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I don't base morals and rights around what the government
Posted on: June 1, 2018 at 16:34:27 CT
TigerMatt
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Ouch! $0.04 jury award to family of black man killed by cop
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 14:19:57
RE: Ouch! $0.04 jury award to family of black man killed by cop
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MUDude
MU
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6/1 16:19:46
Lemme see, 25% of that would be around 1 penny.
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GA Tiger
MU
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6/1 16:22:47
I bet he didn't take the case on contingency
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 18:23:10
righteous bucks(nm)
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tigerNkc
MU
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6/1 15:37:21
That's an outrageous verdict.
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DC Jayhawk
KU
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6/1 15:13:26
Too bad
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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6/1 15:05:43
Maybe they can split that with Michael Brown’s family. Nm
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hokie
VT
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6/1 14:45:04
Who was in the wrong here, hokie?
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 14:45:50
Gregory Hill was in the wrong
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 14:48:14
How? Who was he infringing upon? (nm)
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 14:50:00
Initially, his neighbor who called in the noise complaint
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 14:59:53
Wasn't even a neighbor. Some lady in her car in a school
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 16:39:01
That constitutes a neighbor....
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 16:51:09
Under whose definition?(nm)
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 16:57:26
The news story
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 17:35:14
Maybe there was more than one caller. A 2014 article I
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 18:04:49
Could be... I imagine more than 1 person would
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 18:21:28
It was parents picking up their kids from the school across
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Alferd Packer
MU
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6/1 15:02:52
Dude is sitting in his garage listening to music. Most
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 15:26:02
If there was no noise ordinance, the cops would not have
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 15:28:46
Not true at all. They will still show Up, document it but
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 15:34:22
No.. they actually will not.
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 15:36:23
I can guarantee you they will. Neighbors are trying to
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 15:40:49
That is a bull**** story. What town is this in?
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 15:42:27
I dont live in a town.(nm)
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 15:47:02
What legal jurisdiction do you live in with said noise
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 15:53:54
State of Missouri is as specific as I get with people like
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 15:56:55
Then I am convinced you are not telling the complete story
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 16:04:08
Sure thing. It is not illegal to sit in a parked car but
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 16:09:35
If they suspect it is related to criminal activity they will
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 16:16:10
Actually they will because animal control has a case file.
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 16:32:57
Then there are laws against nuisance noises in your burg
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 16:48:22
No. There is an ordinance that discusses dogs. It however
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 16:55:28
It HAS to be spelled out in the law
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 17:22:02
You'd think so.. But this is it
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 19:12:45
Stop defending and excusing murder(nm)
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 15:35:52
Land of the free. Murdered by the government
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 15:12:19
Justifiable homicide at worst.
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Alferd Packer
MU
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6/1 15:19:14
It's murder
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 15:24:25
If police ever knock on my door, they will get a few 12
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 15:20:51
Save one for yourself, because when they bring down the
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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6/1 16:57:02
If I'm holding you prisoner in my house
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Alferd Packer
MU
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6/1 15:31:15
That is committing a crime. Playing music in the afternoon
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 15:38:39
Disturbing the peace is a violation which would prompt a
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Alferd Packer
MU
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6/1 15:45:17
It's a bull****, non-existent "charge"
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 15:46:50
Disturbing the peace is a violation of Fort Pierce ordinance
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Alferd Packer
MU
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6/1 16:12:37
Land of the free. Murdered for playing loud music
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 16:32:14
No one was being held prisoner (nm)
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 15:36:24
Irrelevant.
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Alferd Packer
MU
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6/1 15:39:54
He's turning your argument back on to you (nm)
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 15:42:13
And it blew up in his face.(nm)
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Alferd Packer
MU
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6/1 16:03:23
It didn't (nm)
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 16:07:01
I hope you paid up your life insurance policy
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 15:25:12
But if I were a pig.. It is all ok.(nm)
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 15:26:26
Not only is it okay, but posters like Spanky will start
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ummmm
MU
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6/1 15:29:49
He devalued his own life in the eyes of the jury
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 15:37:28
Be that as it may, my post was about you laughing at him
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ummmm
MU
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6/1 15:52:28
Where did I laugh?
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 15:55:16
Oh, so you were sincerely sorry for him?
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ummmm
MU
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6/1 16:02:25
I do not believe anyone should die at the hands of another
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 16:11:23
So, were you sincerely sorry for the victim here?
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ummmm
MU
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6/1 16:22:38
RE: So, were you sincerely sorry for the victim here?
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 16:24:15
That doesn't answer the question. We can agree that you
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ummmm
MU
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6/1 16:25:29
It precisely answers the question
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 16:29:47
Pussy (nm)
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 16:33:01
You're lying.
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ummmm
MU
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6/1 16:32:01
You are also a piece of **** (nm)
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 15:42:43
Brain dead people like you who have no morals.(nm)
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 15:41:53
Nope.. you are the brain dead cretin with no sense of
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 15:55:57
I know shooting someone through their garage door is wrong.
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 15:58:01
Well... you seem to be mistaken in this case
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 16:17:34
I don't base morals and rights around what the government
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 16:34:27
What do you base it on?
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 16:49:46
Natural rights.. which the government violates.(nm)
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 16:58:57
The US legal system is not based on Natural Rights Theory
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 17:27:22
I suspect you are a pig
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 15:29:33
No, loud music is not an infringement
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 15:01:02
It wasn't real music.
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Alferd Packer
MU
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6/1 15:06:12
You will do anything to justify murder
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 15:10:32
Self-defense isn't murder, dumb-ass.
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Alferd Packer
MU
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6/1 15:11:43
Not self defense. The gun was in his back pocket.(nm)
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 16:11:09
The cops were infringing on him
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 15:13:14
So you're saying anybody has the right to point a gun
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Alferd Packer
MU
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6/1 15:15:39
A made up story to cover for murder.(nm)
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 15:17:57
Prove it was "made up."(nm)
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Alferd Packer
MU
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6/1 15:26:25
Prove he waved his gun and pointed it at them (nm)
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 15:43:15
Dont have to. Burden of proof is on the police to prove
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 15:27:28
Cleared by a grand jury.
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Alferd Packer
MU
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6/1 15:34:22
A prosecutor can get anyone indicted by a grand jury. But
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 15:43:04
I didn't say that nor imply it
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 15:17:21
Maybe you ought to point a gun at a couple cops and
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Alferd Packer
MU
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6/1 15:18:16
Were the cops on their own property? (nm)
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 15:25:44
Doesn't matter.(nm)
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Alferd Packer
MU
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6/1 15:27:37
It does. Spoiler: it wasn't. They were trespassing (nm)
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 15:32:02
You have no proof he ever did that. It was found in his back
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 15:19:31
Witnesses said he pointed it at the cops.
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Alferd Packer
MU
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6/1 15:36:43
You have no proof (nm)
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 15:43:58
Was it "Get Paid, Young Man, Get Paid"?
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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6/1 15:08:26
I don't listen to that crap so I wouldn't know.(nm)
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Alferd Packer
MU
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6/1 15:12:30
Yes.. loud music is an infringement
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 15:06:09
What right is being infringed upon? (nm)
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 15:09:45
List the rights of a human, pickle
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 15:22:42
The rights to your own life, your own liberty, and your
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ummmm
MU
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6/1 15:28:57
Do I have the right to worship the God of my choosing?
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 15:35:04
Yes. No. No. No. (nm)
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ummmm
MU
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6/1 15:50:52
Yes. No. No. No. (nm)
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 15:37:44
What right is violated if I cannot worship the God of my
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 15:41:19
Your right to your own life and liberty, and very likely
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ummmm
MU
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6/1 15:51:35
Your right of self-ownership
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 15:45:39
So more rights than Life Liberty and Property?
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 16:30:47
Excuse me? (nm)
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 16:56:52
did you **** yourself?
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 18:36:40
Those all spring from the same right. The right to one's
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ummmm
MU
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6/1 16:36:03
Self ownership would the LOGICALLY also be extended
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 16:54:29
No one was forced to listen (nm)
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 16:57:44
Yes.. they were.
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 17:45:07
No they weren't.
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 17:52:44
Yes.. they were
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 18:04:32
What right is being infringed upon by loud music? (nm)
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 15:26:37
What right is infringed upon by forcing someone to stand for
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 15:40:33
Don't try to change the subject
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 15:51:34
ummm answered your question
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 16:55:27
Pussy (nm)
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 16:58:08
tsk, tsk, tsk
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 18:25:06
The well-being of children.
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Alferd Packer
MU
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6/1 15:14:03
No. There is no right to not hear music
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 15:15:25
He did nothing wrong and was murdered by police.(nm)
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 14:49:45
He pointed a gun at police.
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Alferd Packer
MU
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6/1 15:08:08
First, nowhere does it say that he did that
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 15:09:20
That is incorrect
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 15:00:21
A jury sided with OJ Simpson. Think he was innocent?(nm)
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 15:16:16
Yes.
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 15:26:19
It is correct (nm)
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 15:01:15
Nope
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Spanky
KU
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6/1 15:07:23
One, I say cops lied. Guy is hit 4 times and so he
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GA Tiger
MU
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6/1 14:30:42
The cop was still in harm's way because the drunk was armed.
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Alferd Packer
MU
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6/1 14:47:41
I just wonder about gun in pocket.(nm)
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GA Tiger
MU
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6/1 15:32:28
The cop had no business trespassing (nm)
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 14:50:35
They weren't trespassing.
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Alferd Packer
MU
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6/1 15:10:32
Was it their property?
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 15:14:29
If you are on someone's driveway because you asked
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 14:27:26
You left out the part where the "victim" was holding a gun.
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Alferd Packer
MU
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6/1 14:32:02
Is it illegal to have a gun in your hand in your own house?
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 14:34:30
It is if you're confronting someone who is no threat.
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Alferd Packer
MU
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6/1 14:41:45
But he was being confronted by a threat
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ummmm
MU
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6/1 14:50:54
It isn't. For all you know he could have been cleaning it
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 14:44:45
No it isn't (nm)
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 14:42:43
We may not know he was when he was shot.(nm)
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GA Tiger
MU
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6/1 14:33:21
He was still known to have been armed
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Alferd Packer
MU
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6/1 14:35:53
Now you admit the police confronted him on his own property
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 14:43:35
So cops can shoot anyone that has a gun?(nm)
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 14:37:18
If he doesn't surrender it on command, yes.(nm)
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Alferd Packer
MU
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6/1 14:42:51
Not a big gun rights guy, eh? (nm)
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ummmm
MU
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6/1 14:51:42
Knock knock
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 14:53:43
Wow. (nm)
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 14:43:57
It's his property and he wasn't using against anyone else.
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 14:33:21
A belligerent drunk waves a gun at you. Then closes the door
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Alferd Packer
MU
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6/1 14:38:02
On my property or when I trespass on his?
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 14:40:03
I know if I'm scared for my life by a crazed gunman, I'm
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 14:43:13
Why wait until he closed the door to shoot? Garage doors are
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 14:38:53
Land of the free. Get murdered by the government
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 14:21:49
You left out the part where the "victim" was holding a gun.
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Alferd Packer
MU
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6/1 14:32:52
That's the cop's claim --
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DC Jayhawk
KU
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6/1 15:14:49
Because it's irrelevant (nm)
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 14:43:04
If the police were so threatened, why did they wait until
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 14:36:31
Here’s 10 for being a pussy and using an alternate
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Ferg
STL
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6/1 14:28:22
RE: Here’s 10 for being a pussy and using an alternate
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 14:31:09
Here's 25 for you.(nm)
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 14:31:09
Thanks. Even by cucumber standards you are weak
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Ferg
STL
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6/1 14:38:06
I know. I just swallow whatever the police claim without
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TigerMatt
MU
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6/1 14:40:33
Talk about following a master (nm)
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Kaw-djer
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6/1 14:44:30