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NEP/M is a universally accepted metric for determining

Posted on: July 22, 2016 at 11:12:35 CT
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player worth? You have a link to that?

Using that metric, Adam Wolf was our best player last year....Yeah, I think I'll stick with saying it's retarded to take players stats and blindly extrapolate them over 40 minutes.


Please don't take this a personal attack - I do think that you're one of the better posters that somewhat supports KA, however I think this approach lacks critical reasoning (i.e. TP fouled too much - there's no way he could ever play 40 mpg - he was pretty close to maxed out on minutes in most games; "fresh" players may be more productive than guys that are logging 35 mpg - your best players.)

As a general rule, a bb coach is going to play his BEST players, there is no need to extrapolate NEP to a 40 minute time-frame.

Edited by tigerdb at 11:15:27 on 07/22/16
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The most telling statement from the Matter chat. - MizzouTigerz MU - 7/22 09:18:53
     The improvement of the sophomores will really be the main - mizzoudiehard MU - 7/22 11:34:35
          I agree that it is a good nucleus - MUIntensity USA - 7/22 11:39:50
               RE: I agree that it is a good nucleus - Tgrweir MU - 7/22 12:50:57
     Agree completely. Also, the guys that left were not good - MUIntensity USA - 7/22 11:16:21
          RE: Agree completely. Also, the guys that left were not good - Tgrweir MU - 7/22 13:08:49
               RE: Agree completely. Also, the guys that left were not good - Tgrweir MU - 7/22 13:12:34
          Disagree - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 11:45:50
     From Matter during last summer: - StaleyTiger MU - 7/22 09:41:11
          And it was. Chemistry last year was better than the - alwaysright MU - 7/22 12:26:38
          Big difference between sharing his personal opinion versus - HissingPrigs77 MU - 7/22 10:06:32
          So that means either chemistry was really bad - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 09:50:25
               RE: So that means either chemistry was really bad - stl0404 MU - 7/22 10:13:13
                    They were competitive in most games throughout the year... - catbirdseat MU - 7/22 11:11:27
                         RE: They were competitive in most games throughout the year... - stl0404 MU - 7/22 11:48:09
                              weren't very competitive either year - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 11:54:33
                    I don't think that is true at all - FIJItiger MU - 7/22 10:42:34
                         RE: I don't think that is true at all - Tgrweir MU - 7/22 13:14:56
                         the level of effort and intensity on the floor has never - catbirdseat MU - 7/22 11:10:10
                              The win over LSU in his first season (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 7/22 11:23:18
                                   74-67 overtime victory in the SEC opener - catbirdseat MU - 7/22 11:38:53
                              I told you we should have hired Floyd Irons.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 7/22 11:16:05
                         No it wasn't, it was horrible. It wasn't good last year, - Uncle John MU - 7/22 10:48:55
                              His first year the team quit, but at least they still had - FIJItiger MU - 7/22 10:54:09
                                   OK(nm) - Uncle John MU - 7/22 11:01:50
                    They weren't competitive in most games last year. - tgr MU - 7/22 10:17:44
               It seems like Kim is really good about making excuses as to - StaleyTiger MU - 7/22 09:55:51
               No, it indicates that a pattern has developed - FIJItiger MU - 7/22 09:52:58
                    RE: No, it indicates that a pattern has developed - Tgrweir MU - 7/22 13:19:32
                         I find it amazing too, would not have thought it to be true(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 7/22 14:52:51
                              Psssst - MizzouTigerz MU - 7/22 15:37:26
                    and then - chokingmychickenhawk MU - 7/22 10:20:18
                         No, that was last year. We are completely cratered now(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 7/22 10:34:22
                              Cratered alert - MizzouTigerz MU - 7/22 11:34:41
                              You think Kim has put the shovel down?(nm) - tigerdb MU - 7/22 11:16:45
                                   No, he recruited additional players...(nm) - catbirdseat MU - 7/22 12:15:22
                    It seems to be the pattern. Hope springs eternal in the - StaleyTiger MU - 7/22 09:59:27
                         Wrights efficiency ratings from - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 10:02:54
                              The transfer that really hurt then is - FIJItiger MU - 7/22 10:39:25
                                   RE: The transfer that really hurt then is - Tgrweir MU - 7/22 13:21:31
                                   there is a minimum amount of time a player has to play - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 10:52:59
                              According to this, Walton had a lower efficiency rating - StaleyTiger MU - 7/22 10:12:16
                                   Change the view to efficiency - haeffb MU - 7/22 10:25:48
                                        I was talking about Namon's efficiency rating from his - StaleyTiger MU - 7/22 10:29:23
                                             lol(nm) - Uncle John MU - 7/22 10:41:22
                                   We are using different definitions of efficiency - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 10:20:42
                                        Well then Adam Wolf or Jimmy Barton were pretty good if - StaleyTiger MU - 7/22 10:27:12
                                             Those efficiency stats are widely accepted in both the NBA - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 10:36:16
                    I have heard from a few insiders - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 09:55:38
                         RE: I have heard from a few insiders - Tgrweir MU - 7/22 13:23:38
                         Hindsights 20/20. He should have booted Allen, Wright, and - Uncle John MU - 7/22 10:22:11
                              RE: Hindsights 20/20. He should have booted Allen, Wright, and - Tgrweir MU - 7/22 13:34:21
                         Possibly, but I personally don't believe that - FIJItiger MU - 7/22 10:03:56
                              Once again your clairvoyance continues to amaze. How you can - MizzouTigerz MU - 7/22 14:04:57
                              RE: Possibly, but I personally don't believe that - Tgrweir MU - 7/22 13:31:48
          OK it's clear KA is not a Chemical Engineer - mu7176grad MU - 7/22 09:42:55
     It's always helpful when the coach's favorite players - tigerdb MU - 7/22 09:36:20
          J3 was a coaches guy - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 09:38:43
     Making the Tournament with our non-con would require - Evenflow MU - 7/22 09:35:34
     He never says he's hopeful about Mizzou - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 09:33:15
          His view is also from an appreciative angle - tigerdb MU - 7/22 09:38:32
     As he indicates, he is hopeful they can - FIJItiger MU - 7/22 09:29:30
     Was Matter allowed this kind of access last summer? - tgr MU - 7/22 09:25:44
          As far as I'm aware? - MizzouTigerz MU - 7/22 14:15:36
          lol(nm) - Uncle John MU - 7/22 09:31:43
          Sort of - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 09:27:33
     That was also the refrain before last season as well. - StaleyTiger MU - 7/22 09:23:59
          From last summer. - StaleyTiger MU - 7/22 09:37:10
               And as the year went on it was obvious that KP and TP were - Uncle John MU - 7/22 09:38:55
                    No. It was obvious there were no leaders and - FIJItiger MU - 7/22 09:46:25
                         OK(nm) - Uncle John MU - 7/22 10:16:22
                    No it wasn't. Clark and Wright were clearly our 2nd and 3rd - StaleyTiger MU - 7/22 09:43:29
                         Not based on stats and production - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 09:48:45
                              Bull****. Wright was our leading rebounder and 2nd leading - StaleyTiger MU - 7/22 10:24:00
                                   Agreed - any statistic that tells one that KJ was better - tigerdb MU - 7/22 10:54:03
                                   CVL was the least efficient player on the team - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 10:50:07
                                        There's a reason they played more minutes - they were BETTER - tigerdb MU - 7/22 10:55:50
                                             feel free to ignore stats that are universally accepted - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 11:01:56
                                                  NEP/M is a universally accepted metric for determining - tigerdb MU - 7/22 11:12:35
                                                       I have never used NEP/M - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 11:25:29
                                        They were terrible, glad I don't have to suffer watching - Uncle John MU - 7/22 10:53:00
                                   Wright was a punk, no way around it.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 7/22 10:42:00
                                        How do you figure? - tigerdb MU - 7/22 10:59:36
                              Walton? - tigerdb MU - 7/22 10:02:07
                                   Walton's not an outside shooter - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 10:05:19
                              Clark was the best player on the team last year - FIJItiger MU - 7/22 09:50:09
                                   lol(nm) - Uncle John MU - 7/22 10:17:29
                                   perhaps in your opinion - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 09:54:22
                                        Right, I'm just talking about basketball ability (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 7/22 09:55:25
                                             Yea I make my opinion based on what - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/22 09:58:20
                                                  Sounds like a differing approach (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 7/22 10:01:06
          J3 and Teki were never viewed the same way as Wright, Clark, - Uncle John MU - 7/22 09:26:31
     That was obvious to those of us who pay attention to what's - Uncle John MU - 7/22 09:23:59
     matter is a reporter, not an analyst. He needs to learn - SuperTone MU - 7/22 09:23:57




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