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Anyone can make up a story to justify stand your ground,

Posted on: January 2, 2017 at 20:48:42 CT
SparkyStalcup MU
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Just ask George Zimmerman.

Of course, if you're black woman whose life is actually in jeopardy, you apparently can't use stand your ground, at least not in Florida. I'd like to think Missouri is more enlightened than that, but I get proved wrong on that every day.
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Can anyone open carry in Missouri now?(nm) - AllThingsKC KC - 1/2 20:08:42
     Probably not convicts(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/2 20:51:39
     I would much rather carry concealed. - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/2 20:34:18
          Can people conceal carry in MO without a permit now?(nm) - AllThingsKC KC - 1/2 20:52:50
               Yes. With certain restrictions. - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/2 21:08:58
                    Oh those KU Med Nazis are gonna luv that - Uncle Fester USMC - 1/2 21:16:26
               Some people, yes(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 1/2 20:54:31
     I just assume that everyone is packing. Looking into - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 20:13:57
          You could do body armor with the ballistic steel plates - Uncle Fester USMC - 1/2 21:14:02
               Ceramic is where it's at.... - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/2 21:20:05
                    I gots the steel on ebay and the real deal - Uncle Fester USMC - 1/2 21:24:40
          Lol. Please wear Kevlar everywhere. (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/2 20:38:32
               It's the price I'll have to pay for "freedom" nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 20:50:32
                    No, it is the price you'll have to pay for being a pussy. (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/2 20:51:14
                         Nice ad hom. I thought you were above such things. nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 20:52:32
                              he didn't attack you over an argument, good grief, sparky - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 08:43:28
                              That's not an hominem. That's just calling you a name. - ummmm MU - 1/2 20:54:47
                                   It's an ad hominem, and not a particularly creative one. - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 20:58:26
                                        it wasn't an ad hom (nm) - pickle MU - 1/2 21:29:49
                                        RE: It's an ad hominem, and not a particularly creative one. - ummmm MU - 1/2 21:02:27
                                             Now you're just lying about why you used the ad hominem - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 21:03:27
                                                  Read and learn what I wrote. - ummmm MU - 1/2 21:06:29
                                                       Name calling used in order to discredit the opponent - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 21:10:31
                                                            no sparky, just no. ad hom is a fallacy in which someone - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 08:49:17
                                                            "in order to discredit their argument" - ummmm MU - 1/2 21:13:23
          Just stay away from gun-free zones and you will be fine - Fourth and Long MU - 1/2 20:37:29
          Ever see a picture of a "save" from a Kevlar vest? - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/2 20:29:42
               Broken ribs are better than exploded organs. nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 20:35:16
                    I'm not saying it's not better than getting shot, but the - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/2 20:36:43
                         No question. It's not perfect protection from such a - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 20:38:29
                              They should make it illegal to shoot people. - Emoji Man MSU - 1/2 20:40:44
                                   Stand your ground makes it legal to shoot people. nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 20:42:21
                                        Only if one reasonably believes their life or property is in - hefeweizen MU - 1/2 20:44:55
                                             Anyone can make up a story to justify stand your ground, - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 20:48:42
                                                  I can't tell from this post... are you or are you not in - ummmm MU - 1/2 20:56:37
                                                       Not in favor. Clearly. Honestly, I'm not sure why - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 21:02:48
                                                            It just appeared like you were lamenting the lack of its use - ummmm MU - 1/2 21:04:50
                                                                 I am lamenting its non-use in her case, but only because - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 21:12:07
                                                                      But you don't like the law, at all. - ummmm MU - 1/2 21:15:52
                                                                           Right. But if it exists, it should be evenly applied. nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 21:18:34
                                                                                So, if you perceive a law to be bad, - ummmm MU - 1/2 21:35:55
                                                                      They should. We have found common ground(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 1/2 21:14:51
                                                                           Now stand it. (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/2 21:16:12
                                                  It amazes me how much you dont know and what you believe(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 1/2 20:51:20
                                                       Why would I assume that a felon isn't carrying? nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 20:53:13
                                                            Did you assume it before yesterday?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 1/2 20:55:11
                                                                 Of course. But now I also assume that stupid people - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 20:56:13
                                                                      Nothing stopped those people you call stupid before did it?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 1/2 20:58:01
                                                            What law would stop it? - tman KC - 1/2 20:54:33
          why?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 1/2 20:15:30
               Protection. If folks feel like they guns to protect - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 20:17:06
                    Lawful gun owners are the least of your worries. I'd be - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/2 20:26:12
                         Anyone in Missouri can legally conceal carry now...you - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 20:37:13
                              Incorrect. Certain restrictions still apply. Like being at - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/2 21:13:55
                              Incorrect(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 1/2 20:38:22
                                   Correct. Links.... - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 20:40:51
                                        Incorrect. You are lying. Felons cannot carry in MO(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 1/2 20:42:08
                                             Amendment 5 took care of that, except that Missouri - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 20:46:37
                                                  Apology accepted for lying.(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 1/2 20:47:43
                                                       I'm not sure who you accepted in from. No apology here.... - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 20:49:55
                                                            Well, you did say "anyone". (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/2 20:53:08
                                                            You admitted to lying. I fogive you nonetheless(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 1/2 20:52:08
                                                                 No such admission was made, but I acccept your apology - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 20:56:47
                                                                      You said anyone. That was a lie then provided the links - hefeweizen MU - 1/2 21:00:02
                                                                           It just means that I was unaware of the Missouri SC - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 21:13:37
                                                                                That ignorance on your part was the crux of your post. - hefeweizen MU - 1/2 21:16:55
                                                                                     Actually, it wasn't the crux. If I said "nearly everyone" - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 21:19:59
                                                                                          But you didn't say "nearly everyone". That's the point. - ummmm MU - 1/2 21:39:19
                                                                                               tonight? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 09:46:15
                                        Again you don't give all the facts - tman KC - 1/2 20:41:57
                                             Carry and purchase are two different things. Felons cant - hefeweizen MU - 1/2 20:43:03
                                                  Since guns are so prevalent and available darn near - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 20:52:05
                                                       What stops them now? The law? The only thing that will - hefeweizen MU - 1/2 20:53:56
                                                  Agree. (nm) - tman KC - 1/2 20:44:35
                    Ah ok. You aren't prevented that I know of from - tman KC - 1/2 20:19:56
                    Silly liberal. You planning on threatening people with - hefeweizen MU - 1/2 20:18:50
                         I fail to see how my Kevlar threatens anyone. If I wanted - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 20:20:24
                              You would use it to bludgeon. Not protect yourself?(nm) - tman KC - 1/2 20:23:04
                                   You asked if I was going to threaten anyone. I fail to - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 20:25:26
                                        Check again. I did not ask that. LINK IT - tman KC - 1/2 20:28:30
                                             Still waiting(nm) - tman KC - 1/2 20:33:27
                                                  Should I take a break while you look for my post - tman KC - 1/2 20:35:49
                                                       Still waiting. You can admit your mistake any time(nm) - tman KC - 1/2 20:40:55
                                                            Come on. I am tired of calling you out - tman KC - 1/2 20:47:34
                              Just stay out of heavy democrat urban areas and you'll be - hefeweizen MU - 1/2 20:21:15
                                   I'm far worse off in a public school or a movie theater. nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 20:23:49
                                        Why? There's a sign that says you can't have a gun in those - hefeweizen MU - 1/2 20:26:18
                                        Gun free zones? Why do you need Kevlar there?(nm) - tman KC - 1/2 20:24:58
                                             I'm more likely to go to those places than to a red state - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 20:34:14
                                                  Your stats include accidental discharge and self-inflicted - ummmm MU - 1/2 20:44:02
                                                       Of course. Concealed carry increases the likelihood of such - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 20:55:20
                                                            Yeah, but you personally should not have to worry - ummmm MU - 1/2 20:58:02
                                                                 I don't need to carry a weapon, and won't carry one, so - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 21:07:38
                                                                      Can you post a link of where an accidental discharge killed - ummmm MU - 1/2 21:08:38
                                                                           This was in the CU Dental School - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 21:31:51
                                                                                Looking for "deaths". Remember this subthread is about - ummmm MU - 1/2 21:33:43
                                                                           And remember this thread is about YOU not going to - ummmm MU - 1/2 21:10:01
                                                  Why don't you post the link - tman KC - 1/2 20:39:57
                                                  Do those numbers include suicides? Where's Illanoy?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 1/2 20:39:37
                                                       Yes, they do. Wyoming has around 20 murders a year - ummmm MU - 1/2 20:44:38
                                                            How convenient. He's so dishonest(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 1/2 20:46:19
                                                                 I said GUN DEATHS, not murders. Sheesh. There are more - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/2 21:39:40
                                                                      You also understand where there are legal guns - tman KC - 1/2 21:58:58
                                                                 He doesn't want to discuss what he really wants - tman KC - 1/2 20:55:54
                                                       You want all of the facts? - tman KC - 1/2 20:40:26
                                                            He lied through his teeth above(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 1/2 20:41:14
                                                                 Both of them. One upper and one lower(nm) - tman KC - 1/2 20:42:26
                                             Seriously....they are clearly marked. - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/2 20:28:16
                                                  Exactly. So why Kevlar in those places? You are good there - tman KC - 1/2 20:29:55
     No. (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 1/2 20:12:34




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