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I can see offensive WAR being accurate but i think defensive

Posted on: July 21, 2016 at 16:23:33 CT

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WAR is too subjective. A home run is a home run, what one person might consider an error or passed ball another may not consider it the same. Like i said before, defense is very subjective compared to offense.

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ESPN Top 100 MLB players of all-time - Joeboo MU

- 7/21 15:38:05

Pete Rose #37? All time hit king, all star at 5 positions. - Erwin Fletcher STL - 7/21 17:03:17

Jim Edmonds number 1?(nm) - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 7/21 16:10:12

Mickey Rivers(nm) - playhard NWMSU - 7/21 16:25:21

Ty Cobb (nm) - 44.f6 Rd1 MU - 7/21 16:20:39

makes a mean salad(nm) - Joeboo MU

- 7/21 16:22:13

"Don't you put any black olives on it"- Ty Cobb - 44.f6 Rd1 MU - 7/21 16:24:43

The Say Hey Kid is the best all around player of all time - TheWildcat STL - 7/21 16:10:45

Mantle has to be right there (nm) - TigerNuts KC - 7/21 16:18:48

Yes probably so...I think Griffey is there as well. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 7/21 16:20:43

Ruth was the best - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 7/21 16:11:37

Mays was better fielder than all of them. I am talking 5 - TheWildcat STL - 7/21 16:13:31

Ruth's arm though..... 35 Complete Games in 38 starts. - DrViagra UM - 7/21 16:19:29

anyone who thinks Ruth wasn't the greatest player ever is - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 7/21 16:42:04

no - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 7/21 16:18:35

I think speed means a lot in baseball - 44.f6 Rd1 MU - 7/21 16:26:20

stolen bases are the most overrated aspect in baseball - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 7/21 16:40:56

Agreed. Hitting for average is the most important (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 7/21 16:29:29

Time for another classic STL-KC p*ssing match - Cosmo MU

- 7/21 15:41:57

RE: Time for another classic STL-KC p*ssing match - colonel angus beef KC - 7/21 16:04:08

I am sure Brett is the only Royalon that list. - TheWildcat STL - 7/21 15:45:24

Probably, how many Cardinals would be on that list - playhard NWMSU - 7/21 15:48:52

Yadi is probably the top defensive catcher of all time (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 7/21 15:54:16

Eh, maybe...he's very good maybe even great but I think - playhard NWMSU - 7/21 16:00:41

Molina is a career .281 hitter and a 4 time platinum - Erwin Fletcher STL - 7/21 17:39:52

You just lost all credibility about knowing anything about - STL1DFW STL - 7/21 17:00:54

I don't even like Yadi all that much. I like him more - TheWildcat STL - 7/21 16:02:24

possibly, him or Johnny Bench, with a close honorable - Joeboo MU

- 7/21 15:57:48

Hard to say because we never saw guys like Yogi Berra - playhard NWMSU - 7/21 16:05:32

^^Now frantic to use players & events prior to kc's - STL1DFW STL - 7/21 17:10:38

The 2 highest WARs of all time at the postion are Bench - TheWildcat STL - 7/21 16:08:00

How do they come up with a WAR on someone like Bench who - playhard NWMSU - 7/21 16:11:34

Protesting to levels of obvious bitter denial, lol(nm) - STL1DFW STL - 7/21 17:12:36

This year I have seen Molina miss balls that he normally - TheWildcat STL - 7/21 16:12:54

I can see offensive WAR being accurate but i think defensive - playhard NWMSU - 7/21 16:23:33

Funny, according to this he's not committed an error this - playhard NWMSU - 7/21 16:15:34

According to that he has 1 error, you are looking at 1b - Erwin Fletcher STL - 7/21 17:46:14

a passed ball is not an error - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/21 16:19:07

Lol, excellent! Every once in a while you stick your - STL1DFW STL - 7/21 17:14:48

A lot of times they are wild pitches and not his fault... - TheWildcat STL - 7/21 16:17:15

They probably did the same thing for D Jeter...my point is - playhard NWMSU - 7/21 16:19:46

He has 4 platinum gloves. Not gold gloves, platinum. - Erwin Fletcher STL - 7/21 17:59:40

Pudge is the all around best catcher of all time but - TheWildcat STL - 7/21 15:58:42

Yogi?(nm) - bactgr JC - 7/21 16:01:21

It's really only between Bench and Pudge. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 7/21 16:02:40

What about Buster Posey? - playhard NWMSU - 7/21 16:08:08

He isn't a better fielder than Molina but is all around - TheWildcat STL - 7/21 16:09:04

So you base how good or bad a position player is on - playhard NWMSU - 7/21 16:12:58

I would rather have Posey than Molina. I am not arguing - TheWildcat STL - 7/21 16:14:12

Well...thats like your opinion, man(nm) - bactgr JC - 7/21 16:03:03

RE: I am sure Brett is the only Royalon that list. - Joeboo MU

- 7/21 15:48:21

Taveras could have used that(nm) - McRib MU - 7/21 15:50:53

RE: I am sure Brett is the only Royalon that list. - Cosmo MU

- 7/21 15:50:11

Little premature to even have Trout in the top 100 (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 7/21 15:40:37

Premature? - McRib MU - 7/21 15:47:02

Kinda what i thought too, assuming he stays healthy - playhard NWMSU - 7/21 15:43:00

Totally agree - Cosmo MU

- 7/21 15:42:30