I asked because of your statement above (and below)

Posted on: February 1, 2017 at 13:02:31 CT

that "no one has the right to initiate..."

So, if that's logically true - then I can only defend myself. Because if you're standing there and 90Tiger decides to initiate force on me, by the very words of your post, "no one has the right"....I can only defend myself and you have no right to defend me.

So, substitute countries or governments or groups for the individuals. Does the U.S. have the right to defend refugees from the threat of initiated physical harm from others? - Set aside whether you think we're the root cause of that threat through other actions - that gets into a convoluted history and actions and reactions -

Isn't the current refugee situation akin to the intiation of force to defend a person/group from physical harm being inflicted upon them by another group?

So that was my question and why it was posed to you.