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I think many made an initial false assumption

Posted on: September 23, 2016 at 14:55:19 CT
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I know I did. Of Kim's CMSU tenure, I watched the game they played against us at Mizzou Arena and their national championship game. That is really it from a direct observation perspective.

I felt that despite some known detriments and limitations, there were strengths in other areas that would offset those in the short term and Kim would come in prepared and leverage some of the inherited assets for some initial marginal success. I think most expected a slight tactical improvement over Haith, and a better quality of play and effort.

Here are the D2 statistical rankings in the various categories from Kim's national championship winning team. They are ok, but certainly don't scream 'well coached'.

2013-14
PPG (68)
PPG Allowed (44)
Scoring Margin (14)
FG % (19)
FG% Allowed (30)
3 Pters (165)
3 Pt % (88)
3 Pt % Allowed (43)
FT % (229)
Rebound Margin (31)
Assists (161)
Assist/Turnover (46)
Blocks (123)
Steals (179)
Turnovers (19)
Turnover Margin (32)
Fouls (231)

Here they are from the 3 years before that, it appears we pretty much got a slightly above avg DII coach (on top of the known recruiting limitations).

2012-13
PPG (42)
PPG Allowed (144)
Scoring Margin (38)
FG % (78)
FG% Allowed (93)
3 Pters (119)
3 Pt % (100)
3 Pt % Allowed (155)
FT % (173)
Rebound Margin (88)
Assists (118)
Assist/Turnover (45)
Blocks (141)
Steals (137)
Turnovers (31)
Turnover Margin (63)
Fouls (113)

2011-12
PPG (61)
PPG Allowed (72)
Scoring Margin (22)
FG % (39)
FG% Allowed (57)
3 Pters (187)
3 Pt % (81)
3 Pt % Allowed (45)
FT % (46)
Rebound Margin (63)
Assists (93)
Assist/Turnover (75)
Blocks (124)
Steals (137)
Turnovers (80)
Turnover Margin (98)
Fouls (34)

2010-11
PPG (116)
PPG Allowed (89)
Scoring Margin (76)
FG % (139)
FG% Allowed (57)
3 Pters (135)
3 Pt % (102)
3 Pt % Allowed (130)
FT % (134)
Rebound Margin (56)
Assists (151)
Assist/Turnover (66)
Blocks (91)
Steals (264)
Turnovers (31)
Turnover Margin (163)
Fouls (110)
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I think many made an initial false assumption - FIJItiger MU - 9/23 14:55:19
     not really an elite set of stats - Rabbit Test MU - 9/26 06:01:18
     A national championship screams well coached - hou4mu MU - 9/23 22:55:47
          RE: A national championship screams well coached - BuckTurgidson KU - 9/24 09:22:15
               In fairness... - Lakers_Ball UK - 9/26 13:43:33
     How many teams were in D2 each of those years?nm - tiger4real MU - 9/23 16:43:00
          Roughly 300 (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 9/23 17:10:11
               Your conclusion is unfounded. - tiger4real MU - 9/23 18:48:17
                    But they weren't top 10 in ANYTHING!!! (nm) - haeffb MU - 9/23 19:29:12
               Did you ever dunk on a 10 ft goal? - Mr. Orange SU - 9/23 17:22:03
                    he could barely make a layup - Jeff85 MU - 9/24 21:23:04
                    yes(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 9/24 05:57:17
                         The question was for Fiji - Mr. Orange SU - 9/24 06:55:02
          A lot(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 9/23 16:53:08
     My vote for - chokingmychickenhawk MU - 9/23 16:34:08
     Obviously the national championship trumps the stats - MUIntensity USA - 9/23 16:06:40
     How many times have you posted these numbers? - zodiac6 JC - 9/23 15:53:17
          That is my point, he needs to give it a rest (nm) - TheLegend MU - 9/23 16:21:22
          6 or 7 I think. (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 9/23 15:57:59
               He didn't ask for your IQ(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 9/23 16:39:56
          I haven't seen them. I stop reading when he says - Mr. Orange SU - 9/23 15:54:33
     Nobody cares - Mr. Orange SU - 9/23 15:43:38
     FIJtiger is my all time favorite poster - Wibb MU - 9/23 15:37:56
          I readily admit - FIJItiger MU - 9/23 15:42:34
     Nothing I like more than a shot a the tittle. And - Ray-tiger MU - 9/23 15:11:02
     Will you ever give it a rest? - TheLegend MU - 9/23 15:03:48
          Probably not (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 9/23 15:07:32
               Incredibly sad (nm) - Cosmo MU - 9/23 16:44:02
               Just really tiresome (nm) - TheLegend MU - 9/23 15:09:20
                    Wish there was more relevant MU bb related topics for - FIJItiger MU - 9/23 15:20:49
                         We just signed a solid guard and had two big time 18s visit - TheLegend MU - 9/23 15:29:53
                              He wants to make his miserable narrative is easy to be seen - MizzouTigerz MU - 9/24 02:09:06
                              I guess I just can't delude myself into that perspective - FIJItiger MU - 9/23 15:36:58
                                   **** poor attitude, are you 12?(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 9/23 16:44:31
                                   Because you know nothing about basketball - Mr. Orange SU - 9/23 16:03:26
                         Here is a novel idea. - John Murdoch MU - 9/23 15:24:22
                              He's just trying to drum up traffic. - Tiger Max MU - 9/23 15:42:25
                              that is why I said probably not, track record would - FIJItiger MU - 9/23 15:26:50
     4 final fours over his last 8 years isn't average - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/23 15:01:19
          The basic thing he did was pull in key transfers - - tigerdb MU - 9/23 15:28:31
               There were teams more talented than that UCM team btw, - nerdmachine KC - 9/24 00:01:34
                    haha - tigerdb MU - 9/24 05:57:34
               Robinson visited MU the same weekend as - FIJItiger MU - 9/23 15:32:38
                    he wouldn't have been nearly as impactful in a major cbb - tigerdb MU - 9/23 15:36:41
          If you ever want to be an AD who makes bad bb hiring - FIJItiger MU - 9/23 15:04:22
               Like Howland + his baggage* - TigerFan92 MU - 9/23 16:40:36
                    No, he would have been an obvious and strong hire - FIJItiger MU - 9/23 17:08:47
                         fat dumb and stupid is no way to go through life - TigerFan92 MU - 9/23 18:23:16
               consistent postseason success also how his teams played - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/23 15:09:38




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