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yes, such as the program's resources, competition, injuries

Posted on: January 13, 2017 at 12:28:55 CT
Fire Marshall Bill STL
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where the program was when he took over, and many, many other things

I'm glad you now understand why tying personal qualities to accomplishments is silly

Edited by Fire Marshall Bill at 12:29:19 on 01/13/17
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Encouraging article on how Clemson stopped being mediocre - ZouAtl MU - 1/13 10:05:52
     Which is what we should have done. (nm) - zounami MU - 1/13 22:54:44
          Exactly. Hire a coach who will win a NC. Brilliant! (nm) - Ancient Arizonan MU - 1/14 15:51:30
     Tommy Bowden started as coach in 2008. When he was fired, - Truthful KC - 1/13 12:35:55
          RE: Tommy Bowden started as coach in 2008. When he was fired, - Ragarm MU - 1/13 12:45:52
               that long of a drought? - phrejd MU - 1/13 12:53:28
                    Clemson is a better football school in general. It's really - TheWildcat STL - 1/13 13:18:20
                         And until this year the ACC was an A$$ football conference - JayHoaxH8r MU - 1/13 23:37:16
     RE: Encouraging article on how Clemson stopped being mediocre - bstiger MU - 1/13 11:55:45
     I had no idea Dabo had been there since '08. So, they gave - Fool on the Hill MU - 1/13 11:18:02
          Regardless of the pitchfork and torch crowd - Diamond Dave MU - 1/13 11:19:28
               I agree you just have to be patient - MakeShift MU - 1/13 11:45:17
                    no, read-and-react is normal - FootballRefugee MU - 1/13 13:17:28
                         #BarneyFife(nm) - STL1DFW STL - 1/15 07:42:44
                         Good points - MakeShift MU - 1/13 13:28:31
                              Not really. We had NFL-caliber guys on the DL - Diamond Dave MU - 1/13 13:40:34
                                   Our linebackers were terrible for the most part - MakeShift MU - 1/13 14:46:13
                                        Harris, first rounder. Augusta will play in the NFL. TBJ - Diamond Dave MU - 1/13 15:23:28
                                             Not buying it - MakeShift MU - 1/13 16:44:38
     who was 6-7 in his first year and a lot of people - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/13 11:07:11
          BO will be fine as he refines his coaching staff and if he - MU-TULSA MU - 1/14 10:01:52
          Agreed. - Evenflow MU - 1/13 11:24:16
               Clemson has many recruiting advantages over Mizzou - FootballRefugee MU - 1/13 13:15:56
               you are struggling to separate personal qualities - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/13 11:54:23
                    Oh, I'm not struggling to separate anything here. - Evenflow MU - 1/13 12:11:40
                         yeah, you are making a completely different argument - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/13 12:13:16
                              I'm assessing your 'argument' from its subconscious roots. - Evenflow MU - 1/13 12:14:42
                                   accomplishments are totally independent of personal - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/13 12:22:11
                                        Agreed that there are many variable in play here - Evenflow MU - 1/13 12:25:54
                                             #BarneyFife(nm) - STL1DFW STL - 1/15 07:43:10
                                             yes, such as the program's resources, competition, injuries - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/13 12:28:55
                                                  Well, looks like my work is done here. - Evenflow MU - 1/13 12:30:35
                                                       You really put him in his place - Gaseous Clay MU - 1/13 13:07:49
                                                            Agree, he really put the screws to me there - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/13 16:38:17
                                                       RE: Well, looks like my work is done here. - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/13 12:36:39
          People were *****ing on here after the first 2 series of - Diamond Dave MU - 1/13 11:14:02
          I agree - FootballRefugee MU - 1/13 11:11:27
               high energy, resilient, good manager of people, intelligent - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/13 12:23:39
                    he was an effective recruiting coordinator - FootballRefugee MU - 1/13 13:22:31
                    "good manager of people" might not be completely accurate. - phrejd MU - 1/13 12:49:08
                         Odom stumbled with Shipp and Cross - FootballRefugee MU - 1/13 13:15:03
     It certainly helps. Had 'Bama had a decent QB - Diamond Dave MU - 1/13 10:45:55
          Lack of running game doomed Bama the most. If Scarbrough - Truthful KC - 1/13 12:37:32
               RE: Lack of running game doomed Bama the most. If Scarbrough - sarasotatiger MU - 1/14 08:01:46
          very possible - FootballRefugee MU - 1/13 11:15:55
               Yeah, very hard to maintain defensive dominance when - Diamond Dave MU - 1/13 11:17:59
                    It's not always T.O.P., for sure - FootballRefugee MU - 1/13 11:19:32
                         True, just pointing out one of the deficiencies in that - Diamond Dave MU - 1/13 11:20:47
                              it sure was. - FootballRefugee MU - 1/13 11:29:06
          RE: It certainly helps. Had 'Bama had a decent QB - MOCO SON MU - 1/13 11:00:43
               To an extent, but previous 'Bama QBs have also passed - Diamond Dave MU - 1/13 11:17:09
                    All that and pick plays became legal - STRIPES - 1/13 12:18:57
                         Ding ding. 2 Clemson scores came directly on pick plays. - sprintcar STL - 1/13 13:44:00
          Bama defense is the reason they lost - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/13 10:55:24
               That's a valid point, but as pointed out above - Diamond Dave MU - 1/13 11:18:29




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