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Posted on: September 11, 2017 at 14:15:39 CT

FootballRefugee MU

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the protest behavior may have demonstrated some pre-existing locker-room culture problems, for example. Couple that with some down recruiting the first couple years in the SEC and you have a difficult situation.

Odom's problems with Shipp and Cross didn't do him any favors, either, but you have to have talent.

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Are we bad because Odom is a bad coach or because Pinkel - Tiger_1995 MU - 9/11 14:13:05

100% Rhodes.(nm) - Shrine Devine MU

- 9/11 15:01:13

why, because he hired BO? - JoplinTiger07 MU - 9/11 15:12:34

Yes.(nm) - Shrine Devine MU

- 9/11 16:02:24

30% Pinkel. 70% BO. - JoplinTiger07 MU - 9/11 14:52:43

0% Pinkel. 100% Odom. Pinkel raised the program from the - North co-co champs MU - 9/11 14:47:36

What have you done for me lately....(nm) - Shrine Devine MU

- 9/11 15:02:03

Thanks Gary for Lock and Moore! Here's your statue - Diamond Dave MU

- 9/11 14:59:08

and thanks for BO.....get out the chisels....nm - tigertix MU - 9/11 15:08:52

um, a lot of talent graduated from the 2013-15 teams - FootballRefugee MU

- 9/11 14:58:25

The only difference in talent is that Pinkel and his staff.. - North co-co champs MU - 9/11 15:04:48

Explain 2015 after we had won in '13 & '14...should we - tigertix MU - 9/11 15:13:18

2015 was a national champion compared to this disgusting.... - North co-co champs MU - 9/11 15:26:02

Just looked at the '15 record, yes we could have won 8 I - tigertix MU - 9/11 15:33:19

The OL was an absolute mess with guys that either - Diamond Dave MU

- 9/11 15:00:47

While the 2015 defense was good, let's not get crazy - Eggs MU - 9/11 14:53:07

Exactly right. Well said. (nm) - AndyTiger MU

- 9/11 14:51:52

I don't think most people know the history of Mizzou before - North co-co champs MU - 9/11 15:12:35

Yes he accomplished all that you listed but he blew - tigertix MU - 9/11 16:07:49

He was in a no-win situation in 2015 with the entire.. - North co-co champs MU - 9/11 16:31:21

i think had he said i repsect your opinion and right to - blake1771 KC - 9/11 18:40:04

Well said.(nm) - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/11 16:35:27

I'm stunned you even have to post this stuff. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/11 15:21:19

We have BO because of the way GP went out...he gets - tigertix MU - 9/11 14:49:46

Last year's defense was 100% on Odom - Eggs MU - 9/11 14:39:49

Odom fcked up a perfectly good defense - samclemens MU

- 9/11 14:24:25

Don't even start. The story on that is long and sad and none - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/11 14:32:21

there's probably both - FootballRefugee MU

- 9/11 14:15:39

It also illustrates that even with his loyalty, GP has no - hefeweizen MU

- 9/11 14:16:50

Hard to develop a tree when no one leaves. - zodiac6 JC - 9/11 14:22:55

It's not like the coaching bush just stops when Pinkel is - Evenflow MU - 9/11 14:25:09

So does that then mean that GP was the sole genius - Cosmo MU

- 9/11 14:19:22

idk but out of all those guys he had for so long only - hefeweizen MU

- 9/11 14:21:09

Christensen and....? - Cosmo MU

- 9/11 14:22:23

No, not a HC since Wyoming. Believe he was at Utah & then - Gary P. MU - 9/11 14:50:33

and their coach is about to get canned...he is washed-up... - tigertix MU - 9/11 15:07:42

Thanks - Cosmo MU

- 9/11 14:53:22

Painful to watch his sideline interview during the Houston - Gary P. MU - 9/11 15:38:09

Steck. Not counting BO(nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 9/11 14:44:31

Oh - Cosmo MU

- 9/11 14:49:16

you mean there's a middle ground? it's not black and white? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 9/11 14:16:25

Why do you have to go and bring race into it!? (nm) - Cosmo MU

- 9/11 14:18:13

I blame them both. Someone must be blamed! - Cosmo MU

- 9/11 14:15:06

LOL. I was angry all Saturday and Sunday. Better now.(nm) - Tiger_1995 MU - 9/11 14:16:51

If college football makes you literally angry for two days - Gaseous Clay MU - 9/11 14:18:20

or, you need some real adversity in your life to give you - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 9/11 14:21:00

RE: or, you need some real adversity in your life to give you - Gaseous Clay MU - 9/11 14:25:06

haha, exactly - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 9/11 14:34:58

I only lost one ball and shot an 86 on Sunday - Cosmo MU

- 9/11 14:36:23

that would have been no lost balls and a 76 if you just - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 9/11 14:42:15

Oh I was drinking, but I drank a lot this weekend - Cosmo MU

- 9/11 14:48:35

or, it makes you a real SEC football fan(nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 9/11 14:18:56

Thank god I'm not one of those people - Cosmo MU

- 9/11 14:21:00

Is that a euphemism for being emotionally unstable? - Gaseous Clay MU - 9/11 14:20:53

people need to be fired, it shows accountability! - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 9/11 14:15:48

lol yep, and which one depends on which side you want to - Cosmo MU

- 9/11 14:17:08

GP was listless and too loyal because he didn't fire - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 9/11 14:19:19

The decline is all on Pinkel but Odom isn't - SuperTone MU

- 9/11 14:14:42

Both. GP is gone and soon so will BO be(nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 9/11 14:14:32

Yes(nm) - playhard KC - 9/11 14:14:22

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