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63% do not go to jail over this
Posted on: August 7, 2018 at 13:09:58 CT
Spanky
KU
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My prediction...Manafort will be found guilty
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Spanky
KU
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8/7 11:40:09
don't know..don't care
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meatiger
MU
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8/7 12:16:21
There are 2 trials.
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Silas
MU
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8/7 12:07:44
First concession?
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Toger
STL
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8/7 12:00:14
I think the Gates testimony shows that Manafort knowingly
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Spanky
KU
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8/7 12:10:43
The difficult challenge in showing that Gates was THE
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tigerdb
MU
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8/7 12:14:15
About what I expect. I wonder if
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GA Tiger
MU
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8/7 11:59:41
Likely, Manafort never walks as a free man again,
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raskolnikov
MU
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8/7 11:52:15
This from the same guy who predicted a Hilary landslide the
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/7 12:12:17
yes because life sentences are preferred for white collar
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Ragnar Danneskjold
MU
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8/7 11:59:55
He is nearly 70 and faces decades(nm)
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raskolnikov
MU
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8/7 12:01:42
the average sentence is 15 months. does DECADES seem
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blake1771
KC
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8/7 12:02:51
The average amount defrauded was around $200k
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tigerdb
MU
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8/7 12:09:30
show me ANY tax cheat and i use that term loosely
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blake1771
KC
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8/7 12:12:26
I said 10 years.
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tigerdb
MU
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8/7 12:18:13
For what ?
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raskolnikov
MU
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8/7 12:06:11
nobody is incarcerted for FARA violations. the average
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blake1771
KC
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8/7 12:07:35
You need to pay more attention - from NY Mag:
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raskolnikov
MU
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8/7 12:35:46
You are insane.
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Spanky
KU
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8/7 11:58:34
NO, I find the guy to be a scumbag and want him to face
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raskolnikov
MU
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8/7 12:01:09
Where did I say the judge would let him skate?
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Spanky
KU
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8/7 12:05:22
RE: Where did I say the judge would let him skate?
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raskolnikov
MU
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8/7 12:06:39
That does not say what you think it says.
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Spanky
KU
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8/7 12:09:03
"Judge will be lenient and not impose jail time"
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Badird
MU
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8/7 12:17:30
That does not mean skate....
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Spanky
KU
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8/7 12:19:04
UR Pathetic(nm)
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raskolnikov
MU
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8/7 12:36:40
No.. I am (as usual) factually correct while you (as usual)
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Spanky
KU
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8/7 12:48:34
By skated I meant no time. (nm)
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raskolnikov
MU
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8/7 13:04:22
And I didn't. Getting fined millions of dollars is not
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Spanky
KU
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8/7 13:07:36
The fine for hiding those foreign accounts is 100%
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tigerdb
MU
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8/7 13:15:55
Hiding offshore accounts and not reporting the income result
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Spanky
KU
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8/7 13:31:27
LOL, that's a pretty dumb take.
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tigerdb
MU
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8/7 13:38:58
We shall see. Should I add you to my 'weep watch list'?
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Spanky
KU
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8/7 14:02:48
No, you arent.
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Badird
MU
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8/7 12:59:23
Avoiding jail is skating, Spanky.
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Badird
MU
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8/7 12:21:39
Nope. In this country, people don't generally go to prison
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Spanky
KU
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8/7 12:29:58
Tax fraud, along with:
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Badird
MU
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8/7 12:35:04
63% do not go to jail over this
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Spanky
KU
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8/7 13:09:58
15 months that Blake loves to cite...and 63.9%
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tigerdb
MU
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8/7 13:13:54
Ouch, specifically this:
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Badird
MU
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8/7 13:43:33
Spanky's just playing games with this...
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tigerdb
MU
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8/7 13:45:50
I dont think Spanky is playing anything.
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Badird
MU
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8/7 13:49:34
We shall see how it turns out... You think he is going away
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Spanky
KU
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8/7 14:17:16
Manafort is already "seeing prison"...every time he leaves
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tigerdb
MU
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8/7 14:36:17
Mueller could have passed the case and concentrated on
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Spanky
KU
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8/7 14:53:44
yeah, that's wrong.
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tigerdb
MU
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8/7 12:33:38
Igor Olenicoff (and Ty Warner)
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Spanky
KU
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8/7 12:46:49
Based on what you posted - those individuals were not
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tigerdb
MU
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8/7 13:01:28
lol, first "plea bargain" not trial.
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Badird
MU
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8/7 12:58:42
...and didnt go to prison. (nm)
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Badird
MU
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8/7 12:35:25
Done
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Spanky
KU
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8/7 12:49:50
Hell, even Blake says it's only 15 months....
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tigerdb
MU
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8/7 12:37:51
OFFSHORE tax violations... no jail 60% of the time
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Spanky
KU
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8/7 13:32:24
You're conflating the charges...
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tigerdb
MU
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8/7 13:42:08
Nope.. You are taking stats on ALL tax fraud cases
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Spanky
KU
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8/7 14:55:28
You don't understand the difference between offshore
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tigerdb
MU
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8/7 15:20:25
Honestly, Id rather have a convo with Pickle than Spanky
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Badird
MU
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8/7 12:28:19
* at least if not for a Trump pardon. (nm)
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Badird
MU
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8/7 12:18:31
do you find that to be a fair sentence in accordance with
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blake1771
KC
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8/7 11:52:55
I don't follow tax and bank fraud sentences too very much
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raskolnikov
MU
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8/7 11:58:49
you didn't answer my question. do you think a life sentence
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blake1771
KC
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8/7 11:59:34
He faces 305 years if convicted of everything.
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Badird
MU
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8/7 12:07:18
show me another tax evader who got 300 years
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blake1771
KC
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8/7 12:08:17
RE: show me another tax evader who got 300 years
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Badird
MU
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8/7 12:14:28
I don't know a thing about "avg" times
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raskolnikov
MU
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8/7 12:03:33
Bingo. (nm)
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Badird
MU
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8/7 12:14:59
The failing to register foreign accounts looks pretty solid
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Ragnar Danneskjold
MU
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8/7 11:45:46
wasn't charged with conspiracy, but there are serious tax
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raskolnikov
MU
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8/7 11:53:22
do you think 300 years or whatever it adds up to,so
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blake1771
KC
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8/7 11:55:03
Holy ****, blake. Its not just tax evasion.
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Badird
MU
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8/7 12:13:04
He is 69 right now
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raskolnikov
MU
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8/7 12:08:35
3 weeks could be a death sentence at that age. (nm)
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DC Jayhawk
KU
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8/7 13:00:34
i think if convicted his sentence should be in line with
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blake1771
KC
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8/7 12:09:55
Its not just tax fraud, Blake. (nm)
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Badird
MU
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8/7 12:14:09
no ****. i said i used that term loosely. financial crimes.
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blake1771
KC
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8/7 12:19:10
So you admit there are many felony charges against him?
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Badird
MU
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8/7 12:23:36
Blake seems too stupid to realize that there are multiple
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tigerdb
MU
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8/7 12:32:08
lol what about TAX EVASION/FRAUD, genius.
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Badird
MU
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8/7 11:51:11
yes moron like I said no bombshell of
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Ragnar Danneskjold
MU
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8/7 11:58:58
But you said nothing of the heftier charges.
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Badird
MU
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8/7 12:00:36
If that happens then the rule of law is dead in this country
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catbirdseat
MU
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8/7 11:44:29
Please give us that massive fraud list. You won't of course
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GA Tiger
MU
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8/7 12:01:31
You dont think there was tax fraud? lol (nm)
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Badird
MU
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8/7 12:04:05
There was. I'm asking for the rest of the frauds.
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GA Tiger
MU
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8/7 12:05:49
RE: There was. I'm asking for the rest of the frauds.
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Badird
MU
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8/7 12:25:43
The sentence will be in accordance with the law
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Spanky
KU
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8/7 11:49:40
Us few conservatives feel criminals should be punished
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JG
MU
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8/7 11:43:27
the problem is nobody is ever prosecuted for FARA violations
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blake1771
KC
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8/7 11:51:24
yes partisanship prosecution (and not) is a real
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JG
MU
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8/7 12:01:42
Right, falsifying payments on loans is nbd. (nm)
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Badird
MU
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8/7 11:52:52
it's a deal. not a BIG deal and certainly not something the
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blake1771
KC
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8/7 11:54:09
It occurred during the Trump campaign, Blake.
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Badird
MU
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8/7 11:56:52
surely? why deal in conjecture when you have no clue?
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blake1771
KC
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8/7 11:58:32
I dont think this is about Trump/Russia.
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Badird
MU
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8/7 12:02:07
more to come? you are literally just making **** up
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blake1771
KC
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8/7 12:08:46
You think all of the information against Manafort is out?
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Badird
MU
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8/7 12:13:38
You are not a conservative
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Spanky
KU
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8/7 11:50:11
Without lying....well that ends that*
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JG
MU
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8/7 11:59:49
No George.. you are NOT a conservative
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Spanky
KU
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8/7 12:07:34
I'd guess that a minimum you don't understand
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JG
MU
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8/7 12:15:52
Nope.. I understand them all. Unlike you who fails at
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Spanky
KU
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8/7 12:50:57
I can't make up that kind of irony
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JG
MU
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8/7 12:52:22
You are struggling still
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Spanky
KU
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8/7 12:58:21