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Posted on: October 28, 2018 at 14:10:36 CT
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actually a rather interesting discussion. Some of the usual adolescent tripe, but some nuggets of open and honest discussion too.

And it is i believe, an excellent argument for anonymous posting. Who here would be willing to sign his name to the posts made, even though none were overtly hostile or racist?

Virtually all of them could be seen as such and the long arm of PC and social media would punish anyone who spoke frankly in a manner that was not deferential to minorities.

Ivan actually held his own. Which is unusual.

I think 90 summed it up best when he said that ivan drago is living in a reality of his own creation. That i think is true of liberals everywhere. They believe what they believe and they contort the facts to fit into the narrative they have established.

I am a victim because i'm black. See...that proves it, that guy over there just smirked in this direction. Obviously, he doesn't like black people. What other reason could there possibly be? The ten other people in this immediate area, the hot chile pepper he just bit into, the bad news he got in a text message....nah. He hates black people.

(Why would anyone not love obama...?)

I think conservatives do it as well. "Blacks and cracks" all want special privileges and i'm tired of having to bend over backwards to accommodate them.

I posted earlier, rather indelicately perhaps, that all of the racial bean counting breeds resentment on both sides. Whites think they are victims of affirmative action. Blacks think they are victims of oppression that require affirmative action.

Blacks think whites resent blacks solely because of race and the fact that blacks are now allowed to compete equally for college admissions or jobs. Whites think blacks only get where they are because of lower standards and double standards.

My perspective is borne of decades in corporate america and elsewhere. I have seen affirmative action and the problems it has wrought. I have seen first hand the extortion of blacks threatening to "go to the papers" if blacks in my department were not given elevated evaluations. I have seen and worked with marginally qualified blacks elevated to positions where they could not possibly succeed, but propped up and kept for years in situations where they hurt the company and generated the hostility and resentment i referenced earlier.

And yes i've seen white managers say things like, "Oh boy, another no talent black hire. Where will i hide this one?" This without benefit of having met the person. I've heard the Nword and other insensitivities freely said in meetings where no blacks were present.

I can honestly say too, that i have never seen a black person fired or demoted or not given a promotion that was earned, because of race of sex. To the contrary, a competent black person was so valuable as to be mentored, featured and celebrated. And the white managers who did the mentoring were similarly lauded.

The old joke, "No, i HIRED you because you're black. I'm firing you because you're incompetent."

Again to 90s excellent point... How much of what we see or think we see is the product of the reality of our own making?

Maybe we should all, every once in a while, check our reality and see if we made it, or if it made us.

Edited by hokie at 14:14:10 on 10/28/18
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An observation about the board re the race thread. It was - hokie VT - 10/28 14:10:36
     So when you heard this: - DC Jayhawk KU - 10/28 20:03:38
     another question - SwampTiger MU - 10/28 15:51:17
          I'll sign my name to everything I ever said here.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 10/28 18:38:47
               I believe you GAT (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 10/28 18:45:39
     Gripping......... - mizzoumurfkc KC - 10/28 14:39:55
          Please don't tell us WHAT you are gripping. nm - hokie VT - 10/28 14:44:25
               Not his penis.... - Tigrrrr! MU - 10/28 14:46:40
                    LAUGH...you talk about penises - mizzoumurfkc KC - 10/28 15:40:33
                    what is it with you - SwampTiger MU - 10/28 15:39:13
                         He's not the only con here - mizzoumurfkc KC - 10/28 15:44:27
                              Hamburger Mary's - Tigrrrr! MU - 10/28 16:30:58
                                   Sounds like the old Lava room or whatever that place was - Uncle Fester USMC - 10/28 16:56:33
                                        Lava room was a block south of there - mizzoumurfkc KC - 10/28 19:21:51
                                        Dover Fox....had a customer who had a fleet of Town Car - Tigrrrr! MU - 10/28 17:01:09
                                   Go west, derpwad - mizzoumurfkc KC - 10/28 16:49:57
                                        So easy to trigger. - Tigrrrr! MU - 10/28 17:01:56
                                             Mocking you - mizzoumurfkc KC - 10/28 19:03:38
                                                  is he the least self-aware poster here (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 10/28 19:12:03
                                                       OMG - Tigrrrr! MU - 10/28 21:10:24
                                                       He simply couldn't be dumber - mizzoumurfkc KC - 10/28 19:53:20
                    Hungry, Need fake tacos or overpriced BBQ - Uncle Fester USMC - 10/28 15:23:12
     I don't really understand the concept of "checking our - ummmm MU - 10/28 14:26:20
          Been doing that for around 77 years.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 10/28 18:39:56
          This (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 10/28 15:28:28
          Iffin you want good bbq - Penske material MU - 10/28 15:27:01
               Why would i do that ? - Uncle Fester USMC - 10/28 15:35:33
                    When the apocalypse comes you can have whole smoked - Penske material MU - 10/28 15:36:49
               Meant for fester(nm) - Penske material MU - 10/28 15:28:35
          How exactly to you do that in a job interview? You do not - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/28 14:32:45
               Do what? - ummmm MU - 10/28 14:35:04
                    Really? Do you really think you get to know a person in a - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/28 14:43:07
                         Hopefully, for the sake of decency and - mizzoumurfkc KC - 10/28 15:56:51
                         I don't understand what this has to do with my first post - ummmm MU - 10/28 14:46:28
                              I enjoyed your personality/political post - Kim DUKE - 10/28 16:34:27
                                   Thanks. Have I changed? - ummmm MU - 10/28 17:37:42
                                        No. (nm) - DC Jayhawk KU - 10/28 20:05:35
                                        No u have not. Are you still an ESTJ? - Kim DUKE - 10/28 17:44:51
                                             ENTJ, I think. (nm) - ummmm MU - 10/28 17:46:45
                                                  I wrote incorrectly, I remember you and 90tiger are the same - Kim DUKE - 10/28 17:50:40
                                        Has the world changed or have I changed? - Betty the Mechanic MU - 10/28 17:44:24
                              Here is your quote; - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/28 15:00:13
                                   are you proposing you evaluate people you are interviewing - 90Tiger MU - 10/28 15:29:50
                                        Employers tend to focus on one aspect or - Kim DUKE - 10/28 16:27:19
                                        sounds like it - SwampTiger MU - 10/28 15:42:32
                                             He sounds generally like a thick-skulled troglodytic - 90Tiger MU - 10/28 15:56:05
                                                  And you guys are standard progressive idiots who live in - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/28 16:52:33
                                                       RE: And you guys are standard progressive idiots who live in - THEGROVE68 MU - 10/29 07:47:17
                                                       You're really struggling to grasp the point of my first post - ummmm MU - 10/28 17:36:54
                                                       man, you're one dumb sonuvabich if you think ummmm and I - 90Tiger MU - 10/28 17:07:22
                                                            It never ceases to amaze me - ummmm MU - 10/28 17:40:13
                                                                 It's easy to make happen, buddy. Just disagree with - 90Tiger MU - 10/28 18:16:34
                                                                 It's one of my favorite things here (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 10/28 17:57:30
               LOL what? (nm) - Betty the Mechanic MU - 10/28 14:34:59
     Liberals do t care about blacks they simply use them - Penske material MU - 10/28 14:20:57
          I think that is totally true, on the level where the power - hokie VT - 10/28 14:31:59
               Individually liberals are holier than thou - Penske material MU - 10/28 14:51:47




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