is dont have to use condoms. - colonel angus beef KC - 11/27 11:22:08
     the only ranches I've seen that don't have gutters at all - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:18:21
          that's one of the first things I look for when I inspect a - Joeboo MU - 11/27 11:21:04
               what if they offer a bj? Will you overlook the gutters?(nm) - NWMizzouFan MU - 11/27 11:23:54
     i'm missing something - what about a ranch house implies - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 11:16:16
          I'm confused as well (nm) - Sal KC - 11/27 11:21:36
               I explained it below(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:22:37
                    you just used inaccurate terminology in your OP (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 11:24:33
                         Nope(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:26:45
          No basement to get water in it. That is why houses have - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:18:39
               You'd still have wood rot on the fascia boards(nm) - tigerNkc MU - 11/27 12:22:57
               Most gutters empty - meatiger MU - 11/27 12:22:48
               so to be a true ranch, it has to be on a slab? - Joeboo MU - 11/27 11:19:44
                    Yes. True ranch is on a slab. No basement. If it has a full - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:21:53
                         I usually use the term - Joeboo MU - 11/27 11:23:59
                              Atrium splits, front to back splits, raised ranch...all - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:25:47
                                   true, but a raised ranch isnt defined by the basement - Joeboo MU - 11/27 11:28:06
                                        A true ranch by definition doesn't have a basement. One - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:34:30
                                             A true ranch can have a basement that's not finished - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 11:35:31
                                                  No, that would be a raised ranch. True ranch is only - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:46:37
                                                       No. Not if there aren't stairs to get to the living area - kmawv8 MU - 11/27 11:54:08
                         I declare shenanigans(nm) - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:23:30
                              Look it up. I'm not responsible for your ignorance (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:24:11
                                   RE: Look it up. I'm not responsible for your ignorance (nm) - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:26:50
                                        Yes, I described a raised ranch. Full basement, regardless - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:28:30
                                             what kind of construction is this - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:30:20
               I've seen slabs that almost seemed undercut by the amount - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:19:24
                    That's why most ranch houses, in the south especially, have - hefeweizen MU - 11/27 11:21:02
          I'm confused too(nm) - dangertim MU - 11/27 11:18:34




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