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I am a biologist and I disagree. If it is at conception

Posted on: March 21, 2018 at 13:15:45 CT
Silas MU
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(as you assert), how do you feel about freezing fertilized eggs for IVF in liquid nitrogen? That is “conception” in biological terms.

Is that what God wanted? Should those fertilized eggs be emplanted, forever frozen or discarded?

Edited by Silas at 13:23:06 on 03/21/18
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Why are the same people who are “pro-life” also “pro- - Silas MU - 3/21 12:46:11
     i'm pro life anti death penalty. but you could have just as - blake1771 KC - 3/21 21:12:33
     what choice did that life taken out of the womb have? - tigerinhogtown STL - 3/21 13:08:51
          What choice does some kid killed at school when the US bombs - TigerMatt STL - 3/21 13:47:39
               You are right, it is wrong to kill a child at school(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 3/21 15:58:48
          Can the fetus survive outside the womb? - Silas MU - 3/21 13:10:14
               Can an infant survive on its own? By your reasoning it - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/21 13:35:16
                    Can an a fetus SURVIVE - MrBlueSky MU - 3/21 14:06:02
                         What criteria are you using to discern whether or not a - JeffB MU - 3/21 14:09:20
               they have survived at less than 22 weeks - tigerinhogtown STL - 3/21 13:16:50
                    90% of abortions happen before 20 weeks (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 3/21 13:25:24
                         Deliberately killing innocent human beings at younger ages - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:27:35
                              sometimes murder is the decent thing to do (nm) - pickle MU - 3/21 13:29:41
                                   Nice melding of a straw man with your double standard there, - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:32:30
                                        He's being sarcastic (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 3/21 13:33:38
                                             No, actually he isn't. (nm) - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:34:23
                                                  it's textbook sarcasm, Jeff (nm) - pickle MU - 3/21 13:40:51
                                                       In response to my claim that I believe the death sentence - JeffB MU - 3/21 14:07:53
                                                            it's textbook sarcasm, Jeff - pickle MU - 3/21 14:11:31
                                        that's not a straw man, Jeff (nm) - pickle MU - 3/21 13:33:34
                                             Of course it is pickle. But you needed your double standard - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:37:21
                                                  it isn't a straw man, Jeff (nm) - pickle MU - 3/21 13:40:05
                                                       Of course it is. Do you think that I am in favor of murder?(nm) - JeffB MU - 3/21 14:11:26
                                                            I know you are. sometimes it's the decent thing to do (nm) - pickle MU - 3/21 14:12:24
                                                                 Hence, your straw man, double standard combo. - JeffB MU - 3/21 14:45:10
                                                                      it's not a straw man - pickle MU - 3/21 15:06:34
               Can a newborn survive on his or her own? - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:13:59
               Even if you call it a parasite - mizzouSECedes STL - 3/21 13:10:57
     So, stereotyping people is fine, if you're a progressive? - RHAYWORTH MU - 3/21 13:02:16
     those are all different issues - Ferg MU - 3/21 13:01:14
          they are all related (nm) - pickle MU - 3/21 13:24:15
          each invokes taking of life does it not? - Silas MU - 3/21 13:08:28
               So does self-defense and war. Are you against those in - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:22:59
               No. - Ferg MU - 3/21 13:12:04
                    Yes (nm) - pickle MU - 3/21 13:24:32
                         No - Ferg MU - 3/21 13:27:43
                              Yes, Ferg. You're using logical fallacies (nm) - pickle MU - 3/21 13:30:27
               Abortion is taking life, is it not? - mizzouSECedes STL - 3/21 13:09:30
                    According to self-proclaimed “pro-lifers” - Silas MU - 3/21 13:11:43
                         If by pro-lifers you mean anyone with even a basic - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/21 13:38:50
                         It's just an easily observable, scientific fact. (nm) - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:21:52
          abortion is not a medical issue - Spanky KU - 3/21 13:07:07
               Your article even points out examples. JFC.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 3/21 13:50:06
               'There is no such thing as an abortion to save the life of - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:26:32
                    Yes there is (nm) - pickle MU - 3/21 13:30:56
                         You read what Dr. Isajaw said, after years of experience and - JeffB MU - 3/21 14:13:38
                              have you ever heard of ectopic pregnancy, Jeff? - pickle MU - 3/21 15:22:25
                                   Of course you didn't read the link. That's why you bring - JeffB MU - 4/23 07:55:59
               It’s a medical issue. - Ferg MU - 3/21 13:13:19
                    In the same way that China's execution of prisoners tor - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:15:26
                         Wow - Ferg MU - 3/21 13:17:48
                              The truth can be a little shocking for those who have never - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:20:22
                                   no. That was just a really bizarre post. - Ferg MU - 3/21 13:26:54
                                        The point is a valid one. - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:29:46
                                             straw man (nm) - pickle MU - 3/21 13:33:07
                                                  Not in the slightest. (nm) - JeffB MU - 4/23 07:59:20
                                             I agree. In your mind you see these things as equivalent - Ferg MU - 3/21 13:31:31
                                                  No, I don't see them as equivalent. I'm pointing out to you - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:33:41
                                                       he didn't give any standards, Jeff (nm) - pickle MU - 3/21 13:43:15
     Because there is no difference between a serial killer and - MUTGR MU - 3/21 13:00:34
     I'm not. You can also ask why some are the other way around(nm) - tigerNkc MU - 3/21 12:56:56
     The military protects us from foreign powers who may try to - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/21 12:53:16
          you have a flawed view of “protection” - Silas MU - 3/21 12:58:34
               Why are you in favor of deliberately killing helpless, innoc - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:00:01
                    In your opinion (don’t go to citing some BS testimony or - Silas MU - 3/21 13:03:31
                         It is a scientific fact, unanimously acknowledged by the sci - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:13:05
                         at conception - Spanky KU - 3/21 13:07:45
                              I am a biologist and I disagree. If it is at conception - Silas MU - 3/21 13:15:45
                                   They are life - Spanky KU - 3/21 13:36:21
                                   There is an ontological change at conception that never - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:19:40
                                        Quit with the copied and pasted BS being passed off as some - Silas MU - 3/21 13:22:27
                                             Your ignorant biology comment needed to be addressed - Spanky KU - 3/21 15:01:45
                    A 12 week fetus is not a human being jeff, sorry (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 3/21 13:00:24
                         what it is then , a puppy? Sorry, it's human. - RHAYWORTH MU - 3/21 13:04:01
                              The truth obviously means nothing to him. His opinions are - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:09:34
                         Of course he are she is a human being. That's just an - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:02:25
                              The funny thing is that libs are constantly accusing the - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/21 13:32:29
          false and missing the point (nm) - pickle MU - 3/21 12:55:28
          "our unborn children" - MrBlueSky MU - 3/21 12:55:02
               The truth scares you apparently. (nm) - JeffB MU - 3/21 12:57:46
                    Are the 500,000 kids in foster care - MrBlueSky MU - 3/21 12:59:00
                         Yes. Why, are you in favor of killing them too? (nm) - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:00:39
                              I'm not. - MrBlueSky MU - 3/21 13:01:15
                                   If you are trying to make some sort of argument in favor - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:06:57
     they don't get it - TheShoe STL - 3/21 12:52:47
     ask Jeff, 4Tigs, and AP. Oh, and Spanky (nm) - pickle MU - 3/21 12:48:40
          oh, and MizzouTigerz (nm) - pickle MU - 3/21 12:53:04
     False premise. (nm) - JeffB MU - 3/21 12:48:02
     Why are the same people who are pro abortion against - Spanky KU - 3/21 12:47:46
          Protect the guilty, kill the innocent. Not really billboard - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/21 12:55:10
               I'm sorry, where has anyone said to let murderers walk - MrBlueSky MU - 3/21 12:55:47
                    it Is not sad it is just revealing your hypocrisy so you are - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/21 13:37:05
          A fetus inside a mother’s womb. It is the mother’s Body. - Silas MU - 3/21 12:54:29
               So, you also support legalizing prostitution? - RHAYWORTH MU - 3/21 13:06:21
               A human life.... I am not surprised you ignore that fact - Spanky KU - 3/21 12:59:36
                    But for use of drones & OK with collateral damage in - Silas MU - 3/21 13:02:04
                         Against all that shyt. bring the boys home. Why are we - tigerNkc MU - 3/21 13:04:28
                              Spanky isn't against it. He's an interventionist - MrBlueSky MU - 3/21 13:24:54
                    At least you're consistent (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 3/21 13:00:05
                    the only way to be IMO(nm) - tigerNkc MU - 3/21 13:00:00
               spoken like a black-hearted liberal(nm) - tigerNkc MU - 3/21 12:57:50




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