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Posted on: November 13, 2018 at 15:26:25 CT
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Donald Trump is positioning himself to become the first president in 40 years to refuse to release his tax returns in office.
Such a refusal would overturn a precedent maintained by every president since Jimmy Carter -- and extend Trump's refusal to make his returns public during the campaign.

https://money.cnn.com/2017/01/23/news/economy/donald-trump-tax-returns/index.html

As for Truman, he obviously didn't release his tax forms while in office since they go all the way to his death, 1972, long after he left office. The list looks more like something from archives stored in the Truman Library.
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What is the democrat fetish over Drumpf's tax returns? - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/13 14:40:37
     A few reasons - Knucklehead MU - 11/13 15:42:08
          If he is going light on the Russians, it doesn't show. - Coors4bob MU - 11/13 16:59:49
     Jealousy, voyeurism, etc. (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/13 15:38:52
     Why do r's not feel the need to hold trump to his word - playhard NWMSU - 11/13 15:07:38
          Because I don't give a $hit about his taxes - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/13 15:11:34
               You misspelled - mizzoumurfkc KC - 11/13 15:18:07
                    By not releasing them it also looks like he's trying to - playhard NWMSU - 11/13 15:21:42
                         He has shown no favors to anyone. - Coors4bob MU - 11/13 17:00:40
                         post your tax returns for the board to see (nm) - Sal KC - 11/13 15:22:56
                              If he didn't want to release them he shouldn't have - playhard NWMSU - 11/13 15:28:12
                                   Put aside what he said - Sal KC - 11/13 15:33:17
                                        I'd like to know who they owe money to, if someone say owes - playhard NWMSU - 11/13 15:37:25
                                             You eon find that information there(nm) - tman MU - 11/13 17:35:14
                                             No you wouldn't - Sal KC - 11/13 15:38:12
                                                  I would have voted for Rubio or Bush over Hillary - playhard NWMSU - 11/13 15:46:33
                                                       I would have voted for a dead monkey over hillary. - Coors4bob MU - 11/13 17:01:37
                              Is playhard running for president? - mizzoumurfkc KC - 11/13 15:24:09
                                   That shouldn't matter - Sal KC - 11/13 15:25:04
                                        That should matter...that's the issue, Sal - mizzoumurfkc KC - 11/13 15:28:56
                                             sal is hiding behind "it's nobody's business" - playhard NWMSU - 11/13 15:31:37
                                                  it's nobody's business (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/13 17:15:09
                                                  Obviously. And - mizzoumurfkc KC - 11/13 15:37:50
                                                  No I'm not - Sal KC - 11/13 15:32:37
                                                       Fine, then don't promise to release them during the campaign - playhard NWMSU - 11/13 15:34:00
                                                            Those are two separate issues - Sal KC - 11/13 15:35:37
                                             Just b/c other presidents did something - Sal KC - 11/13 15:29:40
                                                  Like going outside in the rain? trump certainly isn't - playhard NWMSU - 11/13 15:32:37
                                                       Std out in the rain the other day(nm) - tman MU - 11/13 15:34:11
                                                            After he was shamed in to it(nm) - playhard NWMSU - 11/13 15:47:14
                                                                 but he did stand outside in it? (nm) - Sal KC - 11/13 15:48:47
                                                                      RE: but he did stand outside in it? (nm) - playhard NWMSU - 11/13 15:49:28
                                                                 Yeah ok. (nm) - tman MU - 11/13 15:47:58
                              first he must promise to do so - JG MU - 11/13 15:24:07
               We get it- you don't give a shiite about America - JG MU - 11/13 15:17:24
                    He tries to justify it below by saying tax fraud isnt wrong. - Badird MU - 11/13 15:19:05
                         I would expect Ragliar to say its Trumps duty to commit - JG MU - 11/13 15:20:46
                         lol I said no such thing, damn you're dumb as hell boy - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/13 15:20:33
                              What Trump did is tax fraud, though. Flail away. (nm) - Badird MU - 11/13 15:21:02
                                   What did he do? (nm) - pickle MU - 11/13 15:26:33
                                        Google it, dildo. (nm) - Badird MU - 11/13 15:27:21
                                             I'm asking you. I want to know your thoughts - pickle MU - 11/13 15:40:39
                                             He wants to hear it from you nimrod - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/13 15:32:11
                                             He's specifically asking you - Sal KC - 11/13 15:28:38
                                                  As I have said numerous times in this thread: - Badird MU - 11/13 15:34:31
                                                       That's not fraud - pickle MU - 11/13 15:41:09
                                                       The article itself said "suspect" - Sal KC - 11/13 15:37:26
                                                            Its clear you havent read it. The details are painstaking. - Badird MU - 11/13 15:39:57
                                                                 I have read it - Sal KC - 11/13 15:41:03
                                                                      The Times pc uses tax records, genius. (nm) - Badird MU - 11/13 15:42:18
                                                                           And because his taxbasis went down that is fraud(nm) - tman MU - 11/13 15:47:00
                                                                                A building doesnt lose 83% of its value in 18 days. (nm) - Badird MU - 11/13 15:49:18
                                                                                     No? Then I am sure the IRS will see this obvious - tman MU - 11/13 15:51:40
                                                                                          The IRS has neither the resources nor inclination to - Badird MU - 11/13 15:55:01
                                                                                               The IRS doesn't have the resources - Sal KC - 11/13 15:57:28
                                                                                                    Or the inclination? What of what of you 1%ers - tman MU - 11/13 17:36:53
                                                                                                    Valuation is not a fight the IRS takes, no matter how - Badird MU - 11/13 16:28:00
                                                                           lol (nm) - Sal KC - 11/13 15:42:59
                                   lol you have no idea what you are talking about do you? - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/13 15:23:04
                                        He doesn't. He has read a talking points t(nm) - tman MU - 11/13 17:37:44
                                        "Gaming the system", aka what Trump did to devalue his - Badird MU - 11/13 15:25:11
                                             That's not tax fraud - pickle MU - 11/13 15:39:58
          I hope no candidate releases them ever again (nm) - Sal KC - 11/13 15:08:33
               So do I. Why would anyone care about someone else's - Ferg MU - 11/13 15:10:19
                    He said he would. - MrBlueSky MU - 11/13 15:13:02
                    it's an odd obsession (nm) - Sal KC - 11/13 15:10:34
                         Holding someone to their word is an odd obsession?(nm) - playhard NWMSU - 11/13 15:21:00
                         If his taxes revealed - MrBlueSky MU - 11/13 15:14:16
                              blatant evasion and fraud? You do realize the IRS has his - Ferg MU - 11/13 15:15:44
                                   With real estate especially - MrBlueSky MU - 11/13 15:16:59
                                        And what information will be gained that the IRS doesnt - tman MU - 11/13 15:19:48
                                        lol so no illegal activity - Sal KC - 11/13 15:19:21
                                             I don't practice tax law - MrBlueSky MU - 11/13 15:21:38
                                   don't try to use logic with them (nm) - Sal KC - 11/13 15:16:50
                                        You are wholly unaware of the practices of the Trump Org - MrBlueSky MU - 11/13 15:17:41
                                             Everybody should avoid taxes to the best - Sal KC - 11/13 15:18:53
                              if there is illegal activity, sure - Sal KC - 11/13 15:15:20
                                   Read the NYT article on Trump's tax evasion. - Badird MU - 11/13 15:16:46
                                        No I dont is the IRS incapable of conducting the - tman MU - 11/13 15:23:33
                                             The NYT's was able to uncover something - Sal KC - 11/13 15:24:45
                                                  Yes. Youre starting to get it. (nm) - Badird MU - 11/13 15:25:45
                                                       lol (nm) - Sal KC - 11/13 15:31:41
                                                       Ah. So the detailed returns that the IRS has in its - tman MU - 11/13 15:31:37
                                                            pretty amazing (nm) - Sal KC - 11/13 15:34:10
                                        What illegal activity did the article prove? (nm) - Sal KC - 11/13 15:18:14
                                             Tax fraud, Sal. - Badird MU - 11/13 15:20:41
                                                  Regardless, Sal wouldn't care - MrBlueSky MU - 11/13 15:22:14
                                                       it did! The lock him up and demand he pay - tman MU - 11/13 15:25:06
                                                       You're making a claim then admit - Sal KC - 11/13 15:23:38
                                                            But it shows tax fraud. Just ask him(nm) - tman MU - 11/13 15:25:47
                                                            I didn't write the article in the NY Times - MrBlueSky MU - 11/13 15:25:25
                                                                 So you have nothing. (nm) - tman MU - 11/13 15:27:05
                                                                      You say that as if it were a sigh of relief. - Badird MU - 11/13 15:28:15
                                                                           So are you saying trump followed the laws as written - tman MU - 11/13 15:33:33
                                                                                Tax fraud is illegal, tman. - Badird MU - 11/13 15:36:19
                                                                                     Maybe the Dems should investigate that fact - tman MU - 11/13 15:39:52
                                                                                          Its moot. All of that happened outside of the statute of lim - Badird MU - 11/13 15:40:59
                                                                                               So he just stopped? Also would dems not want - tman MU - 11/13 15:45:10
                                                                                                    OFC they would. The NYT pc is reason enough to demand his - Badird MU - 11/13 15:48:56
                                                                                                         Why? The IRS has them. They are the experts. - tman MU - 11/13 15:53:33
                                                                                                              Yes, Mueller as well. - Badird MU - 11/13 15:55:36
                                                                                                         PS this will be the last I say on the matter: - Badird MU - 11/13 15:53:03
                                                                                                              Doesn't the IRS employ experts - Sal KC - 11/13 15:56:24
                                                                                                         b/c it was an obvious overreach from Mueller - Sal KC - 11/13 15:52:10
                                                                                                              Whether or not Russia laundered money. - Badird MU - 11/13 15:56:03
                         Promise made, promise broken - JG MU - 11/13 15:12:04
                              Did you beloved Obama keep every one of his promises? - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/13 15:18:21
                                   nope and nope - JG MU - 11/13 15:22:04
     I don't care about Gump's tax return or anyone else's - Ferg MU - 11/13 15:01:26
     The fetish is they're terrified that muler won't find - GA Tiger MU - 11/13 15:00:35
     RE: What is the democrat fetish over Drumpf's tax returns? - catbirdseat MU - 11/13 15:00:25
     they want him to refuse and then imply he evaded taxes. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/13 14:52:10
          The buffoon lied about - mizzoumurfkc KC - 11/13 15:02:03
               Like I said - Alferd Packer MU - 11/13 15:35:21
               RE: The buffoon lied about - MOCO SON MU - 11/13 15:07:06
               What obvious reasons are those? (nm) - Sal KC - 11/13 15:04:50
                    Well, mostly they will show - mizzoumurfkc KC - 11/13 15:11:13
                         I'd hope everybody would pay as little taxes - Sal KC - 11/13 15:13:03
                    You will be waiting for a long time for an answer(nm) - tman MU - 11/13 15:05:39
                         Will it be a longer time than it's been - mizzoumurfkc KC - 11/13 15:13:56
                              About the same and why do you care - tman MU - 11/13 15:17:55
          We know he avoided taxes - raskolnikov MU - 11/13 14:59:47
               You are ignorant (nm) - pickle MU - 11/13 15:42:13
               We all avoid taxes as much as legally possible. - RHAYWORTH MU - 11/13 15:32:40
                    Nothing wrong with that and no one saying otherwise - JG MU - 11/13 15:35:27
                         Not true. NYT is claiming legal deduction by trump is fraud - RHAYWORTH MU - 11/13 15:55:40
               Avoided legally or illegally. That would be what an audit - tman MU - 11/13 15:06:52
                    You are a duck in a barrel son - raskolnikov MU - 11/13 15:23:20
                         There is? Do share this evidence. You should also submit - tman MU - 11/13 15:41:40
                              NYT did an exhaustive report on this - look it up(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 11/13 15:42:22
                                   I read it. They speculate in it by their own admission - tman MU - 11/13 15:49:36
               Learn to read. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/13 15:02:22
          Its not likely he hasn't cheated on his taxes - JG MU - 11/13 14:59:00
               If he did, it is the IRS's job to find it and penalize him, - jmlppx MU - 11/13 15:01:53
                    Like I said - Alferd Packer MU - 11/13 15:04:03
                         Unlike simpletons, such as yourself, - JG MU - 11/13 15:05:25
                              yeah, you have evidence that is not available to the IRS - Ferg MU - 11/13 15:08:34
                              It is likely he cheated. Based on what evidence(nm) - tman MU - 11/13 15:07:51
                                   He lies at every turn - JG MU - 11/13 15:10:03
                                        So you have nothing. You can do better or admit you - tman MU - 11/13 15:12:59
                                             I can only admit I was wrong if he releases his taxes - JG MU - 11/13 15:13:55
                                                  You are purely speculating. You are without any basis - tman MU - 11/13 15:36:15
                                                       I didn't speculate anything except - JG MU - 11/13 15:41:45
     He said he would release them - MrBlueSky MU - 11/13 14:44:01
          What Little Jimmie did doesn't constitute a tradition. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/13 14:59:24
               Every president going back to Truman (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 11/13 15:00:43
                    Nope. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/13 15:05:02
                         You are wrong, as usual - MrBlueSky MU - 11/13 15:06:21
                              That's right. You're wrong... as always. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/13 15:26:25
          RE: He said he would release them - MOCO SON MU - 11/13 14:56:09
     Perhaps when they see all that money fro Russia and - raskolnikov MU - 11/13 14:43:46
     It will provide large roadmaps - JG MU - 11/13 14:43:31
          RE: It will provide large roadmaps - MOCO SON MU - 11/13 14:57:34
               I'll let you know just the very moment - JG MU - 11/13 14:58:26
                    You know enough about tax returns - tman MU - 11/13 15:09:27
                         mainly under sources of income - JG MU - 11/13 15:25:42
                              Really.(nm) - tman MU - 11/13 22:21:20
     Make Bad Orange Man look bad. Make him pay penalty(nm) - dangertim MU - 11/13 14:43:18
          Probably a bigger worry for Trump - MrBlueSky MU - 11/13 14:45:22
               RE: Probably a bigger worry for Trump - MOCO SON MU - 11/13 14:59:33
          People with nothing to hide rarely hide anything. (nm) - Badird MU - 11/13 14:43:47
               So I should just willingly let strangers - Sal KC - 11/13 15:01:26
                    RE: So I should just willingly let strangers - MOCO SON MU - 11/13 15:11:24
                    If you run for POTUS, it would probably be a good idea.(nm) - Badird MU - 11/13 15:02:52
                         Why is it a good idea? - Sal KC - 11/13 15:03:54
                              To prove you arent a human scab, like Trump likely is.(nm) - Badird MU - 11/13 15:04:24
                                   I don't need to see his tax returns to know that(nm) - dangertim MU - 11/13 15:17:13
                                        no kidding (nm) - Sal KC - 11/13 15:20:35
                                   that's p*ss poor reasoning, try again (nm) - Sal KC - 11/13 15:06:06
                                        Not to me and many voters, but feel free to disagree. - Badird MU - 11/13 15:09:36
                                             That is some strange logic (nm) - Sal KC - 11/13 15:10:20
               you're on poor ground here - 90Tiger MU - 11/13 14:59:03
                    I never said privacy wasnt important. - Badird MU - 11/13 15:00:55
                         "he is not a champion of personal rights or privacy" - Sal KC - 11/13 15:07:48
                              You try so hard to connect the dots and fail. - Badird MU - 11/13 15:10:41
                                   So Trump should show he's a champion of privacy - Sal KC - 11/13 15:11:57
                                        lol, you try and fail so hard. - Badird MU - 11/13 15:14:38
                                             I understand it just fine - Sal KC - 11/13 15:16:33
               That why we never saw Obama's college records?(nm) - jmlppx MU - 11/13 14:58:29
               People who guard their privacy - Alferd Packer MU - 11/13 14:56:12
               you call yourself liberal? gtf out of here (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/13 14:50:49
                    I do not call myself a liberal. - Badird MU - 11/13 14:51:40
                         your post above is very Brownshirt-esque, but hey, - 90Tiger MU - 11/13 14:52:52
                              WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH - MrBlueSky MU - 11/13 15:00:30
                              Oh come on. You, again, are hyper-dramatic. - Badird MU - 11/13 14:58:16
                                   Hillary's emails weren't private, they were gvmt business - 90Tiger MU - 11/13 15:00:16
                                        What rights am I dumping, fool? - Badird MU - 11/13 15:02:33
                                             Maybe the right to privacy - MrBlueSky MU - 11/13 15:22:57
                                                  Even so, my demands mean nothing. (nm) - Badird MU - 11/13 15:26:52
               Kind of like only guilty people need a lawyer? - dangertim MU - 11/13 14:46:28
                    lol sure, thats what Im saying. - Badird MU - 11/13 14:50:01
                         You are that stupid (nm) - pickle MU - 11/13 15:44:01
                         Then you're a fool in addition to being immoral and - 90Tiger MU - 11/13 15:00:43
                         wow you are a fool(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/13 14:55:22
               horrible logic and a dangerous way of thinking (nm) - pickle MU - 11/13 14:44:33
     You dont think a majority of the country thinks he should - Badird MU - 11/13 14:43:02
          They are nobody's business (nm) - Sal KC - 11/13 14:55:20
               Agreed, why did Donnie lie about releasing them? - MrBlueSky MU - 11/13 15:08:59
                    no clue, but I hope he doesn't release them (nm) - Sal KC - 11/13 15:11:02
          No I don't give two $hits. Anyone who finds a way out of - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/13 14:51:42
               Hahahaa, as I've stated - MrBlueSky MU - 11/13 14:55:50
                    gaming the system is not tax evasion - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/13 15:01:26
                         Deliberately devaluing properties - MrBlueSky MU - 11/13 15:02:38
                    JFC he just admitted it. (nm) - Badird MU - 11/13 14:58:50
               So you break the law, like Don? - Badird MU - 11/13 14:53:49
                    Gaming the system is not breaking the law(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/13 14:56:44
                         Tax evasion is a crime (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 11/13 14:57:28
          Let's stop with the logical fallacies for a moment - pickle MU - 11/13 14:43:55
               I think people being governed have a right to know whether - Badird MU - 11/13 14:48:19
                    You just contradicted yourself - pickle MU - 11/13 15:44:59
               It's not - MrBlueSky MU - 11/13 14:44:38
                    irrelevant (nm) - pickle MU - 11/13 14:45:05
                         Just another Trump lie, I suppose (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 11/13 14:47:27




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