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That was an oversight, not a logical fallacy, of course.

Posted on: February 21, 2018 at 21:48:17 CT
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In that analogy I was thinking along the lines of a shared pond in a governmentless (anarchistic) society. A couple of families/tribes have lived there for many years in relative peace and harmony. But as their families/tribes grew the strain on the resources became more evident and then when drought struck there just wasn't enough to go around.

The pond that used to support you and your family is dropping and in danger of drying up. The family on the other side is using more water than ever despite conservation measures on both sides. Efforts at negotiation are futile. There is no other place to go within any reasonable distance. Other families populate all of the surrounding land and everyone is hurting. No one has any land, water or food to spare and people are desparate. Your neighbors won't even let you step foot on their land.

One could make the case that the family on the other side is infringing on your rights to the available water. Their mere existence is a threat to your very survival. Do you have a right to go try and force your neighbors on the other side of your pond off of their property? Can you use force or the threat of force to get them to leave? Can you kill them if they remain and continue to use the water you need for you and your family to survive?
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JeffB your examples fail logic. - TigerMatt MU - 2/21 19:04:21
          Free course for you - TigerMatt MU - 2/21 21:00:36
               How about a free preview? If you could identify the logical - JeffB MU - 2/21 21:09:33
                    In the first case you failed to mention who owned the - TigerMatt MU - 2/21 21:22:56
                         That was an oversight, not a logical fallacy, of course. - JeffB MU - 2/21 21:48:17
          RE: I was addressing your idea that a mother has a right to kill - pickle MU - 2/21 19:40:24
     he will never, ever understand rights (nm) - pickle MU - 2/21 19:26:01
          Says the guy who thinks a mother has a right to kill her - JeffB MU - 2/21 19:30:27
               ^^ murder and theft are sometimes the decent thing to do - pickle MU - 2/21 19:39:21
                    False premises on your part... again. - JeffB MU - 2/21 19:46:26
                         They aren't false premises - pickle MU - 2/21 19:58:42
                              Of course they are. - JeffB MU - 2/21 20:50:28
                                   They aren't - pickle MU - 2/21 22:12:18
                                        Of course they are. Your ideas on rights are quite twisted.(nm) - JeffB MU - 2/21 22:23:49
                                             They aren't, Jeff (nm) - pickle MU - 2/21 23:53:40
                                                  The truth remains the truth no matter how many times you - JeffB MU - 2/22 07:39:55
                                                       The truth is capital punishment is murder - pickle MU - 2/22 08:14:24
                                                            You still haven't given us your definition of murder pickle(nm) - JeffB MU - 2/22 08:25:27
                                                                 us? And yes, I have - pickle MU - 2/22 08:45:40
                                                                      OK, by your definition then, you support a 'right' to murder - JeffB MU - 2/22 09:04:12
                                                                           No, Jeff. This is your dishonesty again (nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 09:13:52
                                                                                No pickle, that's the blatant truth. (nm) - JeffB MU - 2/22 09:26:57
                                   Anytime someone purposefully takes the life of another - TigerMatt MU - 2/21 21:02:17
                                        By that definition capital punishment is not necessarily - JeffB MU - 2/21 21:33:47
                                             I have never stated abortion is moral. My own morals - TigerMatt MU - 2/21 21:46:20
                                                  But you think murder is immoral, correct? (nm) - JeffB MU - 2/21 21:49:46
                                                       Yes. I believe abortion is immoral too. But my own - TigerMatt MU - 2/21 22:01:32
                                                            On the other hand all laws are imposing a society's will - JeffB MU - 2/21 22:03:57
                                                                 I am not opposed to laws recognizing natural rights. - TigerMatt MU - 2/21 22:11:07
                                        suprise, surprise! Pickletopians once again making up their - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/21 21:21:45
                                             Lol - pickle MU - 2/21 22:07:33
                                             Who grants the authority to make killing someone - TigerMatt MU - 2/21 21:25:35
                                                  If those five people have the authority to make the laws of - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/21 21:34:04
                                                       Killing 6 million Jews was law of the land therefore not - TigerMatt MU - 2/21 21:39:15
                                                            It was not murder under German law at the time. That is why - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/21 21:47:00
                                                                 Have you ever looked at Nuremberg trials? They had no - TigerMatt MU - 2/21 21:55:48
                                                                      Yes, to the victors go the spoils. Are any international - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/21 22:04:47
                                                                           lmfao - pickle MU - 2/21 22:09:20
                                                                      I think it was an attempt to enact God's Law which is - JeffB MU - 2/21 22:02:09
                                                                           As I have said i am personally opposed to abortion. - TigerMatt MU - 2/21 22:16:34
                                                                                Sounds similar to Senator Douglas in his debates with - JeffB MU - 2/21 22:25:31
                                                                                     Slaves did not infringe on rights of slave owners. - TigerMatt MU - 2/21 22:34:28
                                                                                          My point was that made by Lincoln in the Lincoln Douglas - JeffB MU - 2/22 07:48:41
                                                                                               Sometimes murder and theft are the decent thing to do(nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 08:22:14
                                                                                                    Perhaps that IS your belief. After all, you support the - JeffB MU - 2/22 08:29:42
                                                                                                         No, that's what you posted (nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 08:46:12
                                                                                                              No, the record shows that YOU support murder, not I... - JeffB MU - 2/22 09:45:12




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