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Agree completely. Also, the guys that left were not good

Posted on: July 22, 2016 at 11:16:21 CT
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With the exception of J3, none of them were highly sought after by anyone after transferring, and J3 will likely be a minor contributor at Gonzaga. Isabel, Allen, Gant and Wright SUCKED. Maybe it was their attitude, maybe it was team chemistry, maybe it was coaching...or just maybe, recruiting stars are next to meaningless and these guys were not good college basketball players. That would be the most likely explanation, given what I saw of their play with my own eyes. They aren't very good basketball players. (I give Teki a pass due to his back injury).

Gant and Isabel showed glimpses, and it would be nice to have Gant on the bench, but they got outplayed by unheralded freshmen for crying out loud. Good riddance.

Edited by MUIntensity at 11:37:26 on 07/22/16
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The most telling statement from the Matter chat. - MizzouTigerz MU - 7/22 09:18:53
     The improvement of the sophomores will really be the main - mizzoudiehard MU - 7/22 11:34:35
          I agree that it is a good nucleus - MUIntensity USA - 7/22 11:39:50
               RE: I agree that it is a good nucleus - Tgrweir MU - 7/22 12:50:57
     Agree completely. Also, the guys that left were not good - MUIntensity USA - 7/22 11:16:21
          RE: Agree completely. Also, the guys that left were not good - Tgrweir MU - 7/22 13:08:49
               RE: Agree completely. Also, the guys that left were not good - Tgrweir MU - 7/22 13:12:34
          Disagree - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 11:45:50
     From Matter during last summer: - StaleyTiger MU - 7/22 09:41:11
          And it was. Chemistry last year was better than the - alwaysright MU - 7/22 12:26:38
          Big difference between sharing his personal opinion versus - HissingPrigs77 MU - 7/22 10:06:32
          So that means either chemistry was really bad - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 09:50:25
               RE: So that means either chemistry was really bad - stl0404 MU - 7/22 10:13:13
                    They were competitive in most games throughout the year... - catbirdseat MU - 7/22 11:11:27
                         RE: They were competitive in most games throughout the year... - stl0404 MU - 7/22 11:48:09
                              weren't very competitive either year - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 11:54:33
                    I don't think that is true at all - FIJItiger MU - 7/22 10:42:34
                         RE: I don't think that is true at all - Tgrweir MU - 7/22 13:14:56
                         the level of effort and intensity on the floor has never - catbirdseat MU - 7/22 11:10:10
                              The win over LSU in his first season (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 7/22 11:23:18
                                   74-67 overtime victory in the SEC opener - catbirdseat MU - 7/22 11:38:53
                              I told you we should have hired Floyd Irons.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 7/22 11:16:05
                         No it wasn't, it was horrible. It wasn't good last year, - Uncle John MU - 7/22 10:48:55
                              His first year the team quit, but at least they still had - FIJItiger MU - 7/22 10:54:09
                                   OK(nm) - Uncle John MU - 7/22 11:01:50
                    They weren't competitive in most games last year. - tgr MU - 7/22 10:17:44
               It seems like Kim is really good about making excuses as to - StaleyTiger MU - 7/22 09:55:51
               No, it indicates that a pattern has developed - FIJItiger MU - 7/22 09:52:58
                    RE: No, it indicates that a pattern has developed - Tgrweir MU - 7/22 13:19:32
                         I find it amazing too, would not have thought it to be true(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 7/22 14:52:51
                              Psssst - MizzouTigerz MU - 7/22 15:37:26
                    and then - chokingmychickenhawk MU - 7/22 10:20:18
                         No, that was last year. We are completely cratered now(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 7/22 10:34:22
                              Cratered alert - MizzouTigerz MU - 7/22 11:34:41
                              You think Kim has put the shovel down?(nm) - tigerdb MU - 7/22 11:16:45
                                   No, he recruited additional players...(nm) - catbirdseat MU - 7/22 12:15:22
                    It seems to be the pattern. Hope springs eternal in the - StaleyTiger MU - 7/22 09:59:27
                         Wrights efficiency ratings from - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 10:02:54
                              The transfer that really hurt then is - FIJItiger MU - 7/22 10:39:25
                                   RE: The transfer that really hurt then is - Tgrweir MU - 7/22 13:21:31
                                   there is a minimum amount of time a player has to play - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 10:52:59
                              According to this, Walton had a lower efficiency rating - StaleyTiger MU - 7/22 10:12:16
                                   Change the view to efficiency - haeffb MU - 7/22 10:25:48
                                        I was talking about Namon's efficiency rating from his - StaleyTiger MU - 7/22 10:29:23
                                             lol(nm) - Uncle John MU - 7/22 10:41:22
                                   We are using different definitions of efficiency - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 10:20:42
                                        Well then Adam Wolf or Jimmy Barton were pretty good if - StaleyTiger MU - 7/22 10:27:12
                                             Those efficiency stats are widely accepted in both the NBA - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 10:36:16
                    I have heard from a few insiders - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 09:55:38
                         RE: I have heard from a few insiders - Tgrweir MU - 7/22 13:23:38
                         Hindsights 20/20. He should have booted Allen, Wright, and - Uncle John MU - 7/22 10:22:11
                              RE: Hindsights 20/20. He should have booted Allen, Wright, and - Tgrweir MU - 7/22 13:34:21
                         Possibly, but I personally don't believe that - FIJItiger MU - 7/22 10:03:56
                              Once again your clairvoyance continues to amaze. How you can - MizzouTigerz MU - 7/22 14:04:57
                              RE: Possibly, but I personally don't believe that - Tgrweir MU - 7/22 13:31:48
          OK it's clear KA is not a Chemical Engineer - mu7176grad MU - 7/22 09:42:55
     It's always helpful when the coach's favorite players - tigerdb MU - 7/22 09:36:20
          J3 was a coaches guy - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 09:38:43
     Making the Tournament with our non-con would require - Evenflow MU - 7/22 09:35:34
     He never says he's hopeful about Mizzou - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 09:33:15
          His view is also from an appreciative angle - tigerdb MU - 7/22 09:38:32
     As he indicates, he is hopeful they can - FIJItiger MU - 7/22 09:29:30
     Was Matter allowed this kind of access last summer? - tgr MU - 7/22 09:25:44
          As far as I'm aware? - MizzouTigerz MU - 7/22 14:15:36
          lol(nm) - Uncle John MU - 7/22 09:31:43
          Sort of - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 09:27:33
     That was also the refrain before last season as well. - StaleyTiger MU - 7/22 09:23:59
          From last summer. - StaleyTiger MU - 7/22 09:37:10
               And as the year went on it was obvious that KP and TP were - Uncle John MU - 7/22 09:38:55
                    No. It was obvious there were no leaders and - FIJItiger MU - 7/22 09:46:25
                         OK(nm) - Uncle John MU - 7/22 10:16:22
                    No it wasn't. Clark and Wright were clearly our 2nd and 3rd - StaleyTiger MU - 7/22 09:43:29
                         Not based on stats and production - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 09:48:45
                              Bull****. Wright was our leading rebounder and 2nd leading - StaleyTiger MU - 7/22 10:24:00
                                   Agreed - any statistic that tells one that KJ was better - tigerdb MU - 7/22 10:54:03
                                   CVL was the least efficient player on the team - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 10:50:07
                                        There's a reason they played more minutes - they were BETTER - tigerdb MU - 7/22 10:55:50
                                             feel free to ignore stats that are universally accepted - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 11:01:56
                                                  NEP/M is a universally accepted metric for determining - tigerdb MU - 7/22 11:12:35
                                                       I have never used NEP/M - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 11:25:29
                                        They were terrible, glad I don't have to suffer watching - Uncle John MU - 7/22 10:53:00
                                   Wright was a punk, no way around it.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 7/22 10:42:00
                                        How do you figure? - tigerdb MU - 7/22 10:59:36
                              Walton? - tigerdb MU - 7/22 10:02:07
                                   Walton's not an outside shooter - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 10:05:19
                              Clark was the best player on the team last year - FIJItiger MU - 7/22 09:50:09
                                   lol(nm) - Uncle John MU - 7/22 10:17:29
                                   perhaps in your opinion - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 09:54:22
                                        Right, I'm just talking about basketball ability (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 7/22 09:55:25
                                             Yea I make my opinion based on what - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 09:58:20
                                                  Sounds like a differing approach (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 7/22 10:01:06
          J3 and Teki were never viewed the same way as Wright, Clark, - Uncle John MU - 7/22 09:26:31
     That was obvious to those of us who pay attention to what's - Uncle John MU - 7/22 09:23:59
     matter is a reporter, not an analyst. He needs to learn - SuperTone MU - 7/22 09:23:57




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