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Posted on: March 7, 2018 at 14:58:26 CT
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all of the energy necessary to keep the universe in motion for infinity?

The universe could not create itself out of nothing, of course.

The alternative posited by some, would be a universe that just always existed. But given the laws of thermodynamics a perpetual motion machine cannot exist other than in a perfect vacuum... and heat will always go from hot objects to cooler objects until equilibrium is reached and all objects are the same temperature.

If the universe always existed there would necessarily be an infinite amount of time behind us. It has no beginning after all.

If there is an infinite amount of time behind us then the universe would have run out of energy by now and everything would be in a state of equilibrium, the sun and stars and planets, asteroids, comets, space dust and whatever else is in the universe would all be one, constant temperature by now.

There must necessarily be someone or something outside of the universe that created it & put it into motion.

The earth is currently spinning at almost 1,000 mph, while orbiting the sun at 66,000 mph, and the solar system is orbiting our "standard of rest" within the galaxy at about 43,000 mph, and that subset of our galaxy is orbiting the galaxy at about 483,000 mph & altogether we are traveling at approximately 1.3 million mph!

https://astrosociety.org/edu/publications/tnl/71/howfast.html#2

We could not do that perpetually.
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Boy here's something we'll never resolve. - GA Tiger MU - 3/7 14:07:39
     The Big Bang Theory does in fact state that there was - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/7 14:20:08
          It does not state there was nothing before the big bang - cnk ATL - 3/7 16:16:03
          God too, was a baby at one time. - Toger STL - 3/7 15:27:00
               No. God was never a baby. The God-Man, He who was both - MizzouTigerz MU - 3/7 15:43:54
          And regarding this subject, not only will neither - GA Tiger MU - 3/7 14:23:14
               Not true. You are assuming that there is no God. - JeffB MU - 3/7 14:51:49
                    How could any opinion about anything possibly - GA Tiger MU - 3/7 15:02:52
                         I'm not sure what you are asking here. - JeffB MU - 3/7 15:11:15
                              If all things are possible then any assertion on what - GA Tiger MU - 3/7 15:25:10
                                   But if you are saying that 1. We will NEVER know the - JeffB MU - 3/7 16:04:56
                                        If that can be done, why hasn't it been done by now? Why - GA Tiger MU - 3/7 18:36:53
                                             The answers are there, right out in the open for all to see. - JeffB MU - 3/8 08:20:51
                    How could that come about?(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 3/7 15:00:20
                         God can communicate with us. (nm) - JeffB MU - 3/7 15:02:56
                              Of course. In what manner?(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 3/7 15:04:11
                                   He has communicated with us in multiple ways throughout - JeffB MU - 3/7 15:13:35
                                        Bull****. Ancient man makes such claims, but there is - TigerMatt STL - 3/7 16:00:10
                                             Christian claims are backed up by historical evidence, logic - JeffB MU - 3/7 16:08:11
                                                  Lol no they aren't (nm) - pickle MU - 3/7 18:27:40
                                                  Where are all these miracles you claim?(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 3/7 16:15:45
                                                  Bull****. Where is the evidence Jesus returned from the - TigerMatt STL - 3/7 16:14:58
                                        That all seems rather indirect, unclear and ambiguous and - GA Tiger MU - 3/7 15:28:32
               Both questions will be answered Gat - Uncle Fester USMC - 3/7 14:37:25
                    Fester, are you a flat earther? (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 3/7 14:38:44
                         No, Ive been meaning to watch some videos just to see what - Uncle Fester USMC - 3/7 14:53:48
          No faith is involved in being an atheist - pickle MU - 3/7 14:21:15
               Of course faith is involved. Where did matter come from, and - JeffB MU - 3/7 14:58:26
                    No one believes the universe will be in motion for - TigerMatt STL - 3/7 15:53:53
                         can't make this stuff up and yet - TigerFan92 MU - 3/7 20:53:10
                         Current belief is that the universe will expand forever. So - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/7 16:14:38
                              Space will, but eventually there will be no new star - TigerMatt STL - 3/7 16:20:11
                    On your first questions... - DC Jayhawk KU - 3/7 15:20:24
                         While it was nice and tidy the ‘big crunch’ has been - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/7 15:58:30
                              Something from nothing has been observed. - TigerMatt STL - 3/7 16:03:19
                                   vacuums are not empty. So this would not be an example of - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/7 16:07:19
                                        Tel that to the physicists studying it.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 3/7 16:13:29
                         Big crunch is no longer believed.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 3/7 15:54:39
               To believe that life on Earth in all of its complexities - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/7 14:42:35




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