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If you could set aside your partisanship and slavish devotio - pickle MU

- 6/20 09:13:08

lecturing about slavish devotion, lol (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 6/20 10:34:58

Because sovereign countries have the right to determine - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 6/20 09:44:38

countries don't have rights, but governments, once in - 90Tiger MU - 6/20 10:35:43

Sovereign countries don't have rights. Only people have - ummmm MU - 6/20 10:02:50

People can form a country and set borders to exclude - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 6/20 10:18:45

You definitely do not believe the former. - ummmm MU - 6/20 10:23:29

I'm not against secession per se - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 6/20 10:28:48

Which secession is ok and which aren't? - pickle MU

- 6/20 10:37:25

I'm not against any really, but there will likely be - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 6/20 10:39:15

So you've recently had a change of heart - pickle MU

- 6/20 10:41:06

I suppose you support the US colonies secession from the - ummmm MU - 6/20 10:32:37

Yes of course I support it though it isn't a "seccession" - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 6/20 10:36:34

uh - 90Tiger MU - 6/20 10:57:54

Why not? (nm) - ummmm MU - 6/20 10:38:45

It was secession - pickle MU

- 6/20 10:38:26

People do not have the right to enter another territory - Spanky KU - 6/20 09:32:22

Borders do not exist in nature. - ummmm MU - 6/20 10:04:25

They absolutely do, they may not be called "borders" - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 6/20 10:20:15

Yes, men by nature are territorial. - ummmm MU - 6/20 10:24:02

nation states are part of the nature of man - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 6/20 10:29:54

that's incorrect (nm) - pickle MU

- 6/20 10:38:59

well maybe in Pickletopia - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 6/20 10:41:00

clever (nm) - pickle MU

- 6/20 10:51:03

How so? Just because they presently exist? (nm) - ummmm MU - 6/20 10:33:28

not just presently (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 6/20 10:36:16

The past thousand years? two thousand years? - ummmm MU - 6/20 10:39:19

200,000 years and basically as soon as man was - 90Tiger MU - 6/20 10:50:49

Large nation states have not been around for 200,000 years. - ummmm MU - 6/20 10:55:49

the discussion wasn't just about "large" nation states - 90Tiger MU - 6/20 10:59:30

native Americans did not have nation states (nm) - pickle MU

- 6/20 12:43:33

Every point I've made in this thread is about large nation - ummmm MU - 6/20 11:00:55

every post not made by you wasn't referring solely to - 90Tiger MU - 6/20 11:06:48

Generally speaking, yes, every post by me in this thread - ummmm MU - 6/20 11:08:05

he didn't say they were, he said man has been around for 200 - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 6/20 10:57:37

"not just presently" (nm) - ummmm MU - 6/20 11:01:22

moreover, i didn't refer to "large" nor did anyone else unti - 90Tiger MU - 6/20 11:01:16

I referred to large nation states. That's the reality of - ummmm MU - 6/20 11:04:18

today isn't the entirety of man's nature, which is the - 90Tiger MU - 6/20 11:08:23

Yes, but the OP and this entire week has been about - ummmm MU - 6/20 11:17:03

Man has banded together since the beginning of time - Spanky KU - 6/20 10:43:13

And for that matter, large populations of people currently - ummmm MU - 6/20 10:49:44

Again Spanky, we're talking about large nation-states - ummmm MU - 6/20 10:43:54

Pickle said we were NOT talking about nation states - Spanky KU - 6/20 11:16:26

we really don't have that great of a sample size - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 6/20 10:34:45

I disagree they are an inevitability, despite their present - ummmm MU - 6/20 10:43:25

Answered your question.(nm) - tcat UMKC - 6/20 10:11:32

Thanks. (nm) - ummmm MU - 6/20 10:12:21

Borders DO exist in nature - Spanky KU - 6/20 10:10:21

Wait, are we talking about nation state borders or borders - ummmm MU - 6/20 10:11:24

Sorry.. From my response to the OP: - Spanky KU - 6/20 11:02:37

I think that's interesting - ummmm MU - 6/20 11:04:58

Quick quistion, If borders are made by people and that exist - tcat UMKC - 6/20 10:15:33

No. They do not exist in nature. - pickle MU

- 6/20 10:24:18

You are ignorant - Spanky KU - 6/20 11:03:37

They don't. Name one. Show me one (nm) - pickle MU

- 6/20 12:42:34

That's a good question - ummmm MU - 6/20 10:22:18

Everyone has a right to travel freely - pickle MU

- 6/20 09:34:26

READ! and then address why borders exist in nature - Spanky KU - 6/20 10:01:58

borders don't exist in nature (nm) - pickle MU

- 6/20 10:18:44

Then we are done... because you will NOT deal with facts - Spanky KU - 6/20 10:41:59

hilarious (nm) - pickle MU

- 6/20 10:51:51

We know you didn't, but he did. You don't get to decide - 90Tiger MU - 6/20 09:37:07

This is another perfect example - mizzouSECedes STL - 6/20 09:27:23

a perfect example of what? (nm) - pickle MU

- 6/20 09:28:21

Lazy response - mizzouSECedes STL - 6/20 09:28:58

I didn't make a response; I started a thread - pickle MU

- 6/20 09:31:01

It can't be spelled out any more - mizzouSECedes STL - 6/20 09:34:44

perhaps it could if you would answer the question - pickle MU

- 6/20 09:37:09

I'm answering your questions. - mizzouSECedes STL - 6/20 09:42:37

You didn't and you haven't - pickle MU

- 6/20 09:46:38

congratulations, you're now officially worse than JG (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 6/20 09:51:56

Thanks for not clicking on links to your own posts - mizzouSECedes STL - 6/20 09:51:18

RE: Thanks for not clicking on links to your own posts - pickle MU

- 6/20 09:59:42

Just wow. - mizzouSECedes STL - 6/20 10:11:26

Why do you insist we change our minds? Never Yours? - RHAYWORTH MU - 6/20 09:24:52

If you could present a compelling argument - pickle MU

- 6/20 09:30:22

the fvck you will. your response will be to continue to - 90Tiger MU - 6/20 09:39:27

Hilarious! I needed that laugh. - RHAYWORTH MU - 6/20 09:33:12

I held neoconservative views not long ago - pickle MU

- 6/20 09:42:36

Is it necessary to debate the legitimacy of the state in - 90Tiger MU - 6/20 09:44:57

Simple - because I live in a Nation, not a free range slab o - 90Tiger MU - 6/20 09:24:15

So a few questions: - ummmm MU - 6/20 10:07:45

Wow, that was really good. And while I realize that a - hokie VT - 6/20 09:31:14

Well stated. - RHAYWORTH MU - 6/20 09:26:45

You have no right to travel freely - MIZZOUowns SEC - 6/20 09:22:05

Everyone has a right to travel freely (nm) - pickle MU

- 6/20 09:28:48

They do not have a right to move freely and live where they - tcat UMKC - 6/20 09:21:00

Everyone has that right (nm) - pickle MU

- 6/20 09:31:31

Where is the proof or is that - tcat UMKC - 6/20 09:38:11

Do you exist? - pickle MU

- 6/20 09:43:22

So if I don't know that some people exist, then they don't? - tcat UMKC - 6/20 10:18:12

Huh? (nm) - pickle MU

- 6/20 10:25:18

my personal overly simplistic opinion - cnk ATL - 6/20 09:18:41

Ok, I've set it aside. Now what?(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 6/20 09:18:37

If the US did not have a legal means to citizenship - Sal KC - 6/20 09:15:45

It isn't just about citizenship. It is also the flow of - TigerMatt MU

- 6/20 09:19:13

Right (nm) - pickle MU

- 6/20 09:31:59

wrong - 90Tiger MU - 6/20 09:39:54

Oh, so all immigrants who come to the US are here for - 90Tiger MU - 6/20 09:25:51

But that is using force against someone - pickle MU

- 6/20 09:17:52

People can think beyond the surface and still render - 90Tiger MU - 6/20 09:29:03

Wait, are we talking about nation state borders or borders

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