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how much of it is coaching? how much of it is players? - SoutheastConferenceTiger MU

- 3/1/15 14:26:19

Blame doesn't matter. Only matters if it can be fixed - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 14:42:35

how can you fix something without identifying the source - ATL Tiger MU - 3/1/15 14:50:25

sure hope kim knows the source (nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 14:51:09

50/50 seems reasonable (nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 14:35:01

Depends entirely on the circumstances. - haeffb MU - 3/1/15 14:39:33

So you are saying that you are like Frank Haith - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 14:47:40

Freshmen with no senior leaders - Mr. Orange SU - 3/1/15 14:28:11

Circumstance > Coaching > Talent - KC rules MU - 3/1/15 14:35:09

Early in the Florida game...I eyballed: - BigTime SEMO - 3/1/15 14:20:38

Rebounds affected by poor shooting.Opponent offensive reboun - TigerFan92 MU - 3/1/15 14:40:16

so you're saying the key is Rosburg? - SoutheastConferenceTiger MU

- 3/1/15 14:28:17

For most of the season I saw the TEAM's lack of urgency - BigTime SEMO - 3/1/15 14:44:53

RE: For most of the season I saw the TEAM's lack of urgency - KC rules MU - 3/1/15 14:48:06

yep, it's been a while since we had a decent big guy(nm) - Uncle John MU - 3/1/15 14:28:01

We have 8 losses by less than 9 points - Mutiger MU - 3/1/15 14:26:18

Yep..typos...no editing button immediately after posting. - BigTime SEMO - 3/1/15 14:37:19

Who here has watched any practices? - GA Tiger MU - 3/1/15 14:17:22

does not keep you from evaluating Pinkel - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 14:19:40

if 8-21 Missouri were in the BiXII - SoutheastConferenceTiger MU

- 3/1/15 14:14:08

Pass, I prefer even this to that(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 14:15:04

We should have known this first year would be a disaster - MakeShift MU - 3/1/15 14:13:27

lol makeshift you always have a way of putting things - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 14:23:04

Hard to argue with the thought though.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 3/1/15 14:18:48

Isn't part of coaching motivating people to do what you - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 13:09:01

The way I understand it - quicksand MU - 3/1/15 14:03:02

Good Lord - Mutiger MU - 3/1/15 14:12:55

Agree. You have to look no further than our past examples - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 14:08:21

You don't understand it - haeffb MU - 3/1/15 14:07:57

I know it is not a one-way street. However it seems those w - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 14:10:55

I think there are only a few posters on here that think that - tiger4real MU - 3/1/15 14:13:13

Maybe I am focusing only on those few. - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 14:15:32

just like the crazy left wing liberals andd right wing extre - tiger4real MU - 3/1/15 14:31:30

Hmm….the ones defending Kim see it as a one way street - Mutiger MU - 3/1/15 14:11:32

mutiger I am trying to understand. Two-way street seems - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 14:14:03

And the Kim haters - Mutiger MU - 3/1/15 14:17:43

I am really a Alden hater, but your point is valid(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 14:20:35

They all have bought in - Mr. Orange UMKC - 3/1/15 13:40:50

you know this?(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 14:08:15

Yes. You dont watch the games? - Mr. Orange SU - 3/1/15 14:22:11

suffered through every one of them - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 14:24:16

Why don't people understand - Mutiger MU - 3/1/15 13:40:06

No I understand but I don't think this is all on the players - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 14:12:47

RE: No I understand but I don't think this is all on the players - hondo MU - 3/1/15 14:15:30

so they they cannot be developed over the period of a - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 14:17:04

Its hard to break habits - Mutiger MU - 3/1/15 14:28:03

You can't know that - Mutiger MU - 3/1/15 14:14:57

aren't you deeply concerned if the core of the team - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 14:18:26

I am a little concerned - Mutiger MU - 3/1/15 14:22:27

Not when it comes to Kim. - Evenflow MU - 3/1/15 13:32:57

Most teams like our FB team have - Thunder MU - 3/1/15 13:25:30

RE: Isn't part of coaching motivating people to do what you - hondo MU - 3/1/15 13:17:20

I didn't say it was easy did I?(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 14:26:09

Not if you're good. - Evenflow MU - 3/1/15 13:36:37

RE: Not if you're good. - hondo MU - 3/1/15 13:39:26

I mean, have you ever run a business? - Evenflow MU - 3/1/15 13:40:43

RE: I mean, have you ever run a business? - hondo MU - 3/1/15 13:46:31

Well, you seem to think leadership is really hard. - Evenflow MU - 3/1/15 13:47:32

RE: Well, you seem to think leadership is really hard. - hondo MU - 3/1/15 13:50:38

And I agree. - Evenflow MU - 3/1/15 13:51:59

In business - Mutiger MU - 3/1/15 13:44:01

You've spent too much time in jr high... - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 13:58:46

Not really. - Evenflow MU - 3/1/15 13:45:17

Yes you can. I've seen it done.(nm) - AWOLTiger KC - 3/1/15 13:57:04

RE: Not really. - hondo MU - 3/1/15 13:48:38

You can't fire them all. - Evenflow MU - 3/1/15 13:50:49

He just got hired - Mutiger MU - 3/1/15 14:06:08

Untrue. I've seen entire depts cleared out(nm) - AWOLTiger KC - 3/1/15 13:57:26

Sucks when you clean out the existing personnel and the - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 14:04:26

Everything I've typed in this thread is generally true. - Evenflow MU - 3/1/15 14:00:29

RE: Everything I've typed in this thread is generally true. - hondo MU - 3/1/15 14:13:26

I agree. If these guys are a bad as some are saying - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 14:29:53

If a business is going as badly as this team, the first one - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 14:20:36

I need one more year before I can say can him - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 14:31:03

We'll know a lot more in the next two months... - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 14:40:42

Nope - Mutiger MU - 3/1/15 14:07:22

You must be a "yes" man. - Evenflow MU - 3/1/15 14:08:51

I am leader - Mutiger MU - 3/1/15 14:12:22

LOL... I've only heard that a few times and no reason to - tigersfan MU - 3/1/15 14:29:35

That has to be another Toro double-handle - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 14:42:00

which one in this thread?(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 14:51:45

Only if this is going to work - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 13:17:11

you need to quit acting like a jerk and use some common - Uncle John MU - 3/1/15 13:22:19

RE: you need to quit acting like a jerk and use some common - hondo MU - 3/1/15 13:34:08

He will have to recruit and develop then - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 14:36:52

What common sense would differ from - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 13:30:58

common sense would tell you that changing the culture from - Mr. Orange UMKC - 3/1/15 13:42:53

I am talking about this working at this point - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 13:46:27

Wrong. 50/50. We will know much more when the season ends - Mr. Orange UMKC - 3/1/15 13:50:39

Partly correct. We will know with more certainty - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 13:52:46

RE: Partly correct. We will know with more certainty - hondo MU - 3/1/15 13:55:14

Doesn't matter what we should have or who could - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 13:59:40

RE: Doesn't matter what we should have or who could - hondo MU - 3/1/15 14:19:26

Again doesn't matter. That is in the past and has already - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 14:46:08

Do you cry yourself to sleep every night, or just after a - Mr. Orange UMKC - 3/1/15 14:00:55

RE: Do you cry yourself to sleep every night, or just after a - hondo MU - 3/1/15 14:20:30

Not that level of unfortunate. (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 14:02:49

Nihilist - Mr. Orange SU - 3/1/15 14:06:47

Marmet(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 14:10:15

Dont worry Donny. These men are cowards - Mr. Orange UMKC - 3/1/15 13:57:24

Calmer than you are dude(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 14:01:22

You are so weak - Mr. Orange UMKC - 3/1/15 13:53:39

RE: What common sense would differ from - hondo MU - 3/1/15 13:38:22

Yes, I really think that(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 13:44:29

RE: Yes, I really think that(nm) - hondo MU - 3/1/15 13:52:41

You also think haith can coach - Mr. Orange UMKC - 3/1/15 13:45:56

your obsession with Haith is unhealthy - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 14:50:12

According to "go tigers" it's all on the players - MakeShift MU - 3/1/15 13:12:34

RE: According to "go tigers" it's all on the players - hondo MU - 3/1/15 13:40:36

Come on you are smarter than that (nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 14:37:58

KA brought in Allen, Isabell, MGC & Sham. I assume these... - Lerxst MU

- 3/1/15 14:15:04

RE: KA brought in Allen, Isabell, MGC & Sham. I assume these... - hondo MU - 3/1/15 14:22:50

Only the fools are blaming this either solely on the - SB in KC KC - 3/1/15 13:11:09

This.nm - tiger4real MU - 3/1/15 13:46:35

it will(nm) - Uncle John MU - 3/1/15 13:15:14

Kimmie making some good points about attendence on twitter - ZouMiz STL - 3/1/15 13:07:10

I see cowboy hat giveaways in the future - Mr. Orange UMKC - 3/1/15 13:48:03

Sounds like a politician. Talking points with no solutions(nm) - ajpe53 MU

- 3/1/15 13:30:46

I agree, but with games on tv/radio and costs and the - Thunder MU - 3/1/15 13:20:50

Unless you are Alden, those are common sense(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 13:20:13

For once we agree - Mr. Orange UMKC - 3/1/15 13:48:57

Easier said than done. - haeffb MU - 3/1/15 13:23:52

bottom line is you have to win(nm) - Uncle John MU - 3/1/15 13:26:28

In some ways the Mizzou fans who don't attend games and the - MakeShift MU - 3/1/15 13:16:19

good point, no doubt about that.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 3/1/15 13:30:57

Graham Watson wrote several stories about this issue - MakeShift MU - 3/1/15 13:50:44

What player is leading this team? Somewhere there is a bad - Thunder MU - 3/1/15 12:29:19

RE: What player is leading this team? Somewhere there is a bad - KC rules MU - 3/1/15 13:57:40

that's a really good question, losing Wes didn't help and - Uncle John MU - 3/1/15 12:35:30

I mentioned that in a post below, that is a must!(nm) - Uncle John MU - 3/1/15 13:17:16

I agree, but a strong minded Juco kid that can play would be - Thunder MU - 3/1/15 13:12:47

If KA would let Gant and Teki play, they would be the - MU-TULSA MU - 3/1/15 12:38:54

I am not sure about Teki. He makes 3 or 4 jr mistakes every - Thunder MU - 3/1/15 13:15:47

I think he will get better at that, if not Puryear will - Uncle John MU - 3/1/15 13:20:14

Hopefully they both step up... Great problem to have. (nm) - Thunder MU - 3/1/15 13:26:20

RE: If KA would let Gant and Teki play, they would be the - MUKdC MU - 3/1/15 13:03:10

We need a big man inside that can swat shots, and a guy that - Thunder MU - 3/1/15 13:17:30

I think the D has looked better than the O for - GA Tiger MU - 3/1/15 13:06:51

The 5-10 min lapses in scoring are a killer for us!(nm) - Thunder MU - 3/1/15 13:17:58

By lapses I meant those times someone just leaves - GA Tiger MU - 3/1/15 14:15:02

The players should have addressed the media - mizzoudiehard MU - 3/1/15 12:07:57

Writers make $20k a year. They don't even take a job serious - TigerFan92 MU - 3/1/15 14:49:37

**** the media. This aint the nfl son - Mr. Orange UMKC - 3/1/15 13:44:01

I was shocked by that. - quicksand MU - 3/1/15 12:54:51

According to media reports... - haeffb MU - 3/1/15 13:00:03

Maybe they are afraid they might say something that would - MU-TULSA MU - 3/1/15 12:42:55

It's embarrassing. Not only are they getting their butt's - Tiger_Claw STL - 3/1/15 12:33:22

If Kim can skip the immediate press conference once so can - the808bass MU - 3/1/15 12:51:55

Gant was quoted in the Star this morning - tiger4real MU - 3/1/15 12:19:19

Team is struggling with accountability - mu7176grad MU - 3/1/15 12:17:59

I agree - implode MU

- 3/1/15 12:16:27

Jabari with 48 pts last night. I believe he's leading the dl - ajpe53 MU

- 3/1/15 11:59:01

Wonder how his father is doing, hope for the best(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 12:15:48

good lord, how can that not impress the NBA!(nm) - Uncle John MU - 3/1/15 12:00:55

RE: good lord, how can that not impress the NBA!(nm) - bobby MU - 3/1/15 12:03:00

Jabari's not in the nba Genius - there was 1 NBA player - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 12:07:17

RE: Jabari's not in the nba Genius - there was 1 NBA player - bobby MU - 3/1/15 12:08:53

the truth doesn't fit the blue-haired agenda?(nm) - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 12:09:40

RE: the truth doesn't fit the blue-haired agenda?(nm) - bobby MU - 3/1/15 12:13:48

So Jabari is not getting the call anytime soon... - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 12:16:55

Jabari cant handle the ball - Pikespeaktiger MU - 3/1/15 12:05:24

that's pretty sad that a kid doesn't work hard enough - Uncle John MU - 3/1/15 12:08:01

It's a skill just like anything else. Sometimes no matter - ajpe53 MU

- 3/1/15 12:11:49

I guess that is a distinct possibility(nm) - Uncle John MU - 3/1/15 12:12:46

I am going to disagree - Mutiger MU - 3/1/15 12:09:07

pretty amazing wasn't it(nm) - Uncle John MU - 3/1/15 12:04:46

RE: pretty amazing wasn't it(nm) - bobby MU - 3/1/15 12:07:11

Quin did it with Kleiza and Gardner(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 12:14:32

RE: Quin did it with Kleiza and Gardner(nm) - bobby MU - 3/1/15 12:16:17

nobody is praising Haith... - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 12:19:06

how many mpg is Jabari averaging in the NBA? - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 12:08:17

RE: how many mpg is Jabari averaging in the NBA? - bobby MU - 3/1/15 12:12:35

Jabari is not in the NBA, and is not under an NBA contract.. - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 12:18:11

RE: Jabari is not in the NBA, and is not under an NBA contract.. - bobby MU - 3/1/15 12:19:05

change my tune to what? - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 12:21:14

RE: how many mpg is Jabari averaging in the NBA? - bobby MU - 3/1/15 12:09:55

Alden was neither great nor horrible. The truth is - Die-Hard MU - 3/1/15 11:44:27

Your discussion about how he handled the basketball - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 12:43:21

CMA looked every year - the808bass MU - 3/1/15 11:59:01

disliked working for the schmuck (nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 12:44:12

A big part of coaching is player development - quicksand MU - 3/1/15 11:23:44

Gant, Wright and Allen have all developed this season - SuperTone MU

- 3/1/15 12:51:20

Haven't seen it. - quicksand MU - 3/1/15 13:01:03

Gant has improved dramatically on the defensive end - tiger4real MU - 3/1/15 12:17:06

They haven't quit, they're just not very good - mizzoudiehard MU - 3/1/15 12:01:55

Poor players and a great coach, just give KA 10 more yrs, nm - MU-TULSA MU - 3/1/15 12:46:15

Namon is fast becoming Thomas Gardner in - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 11:39:02

Coaching has nothing to do with player effort - Mutiger MU - 3/1/15 11:54:01

You really didn't mean that, did you?.?. Nm - MU-TULSA MU - 3/1/15 12:48:07

RE: You really didn't mean that, did you?.?. Nm - Mutiger MU - 3/1/15 13:46:02

and you claim to have been a coach... - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 12:46:36

That is silly, of course it does. There may not be - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 11:58:50

I would argue it is the most important aspect - quicksand MU - 3/1/15 12:43:44

What coach can get... - haeffb MU - 3/1/15 12:03:54

So should we just play without a coach? - quicksand MU - 3/1/15 12:45:10

Not at all. But there comes a point where.... - haeffb MU - 3/1/15 12:49:27

That is truly sad and preposterous - quicksand MU - 3/1/15 13:04:46

They didn't quit. And I'm not forgiving anything, - haeffb MU - 3/1/15 13:21:24

The result couldn't be any worse, and we'd probably break - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 12:47:55

Perhaps with better coaching, the team would have exceeded 7 - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 12:23:30

Or…..if the players actually listened to their coach - Mutiger MU - 3/1/15 12:29:57

Perhaps. But that's not the point I was making. (nm) - haeffb MU - 3/1/15 12:24:53

They're beaten - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 12:30:23

A good coach. Although they would start by not - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 12:07:26

How? By promising extra pie with dinner? (nm) - haeffb MU - 3/1/15 12:16:32

That is what separates being a good coach - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 12:19:47

You have never coached - Mutiger MU - 3/1/15 12:25:59

didn't realize this was a coaching forum... - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 12:32:48

Agree on the former, disagree on the latter(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 12:31:48

What coach? Show me the guy whose team is 8-21 - haeffb MU - 3/1/15 12:23:55

Not sure how relevant providing a name would be - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 12:30:39

I believe setting clear expectations are critical... - haeffb MU - 3/1/15 12:38:06

We are in agreement. While we don't know what those - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 12:40:31

They were clearly the wrong things... - haeffb MU - 3/1/15 12:43:45

Because all of the benching and suspensions - Mutiger MU - 3/1/15 12:08:03

It's worked great(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 12:08:57

Like I said, NOT Coachable - Mutiger MU - 3/1/15 12:09:50

Suspending players is a punishment not discipline, nm - MU-TULSA MU - 3/1/15 12:53:00

LMAO - Mutiger MU - 3/1/15 13:41:57

Not working doesn't indicate not coachable (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 12:11:16

it's kind of fair to blame it on the coach, I wouldn't want - Uncle John MU - 3/1/15 12:06:47

it's not the coaching, just the wrong kids.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 3/1/15 12:02:41

Without a big step up in maturity... - Mormad MU - 3/1/15 12:09:11

I wonder what the odds are of having a whole team - tigersfan MU - 3/1/15 12:08:19

combination of bad kids and bad players makes vanleer - Uncle John MU - 3/1/15 12:11:02

LOL..what's that got to do with what the odds are of having - tigersfan MU - 3/1/15 12:13:48

with him and some juco's that will put pressure on - Uncle John MU - 3/1/15 12:20:04

RE: That is silly, of course it does. There may not be - Mutiger MU - 3/1/15 12:02:27

Jim Valvano might disagree. Nm - quicksand MU - 3/1/15 12:51:17

Well good coaches can. Agree ineffective coaches can't. (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 12:05:18

yep, there's a lot of pouting with this bunch(nm) - Uncle John MU - 3/1/15 12:03:51

Tell that to Bob Knight.nm - quicksand MU - 3/1/15 11:55:40

What could have been... - Lerxst MU

- 3/1/15 10:57:22

The basketball program needs a Fred Hall - MakeShift MU - 3/1/15 10:45:45

Nice revisionist history there - Zamboni MSU - 3/1/15 11:16:40

What was revisionist? The turnaround began under Larry - MakeShift MU - 3/1/15 12:56:47

Lofitn was a great land for Mizzou. - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 11:00:13

He's already got one scalp on his tent pole - samclemens MU

- 3/1/15 11:30:14

ugh...So important to make unsubstantiated claims - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 11:36:02

I'm sorry. Did I get on Wikepedia by mistake - samclemens MU

- 3/1/15 11:39:01

Well at least try.(nm) - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 11:49:17

Ok. But I do attempt to put at least a - samclemens MU

- 3/1/15 12:04:31

I would hold judgement until he makes a hire, and is here - Die-Hard MU - 3/1/15 11:14:39

We have track record at least - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 11:17:48

Best thing to happen to MU since moving to the SEC. (nm) - Lerxst MU

- 3/1/15 11:03:33

I have to agree. - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 11:05:59

I thought you wanted to name a building after me.......... - Fred G. Sanford USA - 3/1/15 10:53:05

I have named my erection after you.(nm) - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 10:54:06

Everyone has to start somewhere!(nm) - Fred G. Sanford USA - 3/1/15 11:03:22

I have a comet on it so there is that too.(nm) - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 11:11:53

Impressive(nm) - Fred G. Sanford USA - 3/1/15 11:15:22

Chuck Kiesler? What? No. - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 10:51:40

You are so wrong on this it isn't even funny - MakeShift MU - 3/1/15 12:58:28

I'm just glad Loftin is leading the AD search. (nm) - Lerxst MU

- 3/1/15 10:47:50

Yep but don't expect a big name hire. - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 11:00:56

Don't need a "big name" for AD. Just a competent, - Lerxst MU

- 3/1/15 11:03:08

I think building on what MA has done is paramount. - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 11:09:29

Are we still giving KA another year? I mean, really? (nm) - Tiger_Claw STL - 3/1/15 10:25:08

They can always slide him sideways as an Ambassador - samclemens MU

- 3/1/15 11:32:48

as frightening as it is, absolute minimum of 1 more yr - the808bass MU - 3/1/15 10:49:25

I agree with one more but the 3rd depends on next year - MoGold MU - 3/1/15 11:27:28

There is no one in place to hire a new coach - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 10:47:12

RE: There is no one in place to hire a new coach - Tigers_BB STL - 3/1/15 12:10:30

Would noone do worse than Alden at hiring bball coaches? - sharpwp UNC - 3/1/15 11:55:27

RE: There is no one in place to hire a new coach - bobby MU - 3/1/15 11:35:40

Indeeed; Fuller has won about as many games as Anderson - samclemens MU

- 3/1/15 11:34:25

Except for 5 games, he really doesn't have any coaching Xp, - MU-TULSA MU - 3/1/15 10:59:52

Unless he quits...yes. Depending on who the new AD is - playhard NWMSU - 3/1/15 10:45:59

KA is the coach of Missouri through 2016-2017 regardless - Fred G. Sanford USA - 3/1/15 10:37:26

RE: KA is the coach of Missouri through 2016-2017 regardless - KC rules MU - 3/1/15 10:41:30

New AD won't make a change this year. - MoGold MU - 3/1/15 11:31:53

RE: New AD won't make a change this year. - KC rules MU - 3/1/15 11:52:24

Don't get your hopes up - Zamboni MSU - 3/1/15 10:45:22

He will get year two but has nothing to do with that - MoGold MU - 3/1/15 11:34:46

Here we go again. This argument always makes me chuckle - Diamond Dave MU

- 3/1/15 10:53:54

Plus, the next guy in will be the new AD's guy - MoGold MU - 3/1/15 11:38:22

Exactly. (nm) - Lerxst MU

- 3/1/15 10:54:57

Right. No one would want to coach at a P5 school... - Lerxst MU

- 3/1/15 10:47:07

The position that "no one wants this job" is so ridiculous - the808bass MU - 3/1/15 10:52:51

It is ridiculous - but - KC rules MU - 3/1/15 10:58:24

That is BS. Marshall will be leaving WSU, bank on it - MoGold MU - 3/1/15 11:43:30

RE: That is BS. Marshall will be leaving WSU, bank on it - KC rules MU - 3/1/15 11:56:41

There's probably 50 DI coaches that wouldn't consider the... - Lerxst MU

- 3/1/15 11:01:57

RE: There's probably 50 DI coaches that wouldn't consider the... - KC rules MU - 3/1/15 11:10:53

An existing D1Asst or Mid Major would have been a far - the808bass MU - 3/1/15 11:01:19

It's honestly the most ridiculous thing that gets posted on - Diamond Dave MU

- 3/1/15 10:55:02

Many don't want to judging by the - Fred G. Sanford USA - 3/1/15 10:50:45

Don't underestimate the ability of Mike Alden - Diamond Dave MU

- 3/1/15 10:56:28

Mike White wanted the job but withdrew when we went... - Lerxst MU

- 3/1/15 10:53:50

Okie dokie(nm) - Fred G. Sanford USA - 3/1/15 10:54:21

Here you go... - Lerxst MU

- 3/1/15 10:56:06

John Calipari once withdrew too, after telling MA - Fred G. Sanford USA - 3/1/15 11:01:56

Through 2016-17 isnt 1 season (nm) - the808bass MU - 3/1/15 10:46:33

Maybe we'll make the NIT by then. (nm) - Lerxst MU

- 3/1/15 10:40:51

Agree.(nm) - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 10:38:07

What's his buyout? (nm) - the808bass MU - 3/1/15 10:38:04

That would be bad business.(nm) - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 10:41:56

What's bad for business is having the worst team in the SEC(nm) - Lerxst MU

- 3/1/15 10:45:54

That too. But - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 10:47:35

Money is not an issue. Commitment to winning is. (nm) - Lerxst MU

- 3/1/15 10:48:44

And it's not bad business to follow contract terms (nm) - the808bass MU - 3/1/15 10:45:16

Ridiculous. It's bad business to do this 3 years if it's - the808bass MU - 3/1/15 10:44:40

Not if revenues are down across the board in the sport. - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 10:46:32

Additionally, he's a cheap coach, his buyout is low - the808bass MU - 3/1/15 10:51:50

If the revenues are down more than the buyout over 5 yrs - the808bass MU - 3/1/15 10:47:38

Regardless of the current record, with Alden around - Diamond Dave MU

- 3/1/15 10:34:06

KA has a 5 yr contract, he will be here 5 yrs, - MU-TULSA MU - 3/1/15 10:30:38

The buy out is not a big issue - Tgr83 MU - 3/1/15 11:03:44

Fortunately, his base is low (you get what you pay for), - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 10:54:30

You can't give a coach a 2-3 year contract because... - Lerxst MU

- 3/1/15 10:39:47

Contracts mean nothing these days. Clauses - Beez90 MU - 3/1/15 10:33:19

Haven't seen the contract but I would guess MU would have - MU-TULSA MU - 3/1/15 10:41:06

Buyouts are usually a fraction of the remaining face... - Lerxst MU

- 3/1/15 10:44:56

Yep. I think he needs to be given a shot to see who he - Diamond Dave MU

- 3/1/15 10:36:14

To me it is delaying the inevitable, but - sharpwp UNC - 3/1/15 12:12:34

Um, yes. - Evenflow MU - 3/1/15 10:26:56

RE: Um, yes. - KC rules MU - 3/1/15 10:37:03

SEMO pushed us around - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 10:44:01

Oh and a UCM-led KA team probably should've beaten us - Diamond Dave MU

- 3/1/15 10:47:47

And SEMO had a lead on us at half in Haith's last year - Diamond Dave MU

- 3/1/15 10:47:21

8-21 vs. 23-12 - sharpwp UNC - 3/1/15 12:06:00

Realistic win opportunities next 3 - tiger4real MU - 3/1/15 10:17:51

I had Auburn as a win. - Evenflow MU - 3/1/15 10:20:53

KA reminds me of Bob Stull - Pikespeaktiger MU - 3/1/15 10:14:19

Stull's offense was sometimes fun to watch and he beat a - the808bass MU - 3/1/15 10:41:14

Stull would have 15 wins. (nm) - Evenflow MU - 3/1/15 10:16:58

Good point. Nm - Pikespeaktiger MU - 3/1/15 10:18:21

How many wins does KA need next yr to return for Year 3? - The New Guy MU - 3/1/15 10:08:08

14 - Bump834 MU - 3/1/15 13:10:29

I don't expect a huge improvement next year - KC rules MU - 3/1/15 10:17:58

What you describe would be huge improvement (nm) - Tgr83 MU - 3/1/15 11:05:17

RE: What you describe would be huge improvement (nm) - KC rules MU - 3/1/15 11:13:40

I liked the players refusing to talk afterwards - mu7176grad MU - 3/1/15 10:05:43

Why should they? - Pikespeaktiger MU - 3/1/15 10:16:48

Yesterday's discussion about 20+ point losses - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 09:50:43

The pig wore lipstick.......nm - tigertix MU - 3/1/15 10:00:57

My point is what is the difference between 20 point - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 10:15:55

RE: Yesterday's discussion about 20+ point losses - KC rules MU - 3/1/15 09:59:34

Also, losing by 10 when you scored 45 is not a close game - the808bass MU - 3/1/15 11:07:20

True. Not disputing that.(nm) - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 10:16:44

UG had a lot to do with the drought, we weren't in an - tigertix MU - 3/1/15 10:02:18

Bad teams don't get blown out EVERY game - sammy MU - 3/1/15 09:45:37

We can still run the table and - ShowMeKid MU - 3/1/15 09:30:33

Good point. - Evenflow MU - 3/1/15 09:32:19

If we move down to D2, KV can handle that group..nm - tigertix MU - 3/1/15 10:04:26

I think we go for the record instead, nm - MU-TULSA MU - 3/1/15 09:53:16

And finish one game short of tying the MU record - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 09:34:39

Mike Alden killed Mizzou basketball 16 years ago. (nm) - pickle MU

- 3/1/15 08:56:34

RE: Mike Alden killed Mizzou basketball 16 years ago. (nm) - steviesly MU - 3/1/15 10:06:25

Absolutely - Quin looked like a great hire at the time - KC rules MU - 3/1/15 10:20:41

He started the death by hiring Quin - TheNEWRemoteMan STL - 3/1/15 09:48:44

Quin and MA were not bad hires. Quin was a very... - Lerxst MU

- 3/1/15 10:43:33

RE: He started the death by hiring Quin - KC rules MU - 3/1/15 10:06:06

and then got a shovel, dug a hole & buried it when he hired - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 09:50:50

With the blessings of posters like Pickle...nm - tigertix MU - 3/1/15 09:59:46

no (nm) - pickle MU

- 3/1/15 13:36:53

If you mean he had to fire a lazy Norm Stewart, you... - tigertix MU - 3/1/15 09:29:52

Norm is MU basketball. Lazy? He still out works you! - Thunder MU - 3/1/15 12:26:00

RE: The players on his last teams didn't like him..... - missinglink MU - 3/1/15 14:07:38

worse AD ever(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 09:03:02

LOL! - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 09:03:42

He is one of the most respected AD's in the country - bornoncampus MU - 3/1/15 09:09:15

RE: He is one of the most respected AD's in the country - Uncle Chester KU - 3/1/15 10:16:31

Why?(nm) - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 10:18:09

Most respected by whom? - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 09:45:58

Only basketball counts.(nm) - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 09:51:50

If MA was a highly regarded AD, somebody would have - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 09:54:02

Joe C left. On his own. For OU. - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 10:17:45

MA hasn't had/doesn't have opportunities to leave on his own - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 10:24:05

And you know this how?(nm) - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 10:35:51

Because he is still here... - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 10:55:56

I worked for a company that had a CEO that everyone loved - MU-TULSA MU - 3/1/15 09:40:27

Because over 16 years, that is what Alden has done - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 09:41:38

Didn't say that, said that just because others think - MU-TULSA MU - 3/1/15 10:24:59

sure he is - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 09:20:41

Not even close. - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 09:24:46

No, he should be held to account for men's basketball... - Lerxst MU

- 3/1/15 09:12:27

Because he likes Mike - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 09:13:39

Oh those silly facts you like to call garbage. - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 09:14:56

LOL. What have you done for me lately.(nm) - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 09:13:02

Not much(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 09:14:05

ok.(nm) - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 09:15:26

Aldian(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 09:05:46

ok.(nm) - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 09:06:37

greatest ad ever we have won so many championships - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 09:07:41

Stupid post of the year.^^^(nm) - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 09:11:02

I have seen worse(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 09:19:14

Only by design maybe.(nm) - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 09:26:01

the devil appreciates your advocacy and insight. - bornoncampus MU - 3/1/15 09:10:31

Even the devil would find that position indefensible.* - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 09:11:46

give me all his merits - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 09:17:08

Let's just sum it up. - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 09:24:01

I am not as familiar with our Olympic sport successes - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 09:27:11

our football team is horrible(nm) - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 09:29:13

our football teams success should not cancel out - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 09:32:01

Yes I do. It is an overall body of work. - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 09:38:29

We all know how lucky that Hire has been - bobby MU - 3/1/15 09:30:26

We should have never hired GP.(nm) - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 09:38:51

Silver Bullet of Blame™ - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 09:00:46

He killed it when he hired Haith and then compounded... - Lerxst MU

- 3/1/15 08:59:15

He killed it when he took the job(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 09:06:24

Dave Hart, Jack Lengyel, Dick Tamburo - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 09:09:41

so Alden is incrementally better than them - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 09:15:16

Yeah. Just a little better. - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 09:16:39

so you agree he is incrementally better (nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 09:18:06

No.(nm) - Shrine Devine MU

- 3/1/15 09:26:17

ok(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 09:28:03

Haith, CMA, Snyder must all be grateful for the success they - pproteus MU - 3/1/15 08:49:16

RE: Haith, CMA, Snyder must all be grateful for the success they - bobby MU - 3/1/15 08:57:02

Still butt hurt over CMA. Never had a losing record as - Beez90 MU - 3/1/15 10:25:33

It's a good place to play. - Evenflow MU - 3/1/15 08:53:32

Frank Haith torched MU's basketball program better than - corpustiger MU - 3/1/15 08:31:03

How exactly does 30-23-23 wins "torch a program? - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 09:49:24

Out of all the odd developments I have observed on Tigerboar - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 08:43:49

You're not saying FH was a good hire, are you?... - Lerxst MU

- 3/1/15 08:57:51

He would have won about 20 games, which would have - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 09:02:25

Do you believe he would have won 20 games... - haeffb MU - 3/1/15 09:52:58

Punter, Biedscheid, & possibly Jones... - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 09:55:57

This failing to work on an offense is BS. - haeffb MU - 3/1/15 10:15:03

What got Cam removed from the team? - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 10:27:40

I do not know what got Cam removed. - haeffb MU - 3/1/15 11:47:02

We will never know. (nm) - Lerxst MU

- 3/1/15 09:43:06

Are you assuming he'd win 20 games because... - Lerxst MU

- 3/1/15 09:04:13

Yes, I am saying if he was still here. Not if he walked - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 09:08:17

FH didn't take a pay raise & long term stability... - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 09:57:28

Agree. To say FH got a raise is just dumb. (nm) - Lerxst MU

- 3/1/15 10:51:20

To not at least partially blame FH for this year is... - Lerxst MU

- 3/1/15 09:15:50

The only valid blame is that Clarkson/Brown bypassed their - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 09:24:41

You make it sound like FH had no idea those two were... - Lerxst MU

- 3/1/15 09:32:51

Haith added Price & Cam, and was recruiting Kreklow & - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 10:48:58

Jones/Cam would have stayed, probably. - Evenflow MU - 3/1/15 09:37:56

We will never know(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 09:35:58

Because that fits in with his Agenda. - bobby MU - 3/1/15 09:06:30

I think there are a lot of long time MU basketball... - Lerxst MU

- 3/1/15 09:19:21

I don't get it either - samclemens MU

- 3/1/15 08:46:38

Agenda man strikes. - bobby MU - 3/1/15 08:45:36

To be fair, he could honorably say Mike Alden - samclemens MU

- 3/1/15 08:33:30

He brought a stench with him from Miami that we - XRob MU - 3/1/15 08:37:45

Alden should have never let FH coach a game at MU... - Lerxst MU

- 3/1/15 09:01:06

Very true. He was a real snake with that - samclemens MU

- 3/1/15 08:45:01

D'angelo Allen plays 21 mins and once again has nearly - FLTiger4Life MU - 3/1/15 05:57:45

Allen will be a beast before his college days end - Mr. Orange UMKC - 3/1/15 13:52:38

He is a KV recruit like Isabell. Buckle up boys and girls - tigertix MU - 3/1/15 09:32:05

Though I wouldn't be surprised if his RBs/min. weren't - GA Tiger MU - 3/1/15 08:57:31

Not the type of player whose value can be captured in - FIJItiger MU

- 3/1/15 08:47:33

RE: Not the type of player whose value can be captured in - bobby MU - 3/1/15 08:52:37

there was a play he boxed his man out from a rebound so well - tiger4real MU - 3/1/15 08:28:17

Glad to hear he blocked out that play, now if he can just - FLTiger4Life MU - 3/1/15 08:42:24

RE: Glad to hear he blocked out that play, now if he can just - tiger4real MU - 3/1/15 09:34:54

Keep trying to polish that turd - mu7176grad MU - 3/1/15 08:31:46

Same story for almost every player - samclemens MU

- 3/1/15 06:00:02

Oddly enough, I can't yet determine if there is any - GA Tiger MU - 3/1/15 09:01:05

RE: Same story for almost every player - bobby MU - 3/1/15 08:53:55

Perhaps you could educate all of us on what each - SB in KC KC - 3/1/15 08:05:07

Their strengths add up to 44 points - mu7176grad MU - 3/1/15 08:37:22

I used to go to some of Norm's practices - samclemens MU

- 3/1/15 08:32:22

Lol(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 3/1/15 07:33:52

Well; there's always Option #2 for some ... - samclemens MU

- 3/1/15 07:40:53

Maybe they just dont buy in to a coach with no record at DI - sharpwp UNC - 3/1/15 08:37:36

Oh give up on this absurd D1/D2 crap, as if basketball is - GA Tiger MU - 3/1/15 09:02:39

8-21 speaks for itself - sharpwp UNC - 3/1/15 09:15:37

THEY'RE NEARLY ALL FRESHMEN. Its not - GA Tiger MU - 3/1/15 10:38:59

We shot like 23% yesterday(nm) - SB in KC KC - 3/1/15 08:05:52

His plodding offense hasn't delivered all year - samclemens MU

- 3/1/15 08:30:44

guess who has the highest shooting % on the team? - FLTiger4Life MU - 3/1/15 06:03:14

I'll go with Post & then Gant - a couple of guys that have - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 08:12:40

Its Post. 57% and he tends to get fouled more than the othe - FLTiger4Life MU - 3/1/15 08:39:03

Which means he should be getting the ball more. As - GA Tiger MU - 3/1/15 09:04:16

When do you guys think the new AD will be hired?? - Tigers_BB STL - 2/28/15 22:20:58

Not soon enough to fix this fiasco, thanks MA you're - tigertix MU - 2/28/15 22:29:29

RE: Not soon enough to fix this fiasco, thanks MA you're - Tigers_BB STL - 2/28/15 22:52:38

Coach Anderson will get at least 3 years to turn this - go tigers MU

- 2/28/15 22:37:27

How many times ru gonna say that? - sharpwp UNC - 3/1/15 08:44:58

RE: 2 years, and what positive results have come from his - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 07:44:14

Mister Table Manners will be remembered for .... - samclemens MU

- 3/1/15 05:57:52

Wrong, another year like this.. he's gone. (nm) - peterman'srealitytour MU - 2/28/15 23:50:27

I read this in a robot voice - the808bass MU - 2/28/15 22:53:54

They think if they say it enough times it will become true - MoGold MU - 2/28/15 23:17:35

RE: Coach Anderson will get at least 3 years to turn this - Tigers_BB STL - 2/28/15 22:53:33

3 years because and what are the issues? (nm) - Tgr83 MU - 2/28/15 22:46:09

puffy coats & flat billed caps(nm) - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 07:45:02

your posts are repetitive (nm) - BadAsh MU

- 2/28/15 22:38:22

21-7 14-2 RPI 41 - morry MU - 2/28/15 21:28:52

He is what his record says he is ... - samclemens MU

- 3/1/15 07:47:21

Frank.... Is that you? - bobby MU - 3/1/15 09:00:39

FH will run that program into the ground in a couple years.(nm) - Lerxst MU

- 2/28/15 22:35:53

Thats what some Mizzou fans want. - the808bass MU - 2/28/15 22:55:24

can't wait until he succeeds there(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/1/15 07:29:18

They are about to lose their next two games... - Salty Dog MU

- 2/28/15 22:12:49

you think? - morry MU - 2/28/15 22:13:54

SMU will embarrass them... - Salty Dog MU

- 2/28/15 22:15:21

By "embarrass", are you talking Vandy level embarrassment, - tigerdb MU - 3/1/15 08:20:00

This.(nm) - corpustiger MU - 3/1/15 08:26:37

yeah you already said that - morry MU - 2/28/15 22:17:29

Give Haith time. He will ruin Tulsa. - AllThingsKC MU

- 2/28/15 21:55:48

Frank couldn't stand dealing with Alden - DevilsAdvocate MU - 2/28/15 21:37:12

Frank saw the movie before in Miami... - Salty Dog MU

- 2/28/15 22:14:23

RE: Miami didn't crash, Larranaga got coach of the year with - 77TIGER MU - 3/1/15 04:16:06

Congrats Frank. One step closer to the NCAA(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 2/28/15 21:27:59

And another loss followed by a sharp decline..yay tulsa - Mr. Orange UMKC - 3/1/15 13:56:17

Not gonna get there... - Salty Dog MU

- 2/28/15 22:16:37

RE: Congrats Frank. One step closer to the NCAA(nm) - morry MU - 2/28/15 21:29:32

Their win at Memphis has them in as of now. - TXStiger MU

- 2/28/15 21:35:35

I'd expect Haith and Tulsa to be really good next season - morry MU - 2/28/15 22:08:40

RE: Congrats Frank. One step closer to the NCAA(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 2/28/15 21:34:27

RPI is fine, they have nothing else to brag about - morry MU - 2/28/15 22:07:23

pretty similar to Texas A&M (nm) - the808bass MU - 2/28/15 22:56:40

Brandon Rush thread below - - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 2/28/15 21:13:19

Far more recent potential problem - Fuller recruited Isabell - alstl MU - 3/1/15 08:34:23

RE: Brandon Rush thread below - - SpaceOddity KU - 2/28/15 22:09:06

You realize that part of that theory involves NCAA - 90Tiger MU - 3/1/15 06:27:16

RE: You realize that part of that theory involves NCAA - Uncle Chester KU - 3/1/15 10:24:45

Another Alden **** up - ERB KC - 2/28/15 22:09:04

Brandon flunked out of Westport. He never went to Pembroke - JCain816 KC - 2/28/15 21:31:22

RE: Brandon Rush thread below - - steviesly MU - 2/28/15 21:30:08

Funny people think its a giant kU conspiracy - TheNEWRemoteMan STL - 2/28/15 21:28:32

more like Alden the professional victim conspiracy (nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 2/28/15 21:41:06

correct that was on Alden. He should let his coaches - DevilsAdvocate MU - 2/28/15 21:22:39

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