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Posted on: October 20, 2016 at 12:25:40 CT
hefeweizen MU
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admitted, it does nothing to curb gun violence. Only a ban and confiscation would. That's why we say she is being disingenuous. She either knows it would do nothing and is using it as just an appeal to emotion to get elected OR she has other intentions like repeal and confiscation.

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The uterus fully supports the second amendment. With - hokie VT - 10/20 12:01:01
     too bad she has been caught before saying she - SuperTone MU - 10/20 12:14:44
     she may be pro 2nd amm. but her executive orders and - SEC_BIG_GAMEHUNTER MU - 10/20 12:13:19
     toddlers ok..3rd trimester babies--not so much.... - SEC_BIG_GAMEHUNTER MU - 10/20 12:12:11
          Don't be silly - Mormad MU - 10/20 12:14:29
               true--but here is some scissor action... - SEC_BIG_GAMEHUNTER MU - 10/20 13:04:17
     She lies through her teeth with no remorse.. like Obama. See - JeffB MU - 10/20 12:09:20
          Did Joan Rivers tell you that?(nm) - jeepdad MU - 10/20 12:11:06
               Do you disagree that Hillary lies very frequently, even unde - JeffB MU - 10/20 12:16:00
               Do you believe Joan Rivers is a liar? If so, on what grounds - JeffB MU - 10/20 12:14:34
     90% of American support universal background checks - MrBlueSky MU - 10/20 12:02:13
          Mr blew guys, what is a universal background check and - hokie VT - 10/20 12:03:57
               Anytime you purchase a gun, be it from a dealer, online - MrBlueSky MU - 10/20 12:07:18
                    why?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 10/20 12:09:40
                         Ideally, to prevent those who have - MrBlueSky MU - 10/20 12:13:31
                              Do those "lost" civil rights include the right to life and - hefeweizen MU - 10/20 12:16:10
                                   Well certainly. (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 10/20 12:18:28
                                        I think the courts have vehemently and consistently diagreed - hefeweizen MU - 10/20 12:20:04
                              Hold on. What other constitutional rights - tman KC - 10/20 12:15:50
                                   Voting and gun ownership are the only two I can think of (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 10/20 12:17:33
                                        Why should they be treated any differently then other rights - tman KC - 10/20 12:18:29
                                             I guess as a society we have deemed those two rights - MrBlueSky MU - 10/20 12:24:12
                                                  wait, so if youhad your way, these reformed criminals would - hefeweizen MU - 10/20 12:26:50
                                                       Did I include ex-cons who had finished their sentences - MrBlueSky MU - 10/20 12:31:17
                                                            Sure read that way. - hefeweizen MU - 10/20 12:34:25
                                                                 Oh I thought you meant my original post about keeping - MrBlueSky MU - 10/20 12:42:49
                    If you buy from a friend or family member? If you - hokie VT - 10/20 12:08:54
                         The idea of universal checks is to prevent those who - MrBlueSky MU - 10/20 12:12:00
                              Then is it universal or not? What's so hard to understand?* - hokie VT - 10/20 12:20:30
                              lol, not likely? How about, they arent. Btw, say I pass - hefeweizen MU - 10/20 12:15:00
                                   I can see your point on background checks - meatiger MU - 10/20 12:23:50
                                        Bottom line on background checks is they do nothing. - hefeweizen MU - 10/20 12:28:58
                                             Maybe do this - meatiger MU - 10/20 12:57:47
                                                  That's my main point. It's too easy to get a gun in America - MrBlueSky MU - 10/20 13:01:16
                              I thought we did that already, it was amazing the hoops I - Savage MU - 10/20 12:14:33
                                   If you buy from a dealer, pawn shop, or other similar - MrBlueSky MU - 10/20 12:16:07
                                        I can avoid them by answering a craigslist ad too. It is - hefeweizen MU - 10/20 12:17:54
                                             The majority of murders/mass shootings are done with - MrBlueSky MU - 10/20 12:20:49
                                                  Thanks, you just proved my point that backgroud checks - hefeweizen MU - 10/20 12:21:58
                                                       In general, an appeal to emotion is a powerful argumentative - MrBlueSky MU - 10/20 12:23:06
                                                            No disagreement there, it is effective but as you just - hefeweizen MU - 10/20 12:25:40
                                                                 I guess I disagree with the premise that it would have no - MrBlueSky MU - 10/20 12:29:41
                                                                      You just agreed that it would have no real impact plus - hefeweizen MU - 10/20 12:33:58
                                                                           I said that the majority of murders/mass shootings are done - MrBlueSky MU - 10/20 12:36:03
                                                                                Legally purchased. Meaning, background checks - hefeweizen MU - 10/20 12:37:36
                                                                                     Fair point but correct me if I'm wrong, currently an FBI - MrBlueSky MU - 10/20 12:41:56
                                                            It is if you want to actually accomplish something - tman KC - 10/20 12:24:05
          I could care less - El-ahrairah KC - 10/20 12:03:40
               not to totalitarians like bluesky - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 10/20 12:06:21
                    Lol that's a new one, never been called that before - MrBlueSky MU - 10/20 12:07:52
          Highly doubt 90% of America supports this. (nm) - Evenflow MU - 10/20 12:03:38
               Okay 89%. Look at #67 - MrBlueSky MU - 10/20 12:05:53
                    Highly doubt 50%+ of gun owners support a nationwide - Evenflow MU - 10/20 12:07:56
                         Well just go back to saying all polls are bull**** then and - MrBlueSky MU - 10/20 12:08:28
                              I have no idea who these 1,000 folks they polled are. - Evenflow MU - 10/20 12:10:59
                                   It said it was a national poll of registered voters... (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 10/20 12:14:41
                                        I always read the fine print and also check for motive. (nm) - Evenflow MU - 10/20 12:16:27
                                             Nothing wrong with that but I don't know if there's any - MrBlueSky MU - 10/20 12:25:48
     Sad - El-ahrairah KC - 10/20 12:02:12




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