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RE: Something of a read, but please bear with me...

Posted on: March 25, 2017 at 10:09:09 CT
raskolnikov MU
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There is a great fear I have when something like SS is approached. There are powerful forces in this country who would like to see it dismantled. That scenario you describe has been going on for decades. In the 80s down in FL where I lived my folks and all their retired friends had a good gig going with those SS checks.

However the program has been enormously successful helping the elders who aren't working on their short game in Orlando, the ones who need it to help with housing, food and the cost of living. It is a system we mostly all have contributed to. In that case, it is not per se an "entitlement".

Means-testing is a tricky proposition also, but I would say that IF you are living in some retirement living real well than good FOR YOU. You succeeded - you did great. Maybe in those cases - we arrange for you to get back every dime you put in, but no more than that. And for those - for whom it was designed, the less fortunate, we continue support payments. ALSO - we LIFT THE CAP. Why some schmoe working an assembly job 40 years pays SS tax on every dime of his income while an investment banker pays SS on 10% of his income - ain't right.

Just some thoughts.
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Something of a read, but please bear with me... - molon labe KC - 3/25 09:59:19
     Lol lazy libtards are predictable (nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 3/25 10:55:58
          RE: Lol lazy libtards are predictable (nm) - molon labe KC - 3/25 10:59:28
               Your posts prove your stupidity (nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 3/25 11:02:30
                    RE: Your posts prove your stupidity (nm) - molon labe KC - 3/25 11:04:37
               Dont steal others peoples **** you hack(nm) - MizSecZou MU - 3/25 11:00:33
                    RE: Dont steal others peoples **** you hack(nm) - molon labe KC - 3/25 11:02:30
                         try using the search engine you pos hack(nm) - MizSecZou MU - 3/25 11:03:03
                              RE: try using the search engine you pos hack(nm) - molon labe KC - 3/25 11:08:13
                                   No one claimed that you lazy liberal.. - MizSecZou MU - 3/25 11:09:43
                                        RE: No one claimed that you lazy liberal.. - molon labe KC - 3/25 11:11:36
                                             oh more unoriginal **** from an old hack.. - MizSecZou MU - 3/25 11:13:06
                                                  RE: oh more unoriginal **** from an old hack.. - molon labe KC - 3/25 11:14:39
                                                       you aint got **** thats why.. so run along before - MizSecZou MU - 3/25 11:15:49
     RE: Something of a read, but please bear with me... - MOCO SON MU - 3/25 10:49:35
          PUNISHED ?? - pull your head out of your ass - raskolnikov MU - 3/25 10:53:23
               RE: PUNISHED ?? - pull your head out of your ass - MOCO SON MU - 3/25 11:23:47
                    Thus my suggestion that it could be worked out - raskolnikov MU - 3/25 11:46:24
                         RE: Thus my suggestion that it could be worked out - MOCO SON MU - 3/25 12:02:23
                              True statement(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 3/25 12:08:33
                                   RE: True statement(nm) - MOCO SON MU - 3/25 12:10:45
                                        Yes. That's well known. Reagan was in there too - raskolnikov MU - 3/25 12:51:56
                                             RE: Yes. That's well known. Reagan was in there too - MOCO SON MU - 3/25 14:31:12
                                                  Why did you need an ! on that - raskolnikov MU - 3/25 19:17:36
     So you like the idea of INCREASING forced income - GA Tiger MU - 3/25 10:49:26
          RE: So you like the idea of INCREASING forced income - molon labe KC - 3/25 10:55:22
               Yet, pols must be the ones to do something. First - GA Tiger MU - 3/25 13:40:37
     Means testing is the opposite of what should be done - Ferg STL - 3/25 10:35:04
          Benefits pension plans were done away with long ago. - DC Jayhawk KU - 3/25 11:38:25
               RE: Benefits pension plans were done away with long ago. - MOCO SON MU - 3/25 11:40:12
          RE: Means testing is the opposite of what should be done - MOCO SON MU - 3/25 11:08:49
          There is a very good reason the pensions are so good - raskolnikov MU - 3/25 10:38:19
               that's bull shirt - Ferg STL - 3/25 10:41:06
                    RE: that's bull shirt - MOCO SON MU - 3/25 10:52:18
                         And wouldn't understand anyway.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 3/25 13:43:22
                    RE: that's bull shirt - raskolnikov MU - 3/25 10:48:06
     Entitlements will cause our default. The question is when? - RHAYWORTH MU - 3/25 10:16:28
          RE: Entitlements will cause our default. The question is when? - MOCO SON MU - 3/25 11:02:07
          "And yes, taxes need to be raised." - pickle MU - 3/25 10:27:46
               RE: "And yes, taxes need to be raised." - MOCO SON MU - 3/25 11:03:54
               It's called reality pickle. - RHAYWORTH MU - 3/25 10:30:18
                    Yes, the reality is you constantly defer to bigger gvmt - pickle MU - 3/25 10:31:17
                         You're the idiot who can't accept less govt, only zero govt. - RHAYWORTH MU - 3/25 10:41:57
                              NEWS FLASH: THERE IS NEVER GOING TO BE - Evenflow MU - 3/25 10:52:00
                              The reality is once more, you said you want more taxes - pickle MU - 3/25 10:50:47
          RE: Entitlements will cause our default. The question is when? - molon labe KC - 3/25 10:19:37
               RE: Entitlements will cause our default. The question is when? - MOCO SON MU - 3/25 11:06:32
               figures you dont - MizSecZou MU - 3/25 11:03:50
     It's all about one thing and one thing only - pickle MU - 3/25 10:16:22
     RE: Something of a read, but please bear with me... - raskolnikov MU - 3/25 10:09:09
          I want it eliminated completely - pickle MU - 3/25 10:18:58
               RE: I want it eliminated completely - MOCO SON MU - 3/25 11:16:21
          Name one powerful force who wants to see it - Evenflow MU - 3/25 10:13:48
               RE: Name one powerful force who wants to see it - MOCO SON MU - 3/25 11:20:12
               RE: Name one powerful force who wants to see it - raskolnikov MU - 3/25 10:39:53
     So, if you work hard all your life, spend frugally, invest - hokie VT - 3/25 10:06:56
          RE: So, if you work hard all your life, spend frugally, invest - MOCO SON MU - 3/25 11:27:45
          When I look at my ss statement, I cringe. - RHAYWORTH MU - 3/25 10:20:47
               RE: When I look at my ss statement, I cringe. - MOCO SON MU - 3/25 11:36:18
               Sometimes things are done for the common good not just - raskolnikov MU - 3/25 10:41:18
                    what's the unmotivated bum's contribution to the common good - TigerFan92 MU - 3/25 10:58:17
                         Wow. Poor folks bother you. Just wow(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 3/25 12:09:22
                              He didn't say anything about poor people (nm) - pickle MU - 3/25 12:20:56
                                   OH, he meant the rich unmotivated bums. My bad(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 3/25 12:53:16
                              RE: Wow. Poor folks bother you. Just wow(nm) - MOCO SON MU - 3/25 12:19:49
                    Why do you insist on enabling, encouraging failure? - RHAYWORTH MU - 3/25 10:46:30
                         I reject Social Darwinism. You don't. Fine.(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 3/25 10:49:01
                              no one is calling for Social Darwinism. - pickle MU - 3/25 10:51:43
          No one pays money into social security (nm) - pickle MU - 3/25 10:16:56
               RE: No one pays money into social security (nm) - MOCO SON MU - 3/25 11:29:30
          RE: So, if you work hard all your life, spend frugally, invest - molon labe KC - 3/25 10:10:16
               I did not mean to imply that those were your thoughts. But - hokie VT - 3/25 11:19:01
     Phase out Social Security and Medicare. - Evenflow MU - 3/25 10:06:42
          RE: Phase out Social Security and Medicare. - MOCO SON MU - 3/25 11:31:54
          Spent much time in Calcutta ? - raskolnikov MU - 3/25 10:12:14
               RE: Spent much time in Calcutta ? - MOCO SON MU - 3/25 11:33:28
               You're an idiot (nm) - pickle MU - 3/25 10:17:38
               Wait. Am I the 'powerful force' who wants it dismantled?(nm) - Evenflow MU - 3/25 10:14:36
          i.e., sink the Titanic. (nm) - Evenflow MU - 3/25 10:08:32




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