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On the eve of the annual Braggin Right game, I reflect by  FIJITiger
A new coach will be too expensive - the808bass MU - 11/28/16 21:43:57
     Losing revenue year over year is getting expensive, too.(nm) - ANewHope4 MU - 11/28/16 21:45:36
          No. Missouri has astronomical resources, but is skillfully - Fred G. Sanford USA - 11/28/16 21:55:40
     I still say KVA was brought here to be a caretaker - Doc Stone MU - 11/28/16 21:45:32
          Agree, still someone should make some shots - Uncle John MU - 11/28/16 21:47:43
          He forgot to water the plants(nm) - ERB KC - 11/28/16 21:46:48
          A caretaker that let the patient die in one week.(nm) - jrmtiger MU - 11/28/16 21:46:21
          He should have been hired after Mike Anderson then. - tigerspy MU - 11/28/16 21:46:11
               weren't on probation then - Doc Stone MU - 11/28/16 21:48:07
     It is time for an extension after the third year. (nm) - tigerspy MU - 11/28/16 21:44:42
     Until he dies?(nm) - jrmtiger MU - 11/28/16 21:44:40
     Me too. Screw basketball. (nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 11/28/16 21:44:36
FWIW I miss Quin (nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 11/28/16 21:43:21
     I thought the end of the Quin era was rock bottom - Eggs MU - 11/28/16 21:44:40
     If he ever had gotten a decent PG - tigerspy MU - 11/28/16 21:44:21
          The single biggest mystery about Quin is that the - alwaysright MU - 11/28/16 21:47:48
               ...still be here? lol, he in the association dude goal met(nm) - CaptBob MU - 11/28/16 23:34:38
Quin Snyder wishes he got as much rope from you True Sons - DevilsAdvocate MU - 11/28/16 21:43:01
     He just liked blow and hos too much at the time. - ERB KC - 11/28/16 21:46:04
          at least he was interesting (nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 11/28/16 21:47:02
     Wish he was still our coach. The one time we really went - tman KC - 11/28/16 21:44:34
Kim is working hard - Holt City Tiger MU - 11/28/16 21:41:41
     Sarcasm - Holt City Tiger MU - 11/28/16 21:48:46
          My irritation with Kim threw off my sarcasm sensor.(nm) - jrmtiger MU - 11/28/16 21:53:58
     Do you dolts message each other to come to Kim's defense? - jrmtiger MU - 11/28/16 21:42:54
     needs to work smarter - Doc Stone MU - 11/28/16 21:42:46
You cats are blaming the coach because the team shot 25% - Doc James USA - 11/28/16 21:41:19
     YES nm - lhs MU - 11/28/16 21:45:57
     We didn't shoot 25% on good looks created by a good offense - zodiac6 JC - 11/28/16 21:45:43
          RE: We didn't shoot 25% on good looks created by a good offense - jrizzle MU - 11/28/16 21:51:39
     We're blaming him for losing to NC Central, at home... - Outsider MU - 11/28/16 21:44:11
     Correct. (nm) - the808bass MU - 11/28/16 21:42:51
     Who recruited the players who missed the shots?(nm) - StaleyTiger MU - 11/28/16 21:42:07
     No. They were completely unprepared.(nm) - jrmtiger MU - 11/28/16 21:41:58
          Actually no. You can blame recruiting less talented players - tman KC - 11/28/16 21:43:36
     who brought those losers here?(nm) - Doc Stone MU - 11/28/16 21:41:55
     We're blaming him for the program. (nm) - tigerspy MU - 11/28/16 21:41:43
The team is still young. - reedus23 MU - 11/28/16 21:40:33
     KA has proven nothing. - ERB KC - 11/28/16 21:44:18
          Replacing them with his own players is part of the - reedus23 MU - 11/28/16 21:52:52
               Convincing argument. Fire KA tonight. nm - reedus23 MU - 11/28/16 21:57:56
               you can if they're no good(nm) - Doc Stone MU - 11/28/16 21:54:51
     No, let the next coach build off these guys(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/28/16 21:43:40
     Why didn't he purge Haith's guys earlier? - Eggs MU - 11/28/16 21:42:52
     This team is young because of KA's failure to identify - zodiac6 JC - 11/28/16 21:42:10
          You're asking a lot of freshmen and sophomores. Give - reedus23 MU - 11/28/16 21:54:30
               I'll give the players all the time they need. - zodiac6 JC - 11/28/16 22:01:01
     It is young because everybody else quit or was forced out - alstl MU - 11/28/16 21:41:45
          Of course that's why and sure it is. That means, - reedus23 MU - 11/28/16 21:55:22
     no. there is no room for any SEC team to lose - Doc Stone MU - 11/28/16 21:41:32
     He "deserves" nothing.(nm) - jrmtiger MU - 11/28/16 21:41:30
     13th youngest in the country. (nm) - the808bass MU - 11/28/16 21:41:26
     "KA has proven he can coach." WRONG (nm) - tigerspy MU - 11/28/16 21:41:09
          He's won before. He can win now. nm - reedus23 MU - 11/28/16 21:52:09
               he's never won as a head coach at d-1(nm) - Doc Stone MU - 11/28/16 21:59:48
If KA isn't willing to step down, Sterk needs to take action - Eggs MU - 11/28/16 21:39:46
     Calm down Kim is here til the end of the year...... - sharpwp UNC - 11/28/16 21:50:28
     How much in the red do you think the basketball program - playhard NWMSU - 11/28/16 21:44:22
     I will drive up there personally if he does not have the - DevilsAdvocate MU - 11/28/16 21:41:04
Why the fvck are NCAA violations looming? - DevilsAdvocate MU - 11/28/16 21:39:01
     the tutor thing, right? (nm) - TigerwTLP MU - 11/28/16 21:39:46
          you have to be ****ting me(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 11/28/16 21:40:22
               i personally doubt anything significant comes from it - TigerwTLP MU - 11/28/16 21:41:01
               Nope. Convicted felon turned us in(nm) - tman KC - 11/28/16 21:40:53
     The tutoring isue(nm) - tman KC - 11/28/16 21:39:38
I accidentally drank too much whiskey tonight. - KCMIZSEC KC - 11/28/16 21:38:10
anyone know how bad Jerry Sloan's dementia is?(nm) - lqf2b8 MU - 11/28/16 21:35:37
     2 words. Larry Brown (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 11/28/16 21:36:38
          He doesn't do small towns any more(nm) - STL1DFW STL - 11/28/16 21:38:43
          At this point - DevilsAdvocate MU - 11/28/16 21:37:44
               We'll be competitive in 2 seasons nationally. Prob be on - TheWildcat STL - 11/28/16 21:38:22
                    or we can suck for 3 years and still get probation (nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 11/28/16 21:39:48
          That would be a tough sell to the fans. (nm) - TB Tiger MU - 11/28/16 21:37:29
It's well past time to overpay for even an average coach - playhard NWMSU - 11/28/16 21:35:35
     RE: It's well past time to overpay for even an average coach - SpaceOddity KU - 11/28/16 22:16:24
     Every year there are 5-10 good candidates available..... - sharpwp UNC - 11/28/16 21:54:56
     The same coachwe should have hired is still there - tman KC - 11/28/16 21:39:10
If Kim gets to "step down", and claim health reasons or some - jrmtiger MU - 11/28/16 21:33:50
     KA isn't being fired during the season and if he is let go - MrTruman2U MU - 11/28/16 21:37:49
          "who can Sterk get who will be better?" A: Anyone(nm) - jrmtiger MU - 11/28/16 21:45:37
anyone know if Bo Ryan is bored with retirement - lqf2b8 MU - 11/28/16 21:32:53
     His penis is getting tired. (nm) - DrViagra UM - 11/28/16 21:35:26
      Sterk has hired a retired former Wisconsin coach before. - zodiac6 JC - 11/28/16 21:33:34
          Former Michigan coach - sfprman MU - 11/28/16 22:53:37
     he is having personal drama. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 11/28/16 21:33:19
          I wonder if he and Bobby Petrino go out bar hopping. (nm) - tigerspy MU - 11/28/16 21:35:23
Kim Vanatta, now the worst living mens basketball coach - Doc Stone MU - 11/28/16 21:32:37
     he needs a tutor(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 11/28/16 21:33:25
Does Porter flip? (nm) - DrViagra UM - 11/28/16 21:31:04
No way KA gets fired in season and if Steck does let KA go - MrTruman2U MU - 11/28/16 21:31:04
     The new NCAA cloud certainly complicates matters. It is a - ANewHope4 MU - 11/28/16 21:40:56
We may never really know if KA can - IAMMU MU - 11/28/16 21:30:10
     the last 66 games show he can't coach at the D1 level(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 11/28/16 21:32:47
     get a legit coach in here and the players will follow. - Outsider MU - 11/28/16 21:32:41
     This talent can win 20 games as juniors and seniors. That - alwaysright MU - 11/28/16 21:32:12
          With a different head coach. - TB Tiger MU - 11/28/16 21:34:09
     oh most know(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 11/28/16 21:32:09
We need another Paul Oliney to feel sorry for us....... - Pikespeaktiger MU - 11/28/16 21:29:41
     3 or 4 of them(nm) - Doc Stone MU - 11/28/16 21:30:19
     That team was loaded with seniors. (nm) - tigerspy MU - 11/28/16 21:30:10
Is it lack of talent or lack of coaching? - KCMIZSEC KC - 11/28/16 21:27:42
     Both.(nm) - jrmtiger MU - 11/28/16 21:34:55
     Both - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/28/16 21:34:02
     Talent, but he recruited them. - IAMMU MU - 11/28/16 21:32:51
     KA's players play at or below their talent level and - playhard NWMSU - 11/28/16 21:32:48
     Mostly coaching, with an avg coach this team stomps - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/28/16 21:32:03
     if you look at the other offers our guys got - TigerwTLP MU - 11/28/16 21:30:54
     The coach, making 7 figures, is responsible for the talent.. - Lerxst MU - 11/28/16 21:30:23
          Word. (nm) - ANewHope4 MU - 11/28/16 21:34:25
     A GOOD coach gets more out of less - sfprman MU - 11/28/16 21:29:16
     Coaching. - zodiac6 JC - 11/28/16 21:29:02
     Average X's & O's + terrible recruiting = cratered(nm) - StaleyTiger MU - 11/28/16 21:28:49
          ^^^this^^^(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 11/28/16 21:30:29
          Are the Xs and Os even average, though? Even when we're - TB Tiger MU - 11/28/16 21:30:04
               Probably not. I think saying average is probably being - StaleyTiger MU - 11/28/16 21:31:21
                    Fair assessment. I feel like most of the teams we've played - TB Tiger MU - 11/28/16 21:32:45
               DII average(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 11/28/16 21:31:08
     C) All of the above(nm) - ERB KC - 11/28/16 21:28:44
     Both (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 11/28/16 21:28:34
     RE: Is it lack of talent or lack of coaching? - kccooz MU - 11/28/16 21:28:32
     Yes? (nm) - the808bass MU - 11/28/16 21:28:11
          Ha! So all the above. (nm) - KCMIZSEC KC - 11/28/16 21:29:57
          Lol(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 11/28/16 21:28:33
Fire Kim - kccooz MU - 11/28/16 21:27:29
73% looks pretty darn good right now. (nm) - AndyTiger MU - 11/28/16 21:27:12
Biggest failure is in his third year he has failed to - alstl MU - 11/28/16 21:25:54
     he should have gone to Smith earlier in the game - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/28/16 21:37:16
          Not playing Smith, considering their general lack of size, - alwaysright MU - 11/28/16 21:39:53
               Yep. NCC wasn't going to push him around. - zodiac6 JC - 11/28/16 21:46:44
                    agree. - alwaysright MU - 11/28/16 21:48:14
     Nikko has been hurt once. - alwaysright MU - 11/28/16 21:27:14
          One thing for sure - this team needs a lot of minutes - alstl MU - 11/28/16 21:40:05
          he has had extensive surgery on both his hips(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 11/28/16 21:28:33
               That was not an injury. - alwaysright MU - 11/28/16 21:29:44
                    he got both hips blown up for fun?(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 11/28/16 21:31:59
                         He had a growth defect. It was not an injury. - alwaysright MU - 11/28/16 21:33:36
                              weird - MizzouAstro MU - 11/28/16 21:34:46
                                   You're arguing with someone who's saying a growth defect - the808bass MU - 11/28/16 21:40:52
                                        nobody said anything about one thing being better - alwaysright MU - 11/28/16 21:42:58
                                   Guess you should have read one of the numerous - alwaysright MU - 11/28/16 21:38:48
ouch. stayed to the end. ouch. - bornoncampus MU - 11/28/16 21:25:52
     it hardly matters(nm) - Doc Stone MU - 11/28/16 21:27:22
We paid a search firm to find Kim Anderson for us (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 11/28/16 21:25:00
     Alden is a basketball retard.(nm) - zodiac6 JC - 11/28/16 21:27:12
          Alden didn't want him. He left the blue-hair donors a big - jrmtiger MU - 11/28/16 21:29:09
               But Alden did hire Haith. - zodiac6 JC - 11/28/16 21:31:05
                    Can't argue with much of that.(nm) - jrmtiger MU - 11/28/16 21:38:26
     "after our searching, everyone but KA told us to - TigerwTLP MU - 11/28/16 21:26:49
     You can get lost in Warrensburg - Outsider MU - 11/28/16 21:26:47
          If you're looking for a power conf D1 coach in Warrensburg, - ANewHope4 MU - 11/28/16 21:27:41
               Ding! Ding! Ding! - Outsider MU - 11/28/16 21:30:22
               Yep.(nm) - jrmtiger MU - 11/28/16 21:29:33
     No we didn't. We hired a search firm to - alwaysright MU - 11/28/16 21:26:36
     I will wager that the search firm did not give - Doc Stone MU - 11/28/16 21:25:55
          A search firm is used as a go-between. They aren't actually - cefoo MU - 11/28/16 21:27:33
               I know but they do give names - Doc Stone MU - 11/28/16 21:29:00
                    Any respectable AD has their list of names already. - alwaysright MU - 11/28/16 21:31:02
                         SHOULD - Doc Stone MU - 11/28/16 21:34:44
                              The guy couldn't hire the right guy for hoops. but I - alwaysright MU - 11/28/16 21:44:29
     We paid them over $40k to find him. I want that gig.(nm) - StaleyTiger MU - 11/28/16 21:25:53
     Even more embarrassing. He would have taken the job for - jrmtiger MU - 11/28/16 21:25:50
Our Backcourt Talent - War Horse MU - 11/28/16 21:24:36
     Front court isn't much better(nm) - tman KC - 11/28/16 21:25:18
          From a recruiting only point of view - backcourt is better - KC rules MU - 11/28/16 21:52:28
Who defends this? I wanted KA to work but it's not. Time - MATO MU - 11/28/16 21:23:16
     Everyone wanted KA to work, - tigerspy MU - 11/28/16 21:25:46
          It's so crazy it just might work! - ERB KC - 11/28/16 21:28:11
     Not according to the experts on this board... - Outsider MU - 11/28/16 21:25:32
          If you fall far enough, - tigerspy MU - 11/28/16 21:26:22
     I'm in the same boat. KA wasn't in my list of potential - TB Tiger MU - 11/28/16 21:25:00
     The ones who still defend this are the few that value Kim - jrmtiger MU - 11/28/16 21:24:11
          Same group that doesn't support the political ****?(nm) - tman KC - 11/28/16 21:26:14
Whiskey helps. - KCMIZSEC KC - 11/28/16 21:22:59
have you ever noticed how the word restore and - lqf2b8 MU - 11/28/16 21:22:43
     lol (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 11/28/16 21:23:25
let's not forget, Kim Anderson has won a National Title - Doc James USA - 11/28/16 21:21:53
     Wilber Stalcup won one at Northwest MO.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 11/28/16 21:24:12
          Walter Meanwell won three at Wisconsin(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 11/28/16 21:25:43
     he also tanked this program in a way no other coach - MizzouAstro MU - 11/28/16 21:23:20
     Not true, Stewart won a national title - Outsider MU - 11/28/16 21:23:18
     RE: let's not forget, Kim Anderson has never won a D1 - tigerdb MU - 11/28/16 21:23:12
Question - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 11/28/16 21:21:04
     Haith + KA + transfers out = poop show (nm) - TigerwTLP MU - 11/28/16 21:24:03
     Better yet, how do we get out?(nm) - Momaninil MU - 11/28/16 21:23:22
     We let the administration interfere in hiring decisions - cefoo MU - 11/28/16 21:22:52
     Norm failed to recruiit off of the success of 1994. - alwaysright MU - 11/28/16 21:22:18
          Danny Allouche resents that! (nm) - tigerspy MU - 11/28/16 21:22:54
     Old white people. - tigerspy MU - 11/28/16 21:22:12
          And they all promised to pack the arena - sfprman MU - 11/28/16 21:26:09
     a string of horrible Mike Alden decisions(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 11/28/16 21:21:58
     Quin. Always Quin. Lol(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 11/28/16 21:21:44
          Disagree. Quin at the time was a good hire. A few - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 11/28/16 21:29:18
               I was being sarcastic (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 11/28/16 21:35:24
     It all started with Suitcase(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/28/16 21:21:34
          no, CMA was the one decent decision Alden ever made - MizzouAstro MU - 11/28/16 21:22:31
               true statement. although I would say hiring Snyder was not - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 11/28/16 21:26:00
                    Bill Self disagrees - MizzouAstro MU - 11/28/16 21:26:59
                         True. I didn't say Snyder was the best hire, but he was - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 11/28/16 21:32:54
               It was still a poor decision - alwaysright MU - 11/28/16 21:23:40
                    no it wasn't. CMA had as much success over 5 years - MizzouAstro MU - 11/28/16 21:26:33
                         He did not leave an incredible roster. The roster was - alwaysright MU - 11/28/16 21:28:40
                              He left 7 great players and Moore, who ended up being - MizzouAstro MU - 11/28/16 21:31:18
                                   He left 5 good players - alwaysright MU - 11/28/16 21:37:53
               Sorry, not the hiring of MA, MA leaving(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/28/16 21:23:06
                    that wasn't the problem at all - MizzouAstro MU - 11/28/16 21:25:48
     Mike Alden. (nm) - ANewHope4 MU - 11/28/16 21:21:33
          +1 - ERB KC - 11/28/16 21:24:42
          THIS(nm) - Doc Stone MU - 11/28/16 21:21:56

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