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That's what I thought, but it seems harsh. I guess I'm just

Posted on: June 1, 2018 at 18:47:13 CT

Uncle John STL

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not going to judge him this early in his time at MU. Of course that's all I care about. Not concerned with his past.

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Isabell a Biliken - Hoosier Daddy1 IU - 6/1 14:51:01

Corey Tate - alstl MU - 6/2 10:21:40

I respect ROLLATIGER - MakeShift MU - 6/2 10:52:04

He's a good bag man for $LU. As a coach... - Lerxst MU

- 6/2 10:55:51

Shot 34% from three last season for Drexel. A positive... - Lerxst MU

- 6/1 20:29:04

That sucks for us and him. Condolences all the way - FIJItiger MU

- 6/1 15:26:44

Get a life (nm) - Uncle John MU

- 6/1 15:59:20

he is having a complete break from reality - Jeff85 MU - 6/2 11:21:25

I don't get the SLU bashing - MakeShift MU - 6/1 16:27:04

they don't have a good coach(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 6/1 22:46:47

RE: He is a pretty fair recruiter - missinglink MU - 6/2 09:22:38

Is Ford really that bad? - MakeShift MU - 6/2 08:13:23

The arena is not good, but great... - Downstate UI - 6/1 22:29:08

Well, your opinion is weird. - MOOZOO MU - 6/2 08:04:42

SLU is mid-major trash (nm) - myself MU - 6/1 21:49:15

zounami ^^^ - MakeShift MU - 6/2 06:48:37

They don’t bother me but I really don’t pay attention to - DevilsAdvocate MU - 6/1 20:00:08

I dont have a problem with SLU. But the fan base is full - TigerMatt STL - 6/1 19:32:06

Same here. Grew up going to SLU games and pulled... - MOOZOO MU - 6/1 18:27:59

They will have a good team next year. Goodwin is a player.(nm) - Uncle John MU

- 6/1 16:29:47

I have no love for SLU or their fans but it is foolish to - MakeShift MU - 6/2 09:08:19

It’s fiji - Hickeytime MU

- 6/1 16:22:41

It's a shame a mod feels the need to try to run down Cuonzo - Uncle John MU

- 6/1 16:27:26

He's not running down Cuonzo, at all. - tjwheeler UI - 6/1 16:42:06

Nick's an idiot putting up with his crap. He's ruined this - Uncle John MU

- 6/1 17:09:51

RE: Nick's an idiot putting up with his crap. He's ruined this - tjwheeler UI - 6/1 17:30:58

Their starting 5 is ridiculously talented for the A10(nm) - HSCoach STL - 6/1 15:43:42

Where is the shooting going to come from - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/1 15:51:57

Ford is the perfectly inept type of coach for - FIJItiger MU

- 6/1 15:47:06

Which is it? - zodiac6 JC - 6/1 15:57:10

You mean like Clarence Gilbert or Wes Clark? - FIJItiger MU

- 6/1 16:01:47

Gilbert thrived playing within his coach's system. - zodiac6 JC - 6/1 16:08:41

From a bb perspective, they are all 3 the same person(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 6/1 16:13:13

Whoa - Cosmo MU

- 6/1 22:35:52

I know you're not this big of a moran.(nm) - zodiac6 JC - 6/1 16:17:15

you'd be wrong(nm) - MizzouAstro MU

- 6/1 21:32:33

Wrong (nm) - Uncle John MU

- 6/1 16:31:45

You're probably correct.(nm) - zodiac6 JC - 6/1 17:29:29

They had different coaches, but shared a similar - FIJItiger MU

- 6/1 16:18:18

Clark and Isabell did share coaches and teammates. - zodiac6 JC - 6/1 17:31:29

Especially one who already burned his bridges. (nm) - Uncle John MU

- 6/1 16:03:59

Cuonzo didn’t want him - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/1 16:03:44

That is what I am lamenting, kind of frustrating (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 6/1 16:05:31

Cuonzo’s evaluations have been pretty good over - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/1 16:07:58

Examples of his evaluations excluding Top 35 players?(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 6/1 16:43:43

Richardson at Tennessee is the easiest - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/1 17:05:16

Moore was Top 75 - tjwheeler UI - 6/1 17:39:51

35 and 75 are different numbers. - zodiac6 JC - 6/1 17:49:41

And, I'll wait for the evidence CM performed better than - tjwheeler UI - 6/1 18:08:08

Let's actually look at his stats, shall we? - tjwheeler UI - 6/1 18:05:22

I looked at his stats already. - zodiac6 JC - 6/1 18:08:22

No, you didn't look very much, actually. - tjwheeler UI - 6/1 18:09:43

I looked at the numbers that were relevant. - zodiac6 JC - 6/1 18:14:11

By not even looking at his shooting % or assist average. - tjwheeler UI - 6/1 18:17:39

Richardson was 246 in 247 rankings - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/1 17:48:40

And he only averaged 10 points by his junior year. - tjwheeler UI - 6/1 18:02:25

Richardson was an all-SEC first team selection - zodiac6 JC - 6/1 18:07:40

After CM left. While CM was coach, he wasn't impressive(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 6/1 18:08:41

Which, again, is not the point here. - zodiac6 JC - 6/1 18:11:01

Yes, it's about the performance of the player CM recruited. - tjwheeler UI - 6/1 18:13:13

Or it means players tend to get better each year - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/1 18:17:20

Sure, but a seismic leap post CM in both cases(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 6/1 18:17:59

Not really. - zodiac6 JC - 6/1 18:16:29

The entire subthread is about his talent evaluation and - tjwheeler UI - 6/1 18:19:34

"the entire subthread," which you hijacked. - zodiac6 JC - 6/1 18:32:22

I didn't hijack at all. I disagreed and asked for evidence. - tjwheeler UI - 6/1 18:36:58

So do you give Cuonzo credit for the play of players - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/1 18:27:00

Yep, that's fair--especially with Jordan Barnett. - tjwheeler UI - 6/1 18:38:14

No that’s not what this sub thread was about - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/1 18:42:18

Sure it is. If he’s good at evaluating talent, how do you - tjwheeler UI - 6/1 18:53:44

Martin did a great job evaluating Barnett for sure! - zodiac6 JC - 6/1 18:32:48

He seems to have an ax to grind with Cuonzo. Not sure - Uncle John MU

- 6/1 18:30:21

Not at all, John. Give CM credit for Kass and JB - tjwheeler UI - 6/1 18:39:34

Right because Josh Richardson didn’t make the NBA - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/1 19:18:28

And, what did he do when CM coached him? - tjwheeler UI - 6/1 19:55:08

Richardson developed and got better every year - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/1 20:37:59

The guy didn't average double figures until his 3rd year and - tjwheeler UI - 6/1 20:56:04

he was ranked 247 as a recruit - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/1 21:05:31

He didn't develop until his senior year. (nm) - tjwheeler UI - 6/1 22:23:07

Here’s the link for his stats - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/1 22:41:47

Yeah, I've seen those. - tjwheeler UI - 6/2 12:23:43

Tennessee didn’t have Maymon, Barton, McRae it Stokes - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/2 12:52:32

That's what I thought, but it seems harsh. I guess I'm just - Uncle John MU

- 6/1 18:47:13

I think that approach is fair too. - tjwheeler UI - 6/1 18:56:08

That’s true for most college coaches. - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/1 19:01:38

Not exactly. - tjwheeler UI - 6/1 19:06:44

That’s from moving every 3 years - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/1 19:40:09

Let me see if I understand... - tjwheeler UI - 6/1 19:54:13

no I’m comparing how Cuonzo did compared to those - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/1 20:04:10

He's coached 9 seasons. - tjwheeler UI - 6/1 20:30:09

The best NCAA seed in Cal history - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/1 20:33:55

Because he knows Martin turned down an Illinois offer(nm) - zodiac6 JC - 6/1 18:33:34

In your world, of course(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 6/1 18:39:48

I didn't follow him the last 10 yrs. His assessment last - FIJItiger MU

- 6/1 16:11:50

This is, naturally, incorrect. - zodiac6 JC - 6/1 17:29:19

Exact reasons why I said he's running down Cuonzo. (nm) - Uncle John MU

- 6/1 18:03:18

The only reason it sucks for us - zodiac6 JC - 6/1 15:40:38

Also we have no pg, and he was available and interested - FIJItiger MU

- 6/1 15:42:59

Cuonzo had no interest in that punk. (nm) - Uncle John MU

- 6/1 16:00:46

We actually have two point guards. - zodiac6 JC - 6/1 15:49:30

We aren't in the A10 though, I was talking about - FIJItiger MU

- 6/1 15:51:21

We're also not in the Colonial Athletic Association. - zodiac6 JC - 6/1 15:58:11

Agree, we know he would be our best backcourt player - FIJItiger MU

- 6/1 16:04:27

And he sucked most of the time beaker boy (nm) - Uncle John MU

- 6/1 16:06:02

RE: And he sucked most of the time beaker boy (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 6/1 16:07:31

STFU BEAKER(nm) - Uncle John MU

- 6/1 16:21:46

Isabell and Goodwin will be an interesting backcourt - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/1 14:59:56

lolllll oh come on TRILLMAINEEEEEEE(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 6/1 14:51:37

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