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What a straw man.

Posted on: February 27, 2018 at 12:33:12 CT

Badird MU

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I have not advocated for disarming.

But if you are worried about self/home defense, I would encourage you to buy an alarm system. ADT does a better job protecting your family and there is no risk of injury.

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Oops - Badird MU - 2/27 12:04:22

nice like - there is a reason twitter starts with TWIT(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/27 12:43:16

One fact regarding guns is very clear: guns in the home - MrBlueSky MU - 2/27 12:23:13

that's not a fact (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/27 12:27:10

Yes it is a fact statistically(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 2/27 12:35:17

Lmfao. Did you think before you typed that? - pickle MU

- 2/27 13:33:51

Ban cookies and potato chips. Statistically if you have - TigerMatt STL - 2/27 12:39:17

A 5 year old has never accidentally killed their younger - MrBlueSky MU - 2/27 12:40:59

Parents have killed their kids over time with - TigerMatt STL - 2/27 12:42:17

Sure, I didn't bring eating habits into this. I just said - MrBlueSky MU - 2/27 12:44:23

You've really done quite enough here, don't you think? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/27 12:46:25

51 times more likely a kid to be killed by household - TigerMatt STL - 2/27 12:45:15

I really hope you get the chance to fight a tyrannical - MrBlueSky MU - 2/27 12:46:31

childish (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/27 13:04:39

I'd say, like most things, it's an individual issue and like - 90Tiger MU - 2/27 12:26:35

Individuals don't accidently kill themselves at home? - MrBlueSky MU - 2/27 12:37:58

sure, but it's just not with guns (nm) - Sal KC - 2/27 12:56:37

So what? Stupid people kill themselves or others all - TigerMatt STL - 2/27 12:41:10

that is not a fact (nm) - Sal KC - 2/27 12:26:13

It absolutely is (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 2/27 12:37:16

Not a fact - Roberts MU - 2/27 12:24:58

False claim - Spanky KU - 2/27 12:15:28

My rates never went up because of - Sal KC - 2/27 12:08:24

You're apparently a police officer - MrBlueSky MU - 2/27 12:16:34

I owned guns before I became a cop - Sal KC - 2/27 12:19:28

Rates don't go up. - Evenflow MU - 2/27 12:18:34

Yes, if you want to claim them as "insured property" - Mormad MU - 2/27 12:20:26

Most aren't valuable ebough to carry an individual rider - tman KC - 2/27 12:26:41

Right, but if you get enough of them - Mormad MU - 2/27 12:27:38

True, but he speaking for the general public - tman KC - 2/27 12:29:15

Someone steals that and they're likely to - Mormad MU - 2/27 12:31:06

Possibly(nm) - tman KC - 2/27 13:20:01

It would really take a large gun collection (nm) - Sal KC - 2/27 12:27:32

The more property you claim for insurance the more costs - TigerMatt STL - 2/27 12:07:08

Correct, there are certain limits - Sal KC - 2/27 12:09:03

Oh, you think theyre only talking about Homeowners? - Badird MU - 2/27 12:08:53

I have a $300K umbrella policy and was asked nothing about - TigerMatt STL - 2/27 12:19:55

That article doesn't do - Sal KC - 2/27 12:12:28

The take home was that homicide rates go up for gun owners - Badird MU - 2/27 12:14:59

My insurance company never asked if I own and they - Civil-E-Tiger MU - 2/27 12:18:36

Who cares what insurance companies acknowledge? - ummmm MU - 2/27 12:16:59

Youre failing to grasp a few things.... - Badird MU - 2/27 12:19:08

Tell that to the 67,740 times a year it is used for self - TigerMatt STL - 2/27 12:24:58

What is a better means of self defense - Sal KC - 2/27 12:26:00

But apparently other people misuse their guns at times - ummmm MU - 2/27 12:29:17

What a straw man. - Badird MU - 2/27 12:33:12

It's not a straw man - Sal KC - 2/27 12:58:59

Your position is that it unwise to have a gun for self - ummmm MU - 2/27 12:36:08

Or have both ADT and guns.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 2/27 12:35:13

It's a false premise - Sal KC - 2/27 12:23:01

But guns have been, can be, and will continue to be an - ummmm MU - 2/27 12:22:21

As an aggregate, they are not. - Badird MU - 2/27 12:25:41

I'm not worried about people who accidentally shoot - TigerMatt STL - 2/27 12:34:09

Again, you are failing to grasp the point. - ummmm MU - 2/27 12:27:42

Im not saying we should change anything. - Badird MU - 2/27 12:31:27

The whole doesn't matter. No one who supports gun rights - ummmm MU - 2/27 12:34:28

Is your point to argue that simple fact? - Badird MU - 2/27 12:37:54

My point should be fairly clear by now: - ummmm MU - 2/27 12:40:10

I dont disagree. - Badird MU - 2/27 12:43:20

That's your grand point here? - ummmm MU - 2/27 12:51:25

Have I not made that clear this whole time? - Badird MU - 2/27 12:54:42

Such a collectivist viewpoint. (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/27 12:06:25

RE: Oops - MOCO SON MU - 2/27 12:06:15

At least he knows how to spell it - Uncle Fester USMC - 2/27 12:09:39