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Posted on: December 12, 2016 at 14:11:38 CT

Spanky KU

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I would not want to be the pilot in a 1978 vintage F18 being asked to operate against 2010-2016 era air defences...

The majority of warfare is not done by drones....

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surely all of us can get behind @realDonaldTrump's latest - blake1771 KC - 12/12 13:18:01

F-35s are not something we need to be producing in - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 13:19:20

Dumb lib do research then come back. Hint 22 vs 35 (nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 12/13 04:44:53

10 - Rabbit Test MU - 12/12 15:09:07

Bring back the F-4 Phantom. Tried and true. Tested in - Tigrrrr! MU

- 12/12 16:54:01

The F35 is not the prototypical dogfight aircraft - tman KC - 12/12 15:00:34

Hold hands and sing about peace. - Coors4bob MU - 12/12 14:14:47

These types of programs are not for the jobs. (nm) - ummmm MU - 12/12 13:53:13

I guess I just meant war machines in general - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 14:00:37

"These types of programs are not for the jobs." (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/12 14:25:06

Jesus... (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/12 13:30:55

Lol(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 12/12 13:31:55

The F-35 is a 'multi-role aircraft' (ground attack and - Spanky KU - 12/12 13:26:07

they aren't for dogfighting - FootballRefugee MU

- 12/12 13:24:42

We have drones and cruise missiles. Why do we need - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 13:26:00

another false basis - FootballRefugee MU

- 12/12 13:27:59

You didn't tell me why we need them. - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 13:36:23

Here you go.... - Spanky KU - 12/12 13:52:01

F-15 and F-18 are decades old platforms. The idea was to - TigerMatt STL - 12/12 13:46:18

Stealth and advanced avionics being key to that transition - Spanky KU - 12/12 13:57:31

Even without the F-35 we'll have air superiority still - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 13:48:37

As airframes age, the maintenance costs skyrocket. The F-35 - TigerMatt STL - 12/12 13:57:56

He is crazy if he thinks 1978 era aircraft perform better - Spanky KU - 12/12 13:59:17

I wasn't trying to argue that 40 year old aircraft were - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 14:01:49

Bueno.... - Spanky KU - 12/12 14:11:38

Drones and cruose missiles do not take out aircraft in - TigerMatt STL - 12/12 14:03:31

I understand the principle need for fighter planes - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 14:06:04

The Syrians are defended by Russian aircraft... - Spanky KU - 12/12 14:23:42

We aren't currently attacking Syria or Iran though - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 14:58:55

We PLAN for future threats..not react to them. - Spanky KU - 12/12 15:21:43

The DoD wants to stay ahead in technology, not wait for - TigerMatt STL - 12/12 14:18:48

Proxy countries such as Iran will have an air force. - Coors4bob MU - 12/12 14:18:15

And SAM technology improvements need to be counteracted.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/12 14:01:39

This is another good reason, thank you - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 14:03:16

Recent wars used missiles from ships to soften the "enemy" - TigerMatt STL - 12/12 14:07:18

Close air support is still needed for 'boots on the ground' - Spanky KU - 12/12 14:48:02

On 23 September 2014, F-22s performed the type's first - Spanky KU - 12/12 13:55:28

I guess that's why you aren't in the decision process - Spanky KU - 12/12 13:27:50

I'm no fan of the F35 but it isn't for dogfighting missions(nm) - SuperTone MU

- 12/12 13:23:30

Okay so it's for ground attacks. But still. Why do we need - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 13:25:05

not correct either. It is supposed to be the swiss army - SuperTone MU

- 12/12 13:27:03

Just for non-interventionist DJT to not use right? (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 13:33:04

The maturity of this lets me know you can't be very old. - Coors4bob MU - 12/12 14:20:14

is the US "using" its nuclear capabilities? - 90Tiger MU - 12/12 13:59:24

do you carry a gun to use it?(nm) - SuperTone MU

- 12/12 13:35:14