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Posted on: March 21, 2018 at 13:13:05 CT
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entific community that specializes in embryology.

https://prolifepages.wordpress.com/2012/09/19/when-does-human-life-begin/

Dianne N. Irving, M.A., Ph.D. has one of the more concise and precise summations of the question of when human beings first come into existence in her lifeissues.net article:

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When Word Games Kill
http://www.lifeissues.net/writers/irv/irv_06wordgame.html

“It might surprise many that there has been an unaltered scientific consensus for half a century that a real, already existing, live, whole human being begins as a human embryo (or zygote) immediately at fertilization. This is a scientific fact – not an “opinion”, or a religious or theological belief. And public policy debates and decision making should not continue to escape that unavoidable scientific fact.”
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Why are the same people who are “pro-life” also “pro- - Silas MU - 3/21 12:46:11
     i'm pro life anti death penalty. but you could have just as - blake1771 KC - 3/21 21:12:33
     what choice did that life taken out of the womb have? - tigerinhogtown STL - 3/21 13:08:51
          What choice does some kid killed at school when the US bombs - TigerMatt STL - 3/21 13:47:39
               You are right, it is wrong to kill a child at school(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 3/21 15:58:48
          Can the fetus survive outside the womb? - Silas MU - 3/21 13:10:14
               Can an infant survive on its own? By your reasoning it - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/21 13:35:16
                    Can an a fetus SURVIVE - MrBlueSky MU - 3/21 14:06:02
                         What criteria are you using to discern whether or not a - JeffB MU - 3/21 14:09:20
               they have survived at less than 22 weeks - tigerinhogtown STL - 3/21 13:16:50
                    90% of abortions happen before 20 weeks (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 3/21 13:25:24
                         Deliberately killing innocent human beings at younger ages - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:27:35
                              sometimes murder is the decent thing to do (nm) - pickle MU - 3/21 13:29:41
                                   Nice melding of a straw man with your double standard there, - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:32:30
                                        He's being sarcastic (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 3/21 13:33:38
                                             No, actually he isn't. (nm) - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:34:23
                                                  it's textbook sarcasm, Jeff (nm) - pickle MU - 3/21 13:40:51
                                                       In response to my claim that I believe the death sentence - JeffB MU - 3/21 14:07:53
                                                            it's textbook sarcasm, Jeff - pickle MU - 3/21 14:11:31
                                        that's not a straw man, Jeff (nm) - pickle MU - 3/21 13:33:34
                                             Of course it is pickle. But you needed your double standard - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:37:21
                                                  it isn't a straw man, Jeff (nm) - pickle MU - 3/21 13:40:05
                                                       Of course it is. Do you think that I am in favor of murder?(nm) - JeffB MU - 3/21 14:11:26
                                                            I know you are. sometimes it's the decent thing to do (nm) - pickle MU - 3/21 14:12:24
                                                                 Hence, your straw man, double standard combo. - JeffB MU - 3/21 14:45:10
                                                                      it's not a straw man - pickle MU - 3/21 15:06:34
               Can a newborn survive on his or her own? - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:13:59
               Even if you call it a parasite - mizzouSECedes STL - 3/21 13:10:57
     So, stereotyping people is fine, if you're a progressive? - RHAYWORTH MU - 3/21 13:02:16
     those are all different issues - Ferg MU - 3/21 13:01:14
          they are all related (nm) - pickle MU - 3/21 13:24:15
          each invokes taking of life does it not? - Silas MU - 3/21 13:08:28
               So does self-defense and war. Are you against those in - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:22:59
               No. - Ferg MU - 3/21 13:12:04
                    Yes (nm) - pickle MU - 3/21 13:24:32
                         No - Ferg MU - 3/21 13:27:43
                              Yes, Ferg. You're using logical fallacies (nm) - pickle MU - 3/21 13:30:27
               Abortion is taking life, is it not? - mizzouSECedes STL - 3/21 13:09:30
                    According to self-proclaimed “pro-lifers” - Silas MU - 3/21 13:11:43
                         If by pro-lifers you mean anyone with even a basic - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/21 13:38:50
                         It's just an easily observable, scientific fact. (nm) - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:21:52
          abortion is not a medical issue - Spanky KU - 3/21 13:07:07
               Your article even points out examples. JFC.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 3/21 13:50:06
               'There is no such thing as an abortion to save the life of - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:26:32
                    Yes there is (nm) - pickle MU - 3/21 13:30:56
                         You read what Dr. Isajaw said, after years of experience and - JeffB MU - 3/21 14:13:38
                              have you ever heard of ectopic pregnancy, Jeff? - pickle MU - 3/21 15:22:25
                                   Of course you didn't read the link. That's why you bring - JeffB MU - 4/23 07:55:59
               It’s a medical issue. - Ferg MU - 3/21 13:13:19
                    In the same way that China's execution of prisoners tor - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:15:26
                         Wow - Ferg MU - 3/21 13:17:48
                              The truth can be a little shocking for those who have never - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:20:22
                                   no. That was just a really bizarre post. - Ferg MU - 3/21 13:26:54
                                        The point is a valid one. - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:29:46
                                             straw man (nm) - pickle MU - 3/21 13:33:07
                                                  Not in the slightest. (nm) - JeffB MU - 4/23 07:59:20
                                             I agree. In your mind you see these things as equivalent - Ferg MU - 3/21 13:31:31
                                                  No, I don't see them as equivalent. I'm pointing out to you - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:33:41
                                                       he didn't give any standards, Jeff (nm) - pickle MU - 3/21 13:43:15
     Because there is no difference between a serial killer and - MUTGR MU - 3/21 13:00:34
     I'm not. You can also ask why some are the other way around(nm) - tigerNkc MU - 3/21 12:56:56
     The military protects us from foreign powers who may try to - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/21 12:53:16
          you have a flawed view of “protection” - Silas MU - 3/21 12:58:34
               Why are you in favor of deliberately killing helpless, innoc - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:00:01
                    In your opinion (don’t go to citing some BS testimony or - Silas MU - 3/21 13:03:31
                         It is a scientific fact, unanimously acknowledged by the sci - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:13:05
                         at conception - Spanky KU - 3/21 13:07:45
                              I am a biologist and I disagree. If it is at conception - Silas MU - 3/21 13:15:45
                                   They are life - Spanky KU - 3/21 13:36:21
                                   There is an ontological change at conception that never - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:19:40
                                        Quit with the copied and pasted BS being passed off as some - Silas MU - 3/21 13:22:27
                                             Your ignorant biology comment needed to be addressed - Spanky KU - 3/21 15:01:45
                    A 12 week fetus is not a human being jeff, sorry (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 3/21 13:00:24
                         what it is then , a puppy? Sorry, it's human. - RHAYWORTH MU - 3/21 13:04:01
                              The truth obviously means nothing to him. His opinions are - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:09:34
                         Of course he are she is a human being. That's just an - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:02:25
                              The funny thing is that libs are constantly accusing the - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/21 13:32:29
          false and missing the point (nm) - pickle MU - 3/21 12:55:28
          "our unborn children" - MrBlueSky MU - 3/21 12:55:02
               The truth scares you apparently. (nm) - JeffB MU - 3/21 12:57:46
                    Are the 500,000 kids in foster care - MrBlueSky MU - 3/21 12:59:00
                         Yes. Why, are you in favor of killing them too? (nm) - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:00:39
                              I'm not. - MrBlueSky MU - 3/21 13:01:15
                                   If you are trying to make some sort of argument in favor - JeffB MU - 3/21 13:06:57
     they don't get it - TheShoe STL - 3/21 12:52:47
     ask Jeff, 4Tigs, and AP. Oh, and Spanky (nm) - pickle MU - 3/21 12:48:40
          oh, and MizzouTigerz (nm) - pickle MU - 3/21 12:53:04
     False premise. (nm) - JeffB MU - 3/21 12:48:02
     Why are the same people who are pro abortion against - Spanky KU - 3/21 12:47:46
          Protect the guilty, kill the innocent. Not really billboard - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/21 12:55:10
               I'm sorry, where has anyone said to let murderers walk - MrBlueSky MU - 3/21 12:55:47
                    it Is not sad it is just revealing your hypocrisy so you are - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/21 13:37:05
          A fetus inside a mother’s womb. It is the mother’s Body. - Silas MU - 3/21 12:54:29
               So, you also support legalizing prostitution? - RHAYWORTH MU - 3/21 13:06:21
               A human life.... I am not surprised you ignore that fact - Spanky KU - 3/21 12:59:36
                    But for use of drones & OK with collateral damage in - Silas MU - 3/21 13:02:04
                         Against all that shyt. bring the boys home. Why are we - tigerNkc MU - 3/21 13:04:28
                              Spanky isn't against it. He's an interventionist - MrBlueSky MU - 3/21 13:24:54
                    At least you're consistent (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 3/21 13:00:05
                    the only way to be IMO(nm) - tigerNkc MU - 3/21 13:00:00
               spoken like a black-hearted liberal(nm) - tigerNkc MU - 3/21 12:57:50




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