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Juco forward that it looks like Mizzou is recruiting - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/18/21 09:09:10

I had almost forgotten Jayson Williams - jumbo73 MU - 4/17/21 13:54:52

     I'm not a big NBA fan, by any means, but I wish... - Deputy Dawg MU - 4/18/21 08:33:55

     Is he the big man we need ?????? (nm) - Uncle John MU - 4/17/21 22:05:33

     Played on the same high school basketball team - UMR85 MU - 4/17/21 18:44:28

          i feel like I saw an interview with williams where he was - lqf2b8 KC - 4/17/21 23:06:48

               I always though this was a classic commercial - Genco98 MU - 4/18/21 07:58:32

          Moss & Williams. Nice combination. - UMR85 MU - 4/17/21 18:46:41

     He singlehandedly won a game at Rupp - VirginiaGator UF - 4/17/21 17:59:08

     He really settled down and was great when he won with MIA(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/17/21 15:48:44

     RE: I had almost forgotten Jayson Williams - HSCoach STL - 4/17/21 15:24:49

     WHITE CHOCOLATE!!!! - BlackSheep MU - 4/17/21 14:41:07

          NBA needs a lot more like him.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 4/17/21 18:37:03

Would you trade a couple years of probation for a return to - TigerMatt - 4/17/21 13:46:24

     RE: Would you trade a couple years of probation for a return to - MUTGR MU - 4/17/21 22:03:10

     Can't return to that because of one and done plus transfers - alstl MU - 4/17/21 21:48:39

     Of course. We wouldn't be sacrificing anything in that deal. - zounami MU - 4/17/21 17:25:48

     my thoughts are - o'lineydisciple MU - 4/17/21 17:18:38

          If you have to cheat to win, I would rather play clean - raskolnikov MU - 4/17/21 21:59:08

          agreed(nm) - Ron Swanson MU - 4/17/21 17:29:47

     might as well be on probation the way next couple yrs look - Beakerbasher KC - 4/17/21 15:34:51

     Depends on what led to probation - FIJItiger MU - 4/17/21 15:19:07

          would be something totally off the wall like CM paying - tjjefferson MU - 4/17/21 17:12:51

          Mizzou is just worse at cheating than others(nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 15:25:41

               How have they ever cheated? I think there is - FIJItiger MU - 4/17/21 15:31:34

     What happens after probation? - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 15:08:11

     Hell YES!(nm) - BlackSheep MU - 4/17/21 14:41:44

     NCAA probation doesn’t really mean anything anymore - alwaysright MU - 4/17/21 14:28:49

     RE: Would you trade a couple years of probation for a return to - THINKINGTIGER MU - 4/17/21 14:09:52

          That's gotten us an empty arena and almost zero - Diamond Dave MU - 4/17/21 14:25:35

     No, because it can be done with the right coach and staff - tigertix MU - 4/17/21 13:47:53

          Been waiting for 27 years... when is that going to ever - TigerMatt - 4/17/21 13:52:40

Tigers new squad coming in, going to be alright 2 yrs - raskolnikov MU - 4/17/21 13:26:21

     RE: Tigers new squad coming in, going to be alright 2 yrs - JT Tomich MU - 4/18/21 05:32:57

     He actually got better than I thought, need to add two more - Uncle John MU - 4/17/21 19:13:50

     Probably. But many of the fans here remember the Norm - TigerMatt - 4/17/21 13:44:46

          I attended at party at Norm's house, thrown for friends - raskolnikov MU - 4/17/21 13:51:31

               I wonder if given a few more years if Quin would.have turned - TigerMatt - 4/17/21 13:55:54

                    I don't think he could turn it around until he hit rock - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/18/21 09:15:43

                    dude was in so far over his head it's a wonder he won as - Jeff80 MU - 4/18/21 01:54:44

                    Mizzou was a mess when he was fired - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 17:13:28

                    The circumstances were such - quicksand MU - 4/17/21 15:11:38

                         Fvck Alden what a dbag(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 4/17/21 19:53:16

                    I think he would have wound up a superior MU coach(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 4/17/21 14:44:13

Anyone know the scoop on an offer going to Lovelace a 2021 - MU-TULSA MU - 4/17/21 11:15:42

     A long range, "deep threat" - Cole Thornton MU - 4/17/21 13:03:04

     Lovelace is 2022 - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 11:21:41

          that would make sense, verbalcommits has him listed for 21, - MU-TULSA MU - 4/17/21 12:02:42

               Dunn was also originally a 21 recruit - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 12:09:16

     Bates isn't coming! - Sigma MU - 4/17/21 11:17:29

          Fat Lady hasnt sang yet, but she is approaching the front, n - MU-TULSA MU - 4/17/21 12:03:42

Matter article on Gordon - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 09:19:10

     Define winning everywhere - BurgTiger MU - 4/17/21 10:12:38

          His Purdue teams were very successful when he was a player(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/17/21 11:07:09

          You can look that up on something called "online" (nm) - zoomer 99 - 4/17/21 10:24:08

          He has won games everywhere he's coached, I guess. (nm) - Lerxst MU - 4/17/21 10:14:51

               So did Kim Anderson, just not nearly enough of them - MoGold MU - 4/17/21 12:00:53

Manek ends up at UNC - Ace MU - 4/17/21 07:28:32

     Is it a case of Cuonzo not wanting a diverse roster.... - El Zorro MU - 4/17/21 09:39:10

          Cuonzo has established himself as a racially divisive HC... - zounami MU - 4/17/21 16:38:54

               total BS from you as usual - Jeff80 MU - 4/18/21 01:58:13

                    When you can’t argue based on the facts - El Zorro MU - 4/18/21 06:17:17

               I should also add - This is why it's a bad idea for coaches - zounami MU - 4/17/21 16:44:31

                    RE: I should also add - This is why it's a bad idea for coaches - JT Tomich MU - 4/18/21 07:01:25

          Not to be racially inflamatory, but as a factual matter MU - FIJItiger MU - 4/17/21 10:46:49

               RE: Not to be racially inflamatory, but as a factual matter MU - Third_Eye STL - 4/17/21 13:43:45

                    "Black players tend to prefer to play for black coaches..." - zounami MU - 4/17/21 16:59:15

                         RE: - Third_Eye STL - 4/17/21 18:17:07

                    You make way too much sense to post on here....nm - HDTiger MU - 4/17/21 16:05:29

               People who come at an issue from opposite sides... - El Zorro MU - 4/17/21 11:06:44

                    RE: People who come at an issue from opposite sides... - JT Tomich MU - 4/18/21 05:21:38

                    Lol.Both can be racialist. CM has recruited white players - Sigma MU - 4/17/21 11:16:19

                         What's a racialist? - El Zorro MU - 4/17/21 11:33:04

                              Historically doesn't mean every. Dickinson signed w/ Michiga - Sigma MU - 4/17/21 11:38:53

                                   I think I'm just stating facts - El Zorro MU - 4/17/21 11:58:39

                                        He's the only one Howard recruited, which gets to your - Sigma MU - 4/17/21 15:51:26

                                             Calm down - El Zorro MU - 4/17/21 16:51:08

                                                  You're better when you make topics about you. - Sigma MU - 4/17/21 17:26:33

                                                       I am a renowned expert on me - El Zorro MU - 4/17/21 18:46:28

                                        Interesting path to go down to complain - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 12:14:04

                                             RE: Interesting path to go down to complain - MizzouGunner MU - 4/17/21 22:09:06

                                                  I agree X also shares in the blame. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 22:22:35

                                             Cant disagree with anything you listed. - El Zorro MU - 4/17/21 14:01:05

                    I don't think anyone is intending to indicate we have to - FIJItiger MU - 4/17/21 11:11:03

          Good Lord. Are you the guy Forest and his - MNTIGER MU - 4/17/21 09:59:31

               So since you’re resorting to name calling... - El Zorro MU - 4/17/21 10:19:02

                    So many non-factual comments in your original - MNTIGER MU - 4/17/21 12:12:24

                         Such as..... - El Zorro MU - 4/17/21 12:15:24

          You mean like CVL, Nikko and Braun? - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 09:53:31

               I agree with your premise....,. - El Zorro MU - 4/17/21 10:17:33

                    Geist not blonde but white, caucasian,you mean Braun(nm) - oldtgr MU - 4/17/21 10:25:00

                    Geist was KA. Braun is the guy you are referring to - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 10:21:44

                         I don’t know that having white players matters, but it - FIJItiger MU - 4/17/21 10:25:19

                         Just asking the question. - El Zorro MU - 4/17/21 10:24:46

                              Do you want diversity or to win? - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 10:32:54

                                   I don't think Cuonzo is doing a good job of either.... - El Zorro MU - 4/17/21 10:37:16

                                        Sounds like you have an issue with it. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 10:41:17

                                             0 non-blacks signed in 4 years? - El Zorro MU - 4/17/21 10:48:15

                                                  In a sport that’s about 15-20% white - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 10:53:28

                                                       20% = 1 out of 5. We see 0, 0, 0, 0. Not expected value.(nm) - DrViagra MU - 4/17/21 13:45:04

                                                            I bet the SEC is less white than that (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 15:08:58

                                                       Well - CM is at 0% on Scholarship Recruits - WrightWing MU - 4/17/21 10:56:05

                                   That would be a great question to ask the AD. (nm) - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/17/21 10:34:38

                                        The AD wants a clean program - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 10:42:55

                                             Mizzou isn't interested in championship level basketball - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/17/21 10:46:05

                                                  You can win that way. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 10:51:19

                                                       No it doesn't. You just hire a good coach. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/17/21 10:54:03

                                                            Muss is a good coach. He also turned Mizzou down - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 10:58:35

                                                                 Sterk overpaid Cuonzo and the seats will be empty. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/17/21 11:01:18

                                                                      Overpaid? He’s set to be the 9th or 10th highest paid - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 11:09:30

                    Kim Anderson recruited and signed Geist(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/17/21 10:20:54

                         You just answered my question from below - El Zorro MU - 4/17/21 10:22:06

                              Braun. (nm) - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/17/21 10:22:50

                                   Braun was a walkon, not recruited as a scholarship player(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/17/21 10:23:34

                                        Well, Cuonzo allowed him to be on the team. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/17/21 10:27:04

                                             Sure, we have had a number of white walkons. Not really - FIJItiger MU - 4/17/21 10:40:57

                                             That was mighty white of him - El Zorro MU - 4/17/21 10:28:30

               To be fair he didn’t sign any of those players(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/17/21 10:04:29

               And Vanover rides the pine for Arky(nm) - oldtgr MU - 4/17/21 09:59:31

               Took the words out of my mouth plus Geist(nm) - oldtgr MU - 4/17/21 09:57:38

                    He inherited all those players and had APR implications that - FIJItiger MU - 4/17/21 10:19:06

                         Fiji answered my question about Geist above. - El Zorro MU - 4/17/21 10:21:08

                              See my reply to your original question above (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/17/21 10:50:45

          I think it's more of a factor that he can't recruit. I mean - Lerxst MU - 4/17/21 09:43:10

247 on Bates mentions Oklahoma State and Mizzou - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 19:02:54

     RE: 247 on Bates mentions Oklahoma State and Mizzou - Ragarm MU - 4/17/21 08:07:16

          T Boone poured money into Okie Lite for years, he wanted to - MU-TULSA MU - 4/17/21 08:11:05

     It would be nice to see CM win one of these recruiting wars - MU-TULSA MU - 4/17/21 07:35:47

     I would be amazed if he lands at either Ok St or Mizzou. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 19:08:07

          And why the hell would you know. - MizzouGunner MU - 4/16/21 22:36:27

               WTF is your problem? The kid is a top recruit that was - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/17/21 01:06:27

                    Wrong - NWMOTiger MU - 4/17/21 06:57:58

                         It's funny how we are always 'very much in play' for all - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/17/21 08:48:48

                              Bates is not on the same level as Cunningham - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 08:57:37

                                   I was not the one who suggested that he was. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/17/21 09:40:29

                                        You keep wanting them to run a motion offense - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 09:51:40

                                             Pictures of what they claim to run is NOT a good source. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/17/21 10:01:21

                                                  It’s not pictures - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 10:05:19

                                                       You are probably right on NBA iso, my info was dated there - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/17/21 10:16:15

                                                            It’s not what Mizzou claims they run - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 10:18:25

                                                                 Did you even read what I just posted? Every team has a - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/17/21 10:36:36

                                                                      The executed the offense fine - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 10:40:25

                                                                           Yep, the offense was great this season. Nothing to see - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/17/21 10:52:18

                                                                                That video doesn’t show the whole possessions - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 10:55:26

                                                                                     Right it only shows the portion of the possessions where - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/17/21 12:57:04

                                                                                          It’s not a motion offense - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 13:04:07

                                                                                               There is no such thing as a motionless offense in BB. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/17/21 16:24:15

                                                                                                    There’s plenty of movement within the offense. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 17:14:59

NY2LA top performers - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 18:29:22

Oladapo final 2 - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 17:19:59

     I'm hoping CM can do better than looking at this as a lose, - MU-TULSA MU - 4/17/21 07:50:52

     Wait? Cuonzo recruited this putz & still missed? - Frank Underwood MU - 4/16/21 23:04:57

          RE: Wait? Cuonzo recruited this putz & still missed? - HSCoach STL - 4/17/21 06:03:08

     Brutal. He said he wanted "bigger and better options" - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 17:25:42

          Could it be we never offered? - namres MU - 4/16/21 17:29:28

               Could be. We definitely "reached out to him" (nm) - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 17:30:54

                    nothing in the transfer portal confirmed - tjjefferson MU - 4/16/21 22:25:06

     Titans, is that Cal State Fullerton?(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 17:23:28

          them or Detroit Mercy (nm) - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 17:26:16

     Who? (nm) - Lerxst MU - 4/16/21 17:21:54

Haith was a great coach - ran a perfectly clean program - alstl MU - 4/16/21 16:31:32

     Worst MU coach ever not named Kim. Nm - BandG MU - 4/16/21 19:29:49

          Statistics beg to differ. I say this as someone who wanted - ImpalaSS KC - 4/16/21 23:19:04

               The good thing is he ran a clean program - zero NCAA - alstl MU - 4/17/21 07:50:04

          The NCAA sanctions were just a rumor - no validity - alstl MU - 4/16/21 21:37:34

          And yet he won more games in three seasons than CM has - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 20:34:37

               Most of those were with MAs players...you could have... - BandG MU - 4/17/21 09:56:40

               Haith was similar to Self, Williams, Pearl, Calipari - alstl MU - 4/17/21 09:55:55

     you convinced me to crack a beer(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 4/16/21 16:33:05

Meanwhile, in Knoxville... - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 16:28:43

     Tenn is the one SEC school that I enjoy watching fail. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 19:11:18

     So, interesting thing about Barnes.... - alwaysright MU - 4/16/21 17:31:48

     I thought Barnes was a good hire he’s better than i thought* - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 16:33:56

Is the transfer portal bad for college basketball (link) - Third_Eye STL - 4/16/21 15:20:13

     the on court game was horrible long before the portal - Jeff80 MU - 4/16/21 20:58:46

     It is idiotic imo. Just enhances the trophy for everyone - Erwin Fletcher STL - 4/16/21 18:02:16

          Don't agree. It gives a chance for a good player, - GA Tiger MU - 4/16/21 19:52:28

     IMO colllege basketball has been broken for a while anyways - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 15:29:29

          RE: IMO colllege basketball has been broken for a while anyways - KC rules MU - 4/16/21 16:11:53

          I agree holding a 18-20 to a decision when the coaches can - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 15:45:44

               If a coach leaves then those kids should be able to leave I - Erwin Fletcher STL - 4/16/21 18:04:12

               Yes. You sleep in the bed you make, if somebody else changes - alwaysright MU - 4/16/21 15:47:04

          2 things - alwaysright MU - 4/16/21 15:45:37

               Back when I still worked, during the last few yrs of work - MU-TULSA MU - 4/16/21 15:57:53

                    The same with young teachers for the last 10-15 years. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 17:56:31

                    Today, it's much easier to move upward by changing jobs - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 16:57:09

                    20 years ago, a major study was done interviewing - alwaysright MU - 4/16/21 16:28:37

               I have always thought the NCAA should allow players to go - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 15:49:29

                    I agree but the draft would have to be in April to not - alwaysright MU - 4/16/21 16:25:40

                         Yes, to work it would have to be up to the - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 17:26:02

     following up on your prediction. when will this one happen? - festivus MU - 4/16/21 15:25:43

          RE: following up on your prediction. when will this one happen? - Third_Eye STL - 4/16/21 17:53:19

     The portal isn’t the problem.The free agency aspect of it is - alwaysright MU - 4/16/21 15:25:18

Coleman - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 12:38:50

     Prince - Genco98 MU - 4/16/21 13:59:11

     Have we had a better basketball name than Boogie Coleman?(nm) - itznotwillis MU - 4/16/21 13:21:59

          Bizarro Kramer(nm) - Diamond Dave MU - 4/16/21 15:00:25

               God Shammgod (nm) - kingcoin MU - 4/16/21 16:23:36

          High-pockets Templeton- lqf2b8(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/16/21 13:53:09

          Herman Peeper (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/16/21 13:51:52

          Darryl mutherfu*ckin' Butterfield(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 4/16/21 13:44:51

          Vodaitus Volkus(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 4/16/21 13:44:21

          "Big County”..............aka Dustin Reeve(nm) - MNTIGER MU - 4/16/21 13:42:11

               nice (nm) - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 13:43:19

                    Too bad that coaches don’t have a sense of humor anymore. - MNTIGER MU - 4/16/21 13:44:54

                         coaches still have it - JayHoaxH8r MU - 4/16/21 15:30:16

          Doc Nice Hardy (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/16/21 13:38:04

               Cool Breeze Buntin (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/16/21 13:38:16

                    RE: Cool Breeze Buntin (nm) - Radical Tiger MU - 4/16/21 14:21:38

                    Greg The Hammer Church (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/16/21 13:38:27

                         Who was that little geek from Ohio - Genco98 MU - 4/16/21 15:25:54

                              Was it Mike Wawrzyniak? (nm) - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 16:10:36

                                   high socks and sweet blond permed mullet (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/16/21 17:13:37

                                   It was I just looked it up - Genco98 MU - 4/16/21 16:15:17

                         The BandAid Man (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/16/21 13:38:39

                              Sandman Mike Sandbothe(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/16/21 13:39:04

          large Hardge the barge (nm) - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 13:38:00

          Flying Aardvark - JayHoaxH8r MU - 4/16/21 13:36:54

          pulley(nm) - Fred G. Sanford USA - 4/16/21 13:31:46

          Negus Webster-Chan (nm) - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 13:31:40

               Negus puh-leeeeze(nm) - Diamond Dave MU - 4/16/21 15:00:57

          Uche Glasseye(nm) - Fred G. Sanford USA - 4/16/21 13:31:06

          Prince Bridges(nm) - Fred G. Sanford USA - 4/16/21 13:30:41

          Moon McCrary(nm) - alstl MU - 4/16/21 13:27:39

          Ryan Rosburg(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 4/16/21 13:26:55

          Mark Wampler(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/16/21 13:25:09

     here's another - Missiurifarmboy MU - 4/16/21 13:17:12

          watching that, I feel like we totally misused him.(nm) - MNTIGER MU - 4/16/21 13:43:56

               Also he played in class 2A... SEC was too much for him(nm) - blackngold MU - 4/16/21 14:42:09

                    Whitfield was 3A - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 16:30:56

                    Sorta like Otto Porter? - JayHoaxH8r MU - 4/16/21 15:14:05

                         Porter was an elite athlete - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 16:33:13

                              Do you get the talking points straight from the staff? - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 16:36:26

                                   Do you watch the games ? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 17:19:40

                                        Yeah. I also saw him play in HS (nm) - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 21:37:49

                                             And you thought Watson = Otto Porter? - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 21:55:56

                                                  No. And nothing I typed could be used to reasonably infer - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 23:30:18

                                                       That was the start of this sub thread - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 08:42:46

Are we winning more or less than expected in SEC? - LamarFrazier MU - 4/16/21 10:10:30

     RE: Are we winning more or less than expected in SEC? - HSCoach STL - 4/16/21 14:04:01

          We raised the bar for every team in the SEC - 68-69ron MU - 4/16/21 17:29:33

          yeah SEC owes BB success to us. (nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 4/16/21 17:25:56

     Seems pretty obvious doesn’t it? (nm) - Outsider MU - 4/16/21 12:33:49

     "Ol Miss owns us, next dumb question.........nm - tigertix MU - 4/16/21 12:18:10

          I look forward to all of your posts(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 4/16/21 12:27:01

     much less. the frank haith years should be viewed as - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 12:12:00

          Why should we claim to be above programs like - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 12:16:58

               Which one of those has had better programs? - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 12:33:11

               those programs have not been historically better. not close. - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 12:28:10

                    Spending is a big issue - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 13:55:10

                         agreed. it's a problem (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 14:24:28

                              To have higher expectations the AD needs to invest more - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 16:35:08

                    So NCAA appearances count? - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 12:29:42

                         MS St FF year team wasnt great - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 12:36:23

                              RE: MS St FF year team wasnt great - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 12:44:16

                                   Its a ridiculous single metric for measuring a program (nm) - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 16:38:07

                                   those were fluke years for them. i'd say the fact we haven't - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 12:47:08

     A historic downturn in our program plus SEC football - jlbomega MU - 4/16/21 11:51:27

          yeah, Bama doubles our basketball spending now - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 11:54:54

     It's pathetic is what it is. nm. - MUTGR MU - 4/16/21 11:40:51

     MU's program collapse since joining the SEC has - FIJItiger MU - 4/16/21 10:43:37

          It's more about coaching and chemistry - KC rules MU - 4/16/21 21:23:29

          The assumption at the time was that we would struggle to - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 11:20:18

          Our ascension toward the middle of the pack could be - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 10:49:34

               How badly did that hurt Southern Cal? - ERB KC - 4/16/21 16:10:59

          I have to agree. I thought we'd be a consistent Top 4... - Lerxst MU - 4/16/21 10:49:10

               It makes me wonder if the SEC is also tougher - LamarFrazier MU - 4/16/21 11:18:56

                    It definitely is in my opinion. Our 2012-13 team is - FIJItiger MU - 4/16/21 13:47:02

                    The SEC has definitely upped their game in BB since we - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 11:23:10

               Yep. CM was tasked with rebuilding. Really could have - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 10:52:44

                    I agree with everything you said with the exception of CM's - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 11:28:24

                         RE: I agree with everything you said with the exception of CM's - Third_Eye STL - 4/16/21 13:08:57

                              Stop already! The Porters were coming to Mizzou as long as - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 13:28:24

                         My only point is that if he cheated the way Will Wade - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 12:13:15

                              Agree with everything you posted there. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 12:43:14

     The SEC expected us to be top 4 every year. - alwaysright MU - 4/16/21 10:27:03

          According to what? - Genco98 MU - 4/16/21 10:58:27

               They talked openly about how Missouri would improve the - alwaysright MU - 4/16/21 11:59:23

                    I don't recall that - Genco98 MU - 4/16/21 12:31:40

                         no pretty sure that was coming from coaches, ADs and - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 12:48:48

               I think it was general knowledge that we were - Tptiger MU - 4/16/21 11:38:08

          We finished top 4 in 2/15 years prior to joining the SEC - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 10:35:05

               SEC vs Good Big 12 - alwaysright MU - 4/16/21 11:58:17

                    This is a myth - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 12:03:01

               yikes. 9/15 tourney teams in prior 15 (nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 4/16/21 10:36:06

                    What does that have to do with expecting MU to be top 4? (nm) - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 10:45:14

                         it's directly related to the success in prior 15 yrs(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 4/16/21 11:03:50

          they sound dumb(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/16/21 10:31:34

     if we finish above 13th in SEC, we're above expectatations - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 10:23:30

          link to budget? - LamarFrazier MU - 4/16/21 10:25:01

               RE: link to budget? - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 10:27:01

                    Outspend Georgia (!) and Mississippi St (nm) - DrViagra MU - 4/16/21 10:36:13

                    thanks(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 4/16/21 10:35:36

     It is funny that Kim’s best finish was 2-16 record. - DrViagra MU - 4/16/21 10:20:42

          Drinkwitz’s energy may give bball the margin needed to be - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 12:10:50

          I thought he got to 3 one year. (nm) - mizzou john MU - 4/16/21 11:29:23

          He was just a disaster. (nm) - Lerxst MU - 4/16/21 10:50:34

Lots of great players in the portal - lhs MU - 4/16/21 09:47:40

     We look ok from an outside looking in, but need a - MU-TULSA MU - 4/16/21 10:51:43

     We got a 40+ percent 3 point shooter - Eggs MU - 4/16/21 10:09:04

          40+ percent 3 point shooter against weak competition - tigertix MU - 4/16/21 12:19:47

               Yep Even better against P5 - NWMOTiger MU - 4/16/21 12:55:10

          We need a high APG/ball handler and a post - jlbomega MU - 4/16/21 11:59:24

     yeah, this board would love it if we hadn't signed anyone - TigerA MU - 4/16/21 10:04:07

     we still have 2 spots(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 4/16/21 10:02:19

     Nope - NWMOTiger MU - 4/16/21 09:51:38

Martin on incoming class - Third_Eye STL - 4/16/21 09:41:01

     Here’s the competion McKinney will play against at NMSU - MNTIGER MU - 4/16/21 11:40:39

          I’m sure McKinney would like to change some things - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 12:20:08

               RE: I’m sure McKinney would like to change some things - MNTIGER MU - 4/16/21 12:30:41

                    I would be more amenable to this argument without all the - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 21:41:33

                         What other data? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 21:50:29

                              Transfers from the program are not limited to “uncoachable” - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 23:34:06

                                   So McKinney getting kicked off his juco team - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 09:08:34

                    Or maybe if he went to class - NWMOTiger MU - 4/16/21 12:58:50

     Have you seen Jackson’s stats at Seton Hall ? Especially - MNTIGER MU - 4/16/21 09:54:47

          He’s playing behind a unanimous All Big East player there - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 09:57:34

               14 minutes in 3 games?? Less than Wilmore, Okongo, and - MNTIGER MU - 4/16/21 11:29:21

               if he could've contributed they would've found minutes - TigerA MU - 4/16/21 09:58:48

                    Thats fair. If we don’t see anything out of Tray in 21-22 - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 12:04:15

                         The talent is obviously there for Jackson. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 20:06:34

                    nah man 14-13 Seton Hall was stacked w/ pros - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 10:10:52

                         he didn't develop him at all in the year he was here(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/16/21 10:12:21

                              I know. It's Cuonzo's fault Tray didn't play at Seton Hall - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 10:13:57

                                   Perfect - 68-69ron MU - 4/16/21 20:03:47

                                   LOL (nm) - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 10:44:32

                                   haha(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/16/21 10:16:12

     That may be true, but those guys haven't exactly - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 09:48:07

          RE: That may be true, but those guys haven't exactly - Third_Eye STL - 4/16/21 09:58:46

               I agree with that. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 10:03:56

     He has almost no idea why he plays the players he does - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 09:43:47

Durogordon - Third_Eye STL - 4/16/21 09:05:08

     Kind of odd how he swings his arms so far behind him - FIJItiger MU - 4/16/21 09:11:58

          Does it count as a turnover if he swings his arms after a - eatatjoes MU - 4/16/21 09:39:27

               only 20% of a turnover (nm) - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 09:42:04

               LOL(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/16/21 09:40:52

          RE: Kind of odd how he swings his arms so far behind him - Third_Eye STL - 4/16/21 09:35:14

          Good point - K - Vegas - 4/16/21 09:17:24

               Agreed. Seems like he's working hard already, getting - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 09:33:10

     very nice(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/16/21 09:06:18

A positive hypothetical spin for the future - FIJItiger MU - 4/16/21 08:57:39

     you sounded relatively normal the first two paragraphs - Jeff80 MU - 4/16/21 11:59:41

     RE: A positive hypothetical spin for the future - SEMO_Hillbilly UMKC - 4/16/21 10:04:02

          RE: A positive hypothetical spin for the future - SEMO_Hillbilly UMKC - 4/16/21 10:04:14

     I don't think this is a positive spin. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 09:11:29

          Well that is the one that give me the most possible hope - FIJItiger MU - 4/16/21 09:13:33

               LOL(nm) - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 09:31:34

Who are we beating in recruiting battles? - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 08:53:36

     Kaleb, Kobe, Durugordon, Coleman and Keita - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 09:22:43

          Gorden had offers from Xavier, KSU, Ole Miss, Nebraska - MizzouAstro MU - 4/16/21 10:10:02

          Coleman's offers out of HS: - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 09:54:21

               He had lots of offers out of Ball State. (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 09:59:21

                    who? (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 09:59:50

                         Georgia, Wake Forrest - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/17/21 09:54:46

                         Duke, UNC, Kentucky, UCLA, Bulls, Nets, Lakers(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 4/16/21 10:11:28

          And Parker Braun had an Arizona offer(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 4/16/21 09:50:06

               wonder if that offer still stands. he's transferring, right? - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 09:57:03

                    To Santa Clara. I doubt they were competing with - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 09:58:33

          kaleb brown's offers: - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 09:36:00

               I don’t think he had offers from your list after Va Tech - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 09:40:56

                    my bad - you're right - i'll edit (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 09:45:10

                         It’s nice to at least not lose to Ole Miss for once (nm) - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 09:48:27

                              lol. i'll agree with that (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 09:54:45

               That's a pretty decent list. (nm) - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 09:37:21

                    really? for who? - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 09:44:06

                         Without Florida or Georgetown or WVU, it isn't as good. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 09:57:29

               sean durugordon's offers: - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 09:37:15

                    Didn't he have a unique recruiting story? - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 09:38:57

                    yaya keita's offers: - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 09:38:22

     They are just names until we see them on the court - alstl MU - 4/16/21 09:22:28

     K-State, Ball State & Wisconsin-Green Bay. BlueBloods(nm) - WrightWing MU - 4/16/21 09:18:46

     Illinois is the only program we have beaten consistently - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 09:13:47

     Recruiting is about momentum, we have lost it - FIJItiger MU - 4/16/21 09:06:31

What encapsulates my view of the Martin era: - slamduncan KC - 4/16/21 06:33:33

     To be fair, we have to consider where we were when - MNTIGER MU - 4/16/21 09:40:43

          Losing MPJ hurt, but don't forget that the recruiting class - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 09:58:09

          It's still baffling to me how the MPJ injury went down.(nm) - sprintcar STL - 4/16/21 09:47:03

     Chang era > Martin era.(nm) - Carlos Rossi KC - 4/16/21 09:39:35

     Missouri hasn't won the regular season conference title - alstl MU - 4/16/21 08:56:44

     until the people in power care about w's & l's, they have - TigerAlum91 MU - 4/16/21 08:45:37

          RE: until the people in power care about w's & l's, they have - Third_Eye STL - 4/16/21 09:00:03

     For 3 yrs from 2014-17 we were the worst program - FIJItiger MU - 4/16/21 07:49:51

          We made the tourney. We are relevant (nm) - TigerA MU - 4/16/21 07:58:19

               I’ll let you guys argue relevant but this is an indisputable - alwaysright MU - 4/16/21 08:44:44

                    i never said otherwise although thinking someone is a pussy - TigerA MU - 4/16/21 08:53:49

                         Be in the middle. - alwaysright MU - 4/16/21 08:56:13

                              for CM i think that's true. he hasn't been great and hasn't - TigerA MU - 4/16/21 09:00:22

               Half of the P5 teams make the tourney every year. Tourney - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 08:31:28

                    i would say being average is relevant. would obviously like - TigerA MU - 4/16/21 08:34:42

                         Really? Can you name the last three teams to finish 7th in - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 08:40:21

               Lol(nm) - redngray MU - 4/16/21 08:23:06

               And we did it the right way(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/16/21 08:01:24

               We are somewhat relevant to our own fanbase - FIJItiger MU - 4/16/21 08:00:26

                    Not exactly true. Our "relevancy" dipped at the end of the - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 08:21:13

                         RE: Not exactly true. Our "relevancy" dipped at the end of the - SEMO_Hillbilly UMKC - 4/16/21 10:28:25

                         Definitely, we were nationally relevant for various points - FIJItiger MU - 4/16/21 08:33:07

                              RE: Definitely, we were nationally relevant for various points - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 08:36:26

                              Almost every season there is a team that cracks the top ten - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 08:35:16

                                   At the end of noncon play we were definitely nationally - FIJItiger MU - 4/16/21 08:45:16

                                   Yes it did. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 08:37:51

                                        Relevance is not that transitory in my opinion. Every year - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 08:46:24

                                             RE: Relevance is not that transitory in my opinion. Every year - Third_Eye STL - 4/16/21 10:19:01

                                                  VCU did for a couple of years, they lost their coach and - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 11:41:03

                                             Yeah, so we have different definitions of it. That's fine. (nm) - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 08:48:19

     Mid-stride to an era - raskolnikov MU - 4/16/21 07:16:27

          Not a fan but Haith averaged 25 wins in his tenure and won a - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 08:33:16

               It's crazy to think... - BayStateTiger MU - 4/16/21 08:45:44

                    The more Haith got his own players the less he won (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 08:54:22

                         How is that different from CM? He won some in year one with - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 09:53:20

                              Maybe there really are people that think - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/18/21 09:04:37

     A mediocre program under a mediocre coach. If this board is - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 07:09:49

          i haven't seen anyone say he is great and certainly the - TigerA MU - 4/16/21 08:29:14

               ^^This^^ - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 08:55:17

                    It is also appropriate for fans to want a successful program - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 10:00:52

                         See, you and I just don't see eye to eye on much. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 10:09:59

                              Weak P5 conference, I am not comparing us to the MAC or - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 11:48:19

                                   I don't know what gives you that impression, but I know - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 11:54:41

                                        Since 2000, a bit before we joined the SEC but close enough. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 12:11:24

          We are 10 games under .500 in SEC play under Martin - FIJItiger MU - 4/16/21 07:53:23

               In our best years under Martin, we are a little above - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 08:06:36

                    My personal assessment of the odds of each of your scenarios - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 08:28:31

                         Got it. I know you are more pessimistic than I am about - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 08:47:42

                              Pointing out that our coach has not accomplished anything in - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 08:53:45

                                   RE: Pointing out that our coach has not accomplished anything in - Third_Eye STL - 4/16/21 10:35:20

                                        So others can express their opinions time after time but it - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 11:50:56

                                             That's not true. They post on a number of topics. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 11:57:02

                                                  You are a little myopic in your assessment. I have posted - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 12:17:37

                                   RE: Pointing out that our coach has not accomplished anything in - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 09:05:38

                                        None of those were bashing our coach. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 09:34:29

                                             No. I think it's fine to criticize the program. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 09:42:57

                                   That isn't true at all. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 08:58:38

                                        He has averaged 8th place finishes in the SEC. Has never - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 09:45:49

                                             This I agree with... - BayStateTiger MU - 4/16/21 10:09:42

                                                  Yep. Salaries are completely inflated. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 10:11:19

                                             So the only "accomplishments" a coach can have is to - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 10:01:56

                                                  You just listed a bunch of participation trophies and tried - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 12:01:40

                    I think they probably finish between 1 & 2 next season (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 08:13:31

                    I agree with that completely - FIJItiger MU - 4/16/21 08:10:20

          This(nm) - WrightWing MU - 4/16/21 07:49:23

          Sometimes it's not the message... - BayStateTiger MU - 4/16/21 07:16:53

               You are going to hurt yourself straddling that fence(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/16/21 07:59:01

                    HAHAHA... - BayStateTiger MU - 4/16/21 08:04:50

               Mizzou hasn’t been a yearly Tournament team in 30 years - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 07:40:08

                    No offense, but you have become one of the most negative - FIJItiger MU - 4/16/21 07:57:09

                         RE: No offense, but you have become one of the most negative - TONYTIGR MU - 4/16/21 08:19:53

                              None taken (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/16/21 08:28:54

                         Probably a Sterk plant. (nm) - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/16/21 08:01:45

                         There’s an expectation that doesn’t match the history - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 08:01:39

                              Its odd how only people who don't recall or weren't - FIJItiger MU - 4/16/21 08:05:50

                              Its going to take a better coach too(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/16/21 08:02:29

                                   That’s possible - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 08:10:42

                                        The difference with Drew is he has been able to - DollarSigns MU - 4/16/21 08:24:29

                                             His best team wasn’t with elite recruits - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 08:42:56

                                        And you also see coaches who never get very good, or - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/16/21 08:16:36

                                             Sure that’s a possibility as well - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 08:20:06

                                                  I think that's the point that makes me mildly hopeful. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 12:00:34

                    It will basically happen overnight at Arkansas. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/16/21 07:50:07

                         Anderson won 60% of his games at Arkansas - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 07:56:20

                    Mizzou has a lot better history in a lot of people's minds - sprintcar STL - 4/16/21 07:47:19

               the excuses are beginning to run out...the rest of your post - tigertix MU - 4/16/21 07:29:07

                    Another problem... - BayStateTiger MU - 4/16/21 08:03:40

                         Your take is the right one. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 08:12:01

                              Yep. I'm with you guys too. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 09:34:34

AR to Muss - here's $20 million please stick around for 5 yr - tigerinhogtown STL - 4/15/21 21:38:14

     So you going to shout, Woooooooooo, Pig! Sooie - MU-TULSA MU - 4/16/21 05:44:22

          I can not tell a lie... Wait thats a lie - tigerinhogtown STL - 4/16/21 06:36:27

               Me too. My daughter went to school there. Great town, - Lerxst MU - 4/16/21 09:51:19

               I had a vendor that called on me when I worked, huge Hog fan - MU-TULSA MU - 4/16/21 08:17:46

     I assume you live in NW Arkansas - DevilsAdvocate KC - 4/16/21 04:51:30

     Sterk gave Cuonzo $21 million (nm) - zounami MU - 4/15/21 22:13:28

Counzo whiffed on Bishop. Another miss(nm) - ZouMiz STL - 4/15/21 20:50:40

     We never recruited him he doesn't want to play the 5 - tjjefferson MU - 4/16/21 15:12:11

     The real solution? Sterk does his job right.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 4/16/21 08:04:01

     RE: Counzo whiffed on Bishop. Another miss(nm) - slamduncan KC - 4/16/21 06:30:32

          Arkansas wasn't either, but then they hired a good recruiter - zounami MU - 4/16/21 07:36:15

               You could say the same about our FB program. What we need - zounami MU - 4/16/21 07:38:13

                    Why not a bb version of Pinkel? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 07:41:14

     of course he did... recruiting players like that requires - zounami MU - 4/15/21 22:12:03

     He whiffed twice frankly... - jlbomega MU - 4/15/21 21:13:19

          RE: He whiffed twice frankly... - Third_Eye STL - 4/16/21 08:00:47

          It’s an interesting point about evaluating local talent. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 22:19:19

          RE: He whiffed twice frankly... - HSCoach STL - 4/15/21 22:10:38

     Mizzou isn’t winning recruiting comps against these schools - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 20:51:38

          So we should not offer any kid who has a legit offer - the808bass MU - 4/15/21 23:13:21

               No continue to recruit them - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 23:21:48

          He should be able to get into the mix at the very least - jlbomega MU - 4/15/21 21:14:27

          I posted here that he was considering Kansas. Was told - Beez90 MU - 4/15/21 21:00:05

               I was saying the same thing. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 21:15:02

               GOSh DANG IT! CUONZO DIDNT GET THE GUY FROM CREIGHTON - MizzouGunner MU - 4/15/21 21:04:14

                    RE: GOSh DANG IT! CUONZO DIDNT GET THE GUY FROM CREIGHTON - TONYTIGR MU - 4/16/21 08:27:09

                         Disagree he fits what Mizzou needs - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 08:29:35

                              RE: Disagree he fits what Mizzou needs - TONYTIGR MU - 4/16/21 09:14:20

                                   I do t think a 250 lb big is what they are looking for - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 15:29:11

Cuonzo on transfers - FIJItiger MU - 4/15/21 15:43:36

     It's just wierd - XRob MU - 4/15/21 20:16:01

          It's his chance to save his job - ERB KC - 4/16/21 09:07:29

          RE: It's just wierd - Mizzhope MU - 4/15/21 22:32:58

               Depends who they are competing against - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 22:40:34

          RE: It's just wierd - HSCoach STL - 4/15/21 22:12:03

     JG on transfers: meh - JG MU - 4/15/21 18:38:41

          Do you remember Ricky Frazier (nm) - Uncle John MU - 4/15/21 19:39:21

     Each of last 2 years he felt his team was underrated - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 16:46:33

          He was right this season. They were picked way below where - FIJItiger MU - 4/15/21 18:00:49

               They were picked 10th & played as 9th place in SEC - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 21:10:19

               We had enough talent to beat Alabama. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/15/21 19:17:39

               Lol they absolutely didn’t have the talent (nm) - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 18:11:16

                    This is a team who should have finished 12-6 in league - Eggs MU - 4/15/21 18:55:14

                         Certainly had a shot at it. We needed to be able to get - MNTIGER MU - 4/15/21 20:47:25

                         It wasn’t deep enough - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 20:40:09

                    We had the talent to win 4 more sec games. That’s 3rd and - alwaysright MU - 4/15/21 18:31:33

                    We had 2 all-SEC players and Pinson, who has the - Diamond Dave MU - 4/15/21 18:23:05

          50/50 - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 17:09:41

          I could give less than a damn about what CM says at this - longtimereader MU - 4/15/21 17:03:49

               Let me know when he’s right about something. - alwaysright MU - 4/15/21 17:12:22

                    Apparently Tilmon and Dru are signing with agent(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/15/21 18:10:45

                    many people feel that way about you as well - Jeff80 MU - 4/15/21 17:17:06

     and the narrative is in the last line - Yellow Weasel MU - 4/15/21 15:53:14

          RE: and the narrative is in the last line - HSCoach STL - 4/15/21 16:33:28

          That’s on him if they aren’t competitive - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 16:01:27

               without a doubt(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 16:03:54

Counzo confirms Tilmon and Dru to sign with agents - FIJItiger MU - 4/15/21 15:28:10

     of course... he encouraged them to (nm) - zounami MU - 4/15/21 22:10:51

     They can all have good long careers. I wish them the best. - Delicious MU - 4/15/21 15:34:58

          will be interesting to see how their careers play out. - phrejd KC - 4/15/21 15:57:50

               All look to be Euro-bound (nm) - raskolnikov MU - 4/16/21 07:20:14

               oh, none of them will be in the NBA. But they can all have - Delicious MU - 4/15/21 18:06:17

                    i just don't see dru as a pro. - phrejd KC - 4/15/21 18:24:03

                         The thing Dru has is drive, which enhances his skillset - Ohtiger MU - 4/15/21 18:58:37

                         Geist is doing awesome in Germany - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 18:25:53

                              if i want an update on what geist is doing i know who to ask - phrejd KC - 4/15/21 18:27:18

               My guess - FIJItiger MU - 4/15/21 16:02:56

                    The Cambodian league is up and coming(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 4/15/21 16:23:51

               Geist is about to get called up to the top Eruoleague. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 16:00:34

                    I agree. Dru is fundamentally sound and plays hard. - scif MU - 4/15/21 20:45:59

                         I think Mitch will do well as a pro. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 20:53:30

                              I hope so. And guys fill out at different ages. - scif MU - 4/15/21 22:27:23

USC gets probation - JayHoaxH8r MU - 4/15/21 14:13:56

     Same will happen for Auburn, LSU, Beakers - ERB KC - 4/16/21 16:12:37

     I'd be curious to see what the recruiting restrictions are - alstl MU - 4/15/21 21:01:18

          It's less than a slap on the wrist - ERB KC - 4/16/21 16:13:20

     Well they can't cite KU for cooperation. Have to find anothe - pinkman MU - 4/15/21 16:51:30

          Hopefully that second paragraph is a signal that ku is going - MNTIGER MU - 4/15/21 20:56:55

               Hoping has gotten Mizzou to where it is now - ERB KC - 4/16/21 16:15:17

     How many total years of postseason ban will this scandal - Eggs MU - 4/15/21 16:23:12

     It's always those pesky assistant coaches. (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 4/15/21 15:29:24

          Yep, the head coaches are aghast at the allegations (nm) - Ohtiger MU - 4/15/21 19:12:28

     And we didn't? Give me a freaking break. The NCAA - Erwin Fletcher STL - 4/15/21 14:29:04

          USC gets leniency for cooperating. Mizzou gets its - Ohtiger MU - 4/15/21 19:11:42

     good lord the ncaa is so freaking arbitrary (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/15/21 14:16:01

          Arbitrary is being kind ... It's corrupt. - ERB KC - 4/16/21 16:16:46

          RE: good lord the ncaa is so freaking arbitrary (nm) - HSCoach STL - 4/15/21 14:41:16

               you just can't help yourself, race troll (nm) - zounami MU - 4/15/21 22:09:37

               U R so dumb (nm) - Ohtiger MU - 4/15/21 19:13:21

               His 3rd down drops were much more damaging(nm) - Eggs MU - 4/15/21 15:21:07

               He was just one piece of that puzzle(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/15/21 15:13:24

               i'm not interested in how retarded you are (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/15/21 14:48:38

                    oh man - Cosmo MU - 4/15/21 15:04:33

                    HAHAHA(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 14:51:02

It's interesting that LSU hasn't actually announced Pinson. - Delicious MU - 4/15/21 13:12:55

     Can't comment on specific recruits until they sign - HissingPrigs77 MU - 4/15/21 13:19:45

     They have had a few transfers this week - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 13:13:44

more posts about terrance watson today than during - phrejd KC - 4/15/21 13:05:46

     I can commit to doing my part (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/15/21 13:56:32

     He would have been 1 of 4 returning players in his 4th year - Ace MU - 4/15/21 13:08:37

          my cat's breath smells like cat food(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 13:09:06

               lol(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 4/15/21 14:15:42

               lmao (nm) - Cosmo MU - 4/15/21 13:28:47

               lol (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/15/21 13:25:29

               Ralph Wiggum(nm) - ERB KC - 4/15/21 13:14:03

               LOL!!! Perfect answer to that post. (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 4/15/21 13:12:38

     DHighlander is creating a lot of content(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 13:06:52

          He's not the one that causes these daily wars on here though - Missiurifarmboy MU - 4/15/21 13:26:25

          dude is wound tight - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/15/21 13:09:22

               You guys are hilarious. I have stated multiple times that - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 16:38:26

                    They will replace the scoring. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 16:48:16

                         To replace that scoring guys will have to be more - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 17:29:11

                              Every team scores around 70-75 per game. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 17:35:51

                                   We don't have any bigs and no one is beating down our door - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 18:34:17

                                        Keita is already here. I have given some stats on similarly - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 21:13:20

                                             English and Demon? How about CMs recent freshmen? - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 22:07:58

                                                  You left Kobe out - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 22:29:51

                                                       I left Kobe out because he was already on your list. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 06:57:57

                                                            He’s not pulling 5 guys from the rec - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 07:13:51

               That dude is a poor representation of Mizzou fans - MizzouGunner MU - 4/15/21 14:36:31

Watson to me encapsulates the Cuonzo era at MU - FIJItiger MU - 4/15/21 08:49:05

     If he doesn't hate CM its a miracle....nm - tigertix MU - 4/15/21 18:29:50

     He reminds me a little of KJ Walton. A little overmatched at - sprintcar STL - 4/15/21 14:29:25

          One huge difference - FIJItiger MU - 4/15/21 14:31:30

               Walton took more threes both years at Mizzou than he has the - sprintcar STL - 4/15/21 14:48:40

                    I think Walton is a better comp for Davis. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 14:54:08

     If Watson was so talented he would have landed - MizzouGunner MU - 4/15/21 12:53:00

          brings up the point of why he was here in the first place - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 12:55:13

               He was here because he was a 4 star recruit with a national - KC rules MU - 4/15/21 14:13:15

          That is what was said about guys like - FIJItiger MU - 4/15/21 12:55:00

               I don’t think anyone was saying that about those 3(nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 13:20:55

               Wes doesn’t fit your argument - Ace MU - 4/15/21 13:17:48

     What kind of game do you think Watson has? - Ace MU - 4/15/21 12:12:29

          IMO, when he played initially - Mormad MU - 4/15/21 12:20:57

               While insightful, it doesn’t tell me what kind of game you - Ace MU - 4/15/21 13:03:10

               So what you're saying is that HCCM is a terrible coach - Cosmo MU - 4/15/21 12:30:31

                    I don't think he is a Cuonzo type of player - FIJItiger MU - 4/15/21 12:53:21

               This is the best evaluation on him i have seen here (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 12:27:20

     Cuonzo can't coach offense or coach players up on offense n - tjjefferson MU - 4/15/21 10:58:46

          It was the defense that was the reason Mizzou didn’t - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:00:50

               I don't see that, at least not as a coaching issue. If - GA Tiger MU - 4/15/21 11:25:48

                    He didn't coach a defense to his talent level. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:30:45

                         I thought the scheme was wrong on defense - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:34:45

                              Yup that's Anton & Kaleb right there. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:35:56

                                   It’s Durugodon, Brazile, Keita - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:38:05

                                        He will be looking for a soft spot after this year. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:41:03

                                             If he’s wrong on his recruiting he will (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:44:36

               It was the defense that didn't score for a bunch of - SabertoothTiger MU - 4/15/21 11:18:09

               yeah I guess the defense was who jacked all those 3's - tjjefferson MU - 4/15/21 11:03:19

                    It was the defense not getting stops and rebounds - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:07:34

                         A lot of that decline happened because Pinson was - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 11:09:50

                              There were many guys beat off the dribble. See TCU,Miss,etc - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:11:59

                                   That's true. The reason X is blamed is that - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 11:25:40

                                        Cuonzo has a bunch of excuses, but will say he's not making - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:28:03

                                             Honest question: what excuses has he made? - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 11:36:07

                                                  Previously Injuries. He had his friends in media(Matter,Hoch - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:40:19

                                                       Oh, so it's a conspiracy. I see.(nm) - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 11:41:41

                                                            The dude obviously has some kind of agenda against CM - Cosmo MU - 4/15/21 11:44:23

                                                                 Your next insightful post will be your first insightful post - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 13:13:13

                                                                      ok thanks (nm) - Cosmo MU - 4/15/21 13:29:38

                                                                 I know, right? - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 11:50:50

                                                            Nope. Cuonzo doesn't have guys in the media. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:43:12

                                   That seems to have been fixed. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:13:47

                                        lol.Right Cuonzo's building a Big10 team in SEC. Won't work - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:14:32

                                             he needs to stop devaluing players(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 11:23:46

                                                  His development erodes them & coaching devalues. Tilmon - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:30:04

                                                       impossible to know that but okay(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 11:31:27

                                                            Compare Tilmon's rate of development w/ Cockburn. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:34:50

                                                                 Compare it with Malik Williams, - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 11:49:51

                                                                      Re-check your facts on Williams class - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 13:14:25

                                                                           He’s in the same class as Tilmon - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 13:18:07

                                                                                See Highlander's list of post rated near Tilmon in his class - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 13:20:47

                                                                                     He’s ranked 27 here in that class - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 13:22:33

                                                                 lol, yes JT isn't an all-american. he was still very good - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 11:45:53

                                                                      He averaged 12ppg and 7rpg his senior year. For his career - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 12:34:59

                                                                           What a dumb comp to use - Cosmo MU - 4/15/21 12:36:19

                                                                                Why is it dumb both had a career average of 9.7 ppg and JT - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 12:43:31

                                                                                     Ok so you want to compare JT to another player - Cosmo MU - 4/15/21 12:46:50

                                                                                          You think JT and KP played different positions? Here is the - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 12:50:48

                                                                                               Yeah, they did. Did you watch Puryear play? - Cosmo MU - 4/15/21 12:55:30

                                                                 What about all the other bigs that developed less? - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:36:35

                                                                      You mean like Garza,Wadus,Lester Earl, etc. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:42:22

                                                                           I posted about Tilmon’s recruiting class - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:46:54

                                                                                As I suspected you are completely full of shlt! I just did - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 12:26:10

                                                                                     Here is the 247 ranking for that class - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 12:31:05

                                                                                          You claimed you were comparing him to other top prospects. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 12:46:57

                                                                                               His go-to-move is to change the narrative. You exposed him. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 13:18:08

                                                                                               You didn’t search to find the post with the breakdown - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 12:48:12

                                                                                Even if true, which I doubt. Does everybody else did worse - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 12:01:00

                                                                                     lol what? (nm) - Cosmo MU - 4/15/21 12:02:33

                                                                                          He claims that CM develops talent and as proof he says that - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 12:28:38

                                                                                               No, he claimed in that post that the other comparable - Cosmo MU - 4/15/21 12:34:06

                                                                                                    The 'others' that he was referring to were the top rated 5s - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 12:37:08

                                                                                                         That tells me you didn’t read the post breaking down - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 12:44:39

                                                                                                              I'm pretty sure he doesn't read posts - Cosmo MU - 4/15/21 12:49:01

                                                                                                         No, it's in the subject line - Cosmo MU - 4/15/21 12:44:15

                                                                                                              So by eliminating all of those that actually developed CM - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 12:55:26

                                                                                                                   5 stars that left after 1 season were developed? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 12:58:52

                                                                                                                        Enough to be in the NBA. Try this comparison then - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 13:30:31

                                                                                                                             just b/c there are better players doesn't mean JT didn't - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 13:34:55

                                                                                                                                  Look at his numbers over his four seasons and tell me he - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 13:47:16

                                                                                                                                       1) you can watch the games and see he improved. just - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 14:00:11

                                                                                                                                            I just posted below that he was 30th in scoring and 10th in - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 14:05:14

                                                                                                                                                 clearly the numbers were worthly b/c he got it and it isn't - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 14:10:45

                                                                                                                                                      DH is comparing JT to Puryear because the Mizzou page - Cosmo MU - 4/15/21 14:28:53

                                                                                                                                                           They were both bigs. Different styles but both played - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 17:01:35

                                                                                                                                                                KP played on the wing and rarely posted up - Cosmo MU - 4/16/21 10:07:52

                                                                                                                                                           haha, no ****(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 14:34:42

                                                                                                                                       Dig into his stats lots of areas of improvement - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 13:50:55

                                                                                                                                            Care to show those stats you think he deserved? - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 14:02:30

                                                                                                                                                 According Cuonzo yesterday he said he was top 4 - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 14:08:39

                                                                                                                             I included them and the others in that class - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 13:33:53

                                                                                                                                  You claimed that Tilmon did well in comparison once you - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 13:40:13

                                                                                                                                       He did do well. I didn’t say he was the best in his class (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 13:42:13

                                                                                                                                            He finished his career averaging less than 10 ppg and 5 rpg. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 13:50:01

                                                                                                                                                 It’s among the better stat lines for bigs in that class - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 13:52:10

                                                                                                                                                      There were 18 players in the SEC this season that had a - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 14:17:58

                                                                                                                                                           RE: There were 18 players in the SEC this season that had a - Third_Eye STL - 4/15/21 19:03:46

                                                                                                                                       what exactly makes you think he had that talent?(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 13:41:32

                                                                                                                                            His recruiting ranking and play his freshman year. JT had - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 13:56:37

                                                                                                                                                 he was all league this year. that makes him one of our - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 14:00:50

                                                                                                                   No, you're not reading or just don't care - Cosmo MU - 4/15/21 12:57:41

                                                                                     that isn't true though(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 12:01:58

                                             Big 10 team? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:16:38

     The only guy I saw who would pump fake at the 3 pt line - alstl MU - 4/15/21 10:32:14

          The mid-range game is pretty much gone from CBB. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 10:47:24

               I should do a film breakdown here. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 10:52:58

                    A lot of our movement is ineffective and really just - alwaysright MU - 4/15/21 12:24:45

                         Mizzou has been near the top of P6 teams each of the last 2 - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 13:16:21

                              I have never been one to argue that we did not get enough - alwaysright MU - 4/15/21 15:54:08

                                   Well it’s not really a motion offense. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 16:05:12

                    No you have made a bunch of claims about the offense - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 11:00:57

                         Here you go. I have posted it before. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:03:16

                              And as I responded when you posted it. That is a playbook, - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 11:54:28

                                   It’s a playbook based on video. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 13:31:34

                              Here’s the shot charts for Mizzou’s last three games. - the808bass MU - 4/15/21 11:14:31

                                   WOW! Am I reading this correctly? Only TWO made - MNTIGER MU - 4/15/21 11:42:04

                                        Not crazy, CM's offense. Wu-T would have you believe that - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 11:55:30

                                             It’s most offenses college and pro - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:58:19

                                        Might be why Mizzou went and got a guy like Davis - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:49:53

                                             And without development we can see him on video next season - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 11:56:19

                                                  That didn’t happen this season - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 12:48:59

                                                       You are either blind, stupid or CM's nephew.(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 18:37:26

                                   What does that have to do with the playbook - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:18:50

                                        You’re arguing yourself into a corner. (nm) - the808bass MU - 4/15/21 11:24:29

                                             I posted a link to the playbook. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:25:57

                                                  I thought we were arguing about mid range shots in the - the808bass MU - 4/15/21 11:46:53

                                                       Wu-T actually thinks pictures of the plays the team claims - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 11:58:03

                                                            Yeah, imagine using images and figures to teach others - Cosmo MU - 4/15/21 12:08:57

                                                            I see you didn’t go to the link - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:59:06

          That simply isn't true. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 10:46:27

               Shot charts tell a different story. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 10:57:22

                    Yes, our opponents in those games shot more - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 11:04:53

                    That’s good offense. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:00:05

          Dru Smith too. Dru was our offense for many spurts - FIJItiger MU - 4/15/21 10:41:58

     He's a 3 and D guy at the P6 level, i don't know what - playhard KC - 4/15/21 10:26:49

          If he could improve his ball handling, he could use his - Eggs MU - 4/15/21 10:29:25

               He might be able to bully ball some guys at a lower level - playhard KC - 4/15/21 10:35:29

                    Probably why he's heading to Elon now - Eggs MU - 4/15/21 10:42:39

     It's over it's past, time to move on, CM appears to have - MU-TULSA MU - 4/15/21 09:40:10

          There will be a new poor 3 pt shooter who will - FIJItiger MU - 4/15/21 10:38:44

               Will he be 6.10, shrink when he's in the post but gets mins? - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 10:41:03

          Do the Tigers still have two schollies open? - ERB KC - 4/15/21 09:58:22

               Mitchell Smith: the sequel and we’ll “bank” a scholarship - the808bass MU - 4/15/21 10:26:20

                    He’s talked about banking true scholarship before - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 10:46:07

                         I’m not sure there’s a qualitative difference b/w banking a - the808bass MU - 4/15/21 11:01:40

                              Guess averaged 15 & 10 this season - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:04:34

                                   He averaged zero pts and rebounds for Mizzou - the808bass MU - 4/15/21 11:16:56

                                   I averaged 25 & 15 in the gym. What does that mean? - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:06:06

                                        I bet you did. Guess is actually a proven D1 player now - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:10:01

                                             You said that about Wilmore. Please miss me with the B.S. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:13:01

                                                  When? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:14:09

                              From a quant standpoint can't offer a mid-season transfer. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:03:30

               Need a PF/C that can run the court and I am sure they - MU-TULSA MU - 4/15/21 10:00:21

               Yes - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 10:00:19

               Yes. CM said yesterday that he's going to fill at least one - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 09:59:54

     Wow. This post encapsulates your view of - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 09:33:25

          I disagree on athleticism - FIJItiger MU - 4/15/21 10:36:15

               I think you're wrong. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 10:59:02

                    You nailed it(nm) - BlackSheep MU - 4/16/21 05:45:53

     RE: Watson to me encapsulates the Cuonzo era at MU - TBrown MU - 4/15/21 09:27:19

          RE: Watson to me encapsulates the Cuonzo era at MU - Third_Eye STL - 4/15/21 11:48:34

          The problem with people on this board is that - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 09:44:42

               RE: The problem with people on this board is that - Third_Eye STL - 4/15/21 11:51:18

               I'm not talking player development in this post - FIJItiger MU - 4/15/21 10:27:59

                    I'm not just focusing on this year. His minutes were - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 11:41:16

               There’s an in between ground - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 09:51:51

                    Right. And I'm in that middle ground. Most people - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 09:55:37

                         I’m hopeful that after the 2020 class - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 10:08:40

                              I like this class too.(nm) - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 11:11:48

                                   You liked last year's class and the ones before. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:33:34

                                        Did I? Show me where I said that I liked last year's - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 11:43:32

                              I wouldn't say rarely. We haven't been since 2015 - FIJItiger MU - 4/15/21 10:30:23

                                   That's true. And a lot of us thought that CM would - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 11:21:30

                                        He's selling defense in an era of offense. Generation behind - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:23:19

                                             How do you know what he's selling? - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 11:28:45

                                                  Recruits say this all the time. Your nose is too far up his - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:32:50

                                                       RE: Recruits say this all the time. Your nose is too far up his - Third_Eye STL - 4/15/21 12:00:08

                                                            Only Wilmore,Chang & Buggs believed him last year. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 14:01:56

                                                       What are you talking about? - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 11:34:32

                                                            I've lost enough brain cells responding to you. Later. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:37:52

                                                                 Right. And you don't have many to spare. See ya.(nm) - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 11:51:49

                                   Even before 2015 Mizzou wasn’t a recruiting school - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 10:42:04

                                        I don't understand what that means, what is a recruiting - FIJItiger MU - 4/15/21 10:44:57

                                             Most of this roster is nationally recruited. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 10:50:26

                                                  MU's most successful class was 1979 - FIJItiger MU - 4/15/21 10:52:58

                                                       That was before I was alive. Players at their level - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 10:56:54

                                                            lol. fyi..life existed before you were alive. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 10:59:47

                                                                 Ok hold on to that period from the 70’s and 80’s - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:01:50

                                                                      MU was no good when they brought in that class, it was - FIJItiger MU - 4/15/21 11:05:29

                                                                      They said that about Houston! - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:04:24

                                                                           Houston actually fits with what I’m talking about - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:12:52

                                                                                Sampson develops while Cuonzo erodes. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:13:59

                                                                                     Except almost all the players that have been here - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:16:07

                                                                                          What areas did Mitch improve? Shot selection? Inside game? - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:20:19

                                                                                               Defense, rebounding. If you wanted him to be a post - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:22:35

                                                                                                    LOL.He's the same player he was as a soph for CM. He never - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:25:38

                                                                                                         He’s not a post. If that how you want to use him - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:27:04

                                   CM's biggest fans are the ones who think Mizzou's BB history - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 10:38:17

                                        They know, but selectively skip over the past. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 10:45:08

     Elon says more about him than you could if you rambled on - Jeff80 MU - 4/15/21 09:05:33

          Agree, I do not like the current way college bb is played - FIJItiger MU - 4/15/21 10:23:48

          What does Elon say about him? (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/15/21 09:17:17

               he couldn't consistently play at the sec level - Jeff80 MU - 4/15/21 10:17:39

               nm - Cosmo MU - 4/15/21 09:33:47

                    So thought provocative like your other post! - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:05:06

     Never developed his skill set ... - Ernie Webb III - 4/15/21 09:02:23

     Axle, Chang, Wilmore & Santos to me encapsulates Cuonzo era - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 09:01:52

     We don't look very good attacking the rim either. (nm) - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/15/21 09:01:30

     Was he not a good shooter in high school? I know that he - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 4/15/21 08:55:28

          His high school coach is on record as saying he's a scorer - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 09:03:21

          No (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/15/21 09:00:14

          Shot about 30% from 3 in both high school and AAU - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 08:56:49

     His athleticism was a limiting factor for him (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 08:50:19

          Yet its a strength defensively, and he is more athletic than - FIJItiger MU - 4/15/21 08:51:25

               But Pickett and Dru found other ways to score. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 09:35:45

                    Dru & Kass benefitted from teams not scheming against - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 09:41:52

                         Really? So let me get this straight... - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 09:46:51

                              BB 101. Teams scheme against others teams & priorotize - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 10:51:40

                                   Mid season teams quit staying attached to Mark - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 10:55:26

                                        Not true, but that's your observation. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:00:39

               Watson is less skilled than Pickett and Dru Smith - BlackSheep MU - 4/15/21 09:00:03

                    As I said below, I agree with that. So it is other areas - FIJItiger MU - 4/15/21 09:01:11

                         See below(nm) - BlackSheep MU - 4/15/21 09:03:39

               Dru was both a better shooter and ball handler. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 08:53:05

                    Agree. So it was other areas and not lack of athleticism - FIJItiger MU - 4/15/21 08:59:32

                         For Watson to be a good SEC player he had be a good - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 09:03:14

                              Elon is in North Carolina, and Iona is in New Rochelle NY. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 09:04:59

                                   My bad. The point is still true. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 09:06:14

                                        You mean that he's Boogie & Davis? - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 09:14:58

                                             or...Dru Smith and Kassius Robertson? (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 4/15/21 09:27:52

                                             No. They don’t play bulleyball - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 09:20:28

                                                  bulleyball as in actually driving, cutting, and picking as - Missiurifarmboy MU - 4/15/21 09:55:13

                                                       That isn't true at all. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 09:58:01

                                                            There was very little motion in this offense. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 10:53:32

                                                                 It wasn’t a motion offense (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 10:58:07

                                                                      Mizzou is in a select few where guys stayed stationary. Few - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:01:59

                                                                           It wasn’t a stationary offense either. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:24:28

                                                                                Giving old concepts a new name doesn't make you smart. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 14:00:55

                                                                                It's a lot harder when you don't actually understand any of - Missiurifarmboy MU - 4/15/21 13:11:44

                                                  lol..I am not impressed with the 3 tranfers. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 09:23:07

                                                       We will see next year how they translate - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 09:25:27

                                                            Gordon becomes a shooter (lol). Davis mechanics are slow & - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 10:58:32

                                                                 Ok Bookmark it. If Mizzou is bad then you will be right. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:32:22

                         What role other is there when a player lack dribbling and - BlackSheep MU - 4/15/21 09:03:11

                              He was never put in position to shoot a mid-range shot. Put - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 09:16:33

                                   That may be true but the question is why? - BlackSheep MU - 4/15/21 10:24:34

                                   That wasn't true until this year. His poor play led to - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 09:37:34

                                        Every year. Did you just start watching this year? - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:10:46

                                   RE: He was never put in position to shoot a mid-range shot. Put - TBrown MU - 4/15/21 09:29:53

                                        Agreed - BlackSheep MU - 4/15/21 10:40:35

Watson - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 19:13:14

     Good luck to him - MizzouAstro MU - 4/15/21 07:38:37

     That's a good fit. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 07:02:38

     Always loved his attitude. I really hope it works out for - zounami MU - 4/15/21 01:51:20

     Cuonzo lied to kid, devalued him & then ran kid off. Scum! - Sigma MU - 4/14/21 21:34:28

          a shooter that can't hit a shot has little value - Jeff80 MU - 4/15/21 08:20:42

          dumb(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 4/15/21 07:37:02

          Everyone got a redshirt (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 21:38:36

               Not everyone was lied to & devalued. Cuonzo will be in CAA - Sigma MU - 4/14/21 21:41:40

                    I don't get guys like you - Mormad MU - 4/14/21 23:07:09

                         Search & you will see I wrote Watson had potential & - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 08:42:37

                              so all of the guys that can't play are being used incorrectl - Jeff80 MU - 4/15/21 09:10:24

                                   Staff upsells them. Wilmore = Bradford. Chang 3 pt threat! - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 09:36:56

                              Well, if they can play and still retain eligibility what - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 4/15/21 08:57:41

                                   Red-shirts don't get the run the others get and are not - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 09:14:10

                                        RE: Red-shirts don't get the run the others get and are not - TBrown MU - 4/15/21 10:08:38

                                             CM's lack of system exposed his flaws, & didn't highlight - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 10:55:34

                                        Yeah, I understand that during a "normal" year, but this - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 4/15/21 09:17:35

                                             Cuonzo seemed to put him in on a "hunch" and jerk him - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 09:21:29

                                                  The rotations were easy to figure out this season - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 09:24:24

                                                       He played same guys but rotating was as baffling as before. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 10:56:13

                                                            Everyone knew when they were getting minutes - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 15:48:57

                              Everyone redshirted - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 08:45:28

                                   It affected his preparation, & staff's interaction w/ him as - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 08:57:29

                                        Then they aren't a very good coaching staff...red shirting.. - BandG MU - 4/15/21 09:15:43

                                             As a staff their "wing development" is not very good. SEC is - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 09:19:23

                                                  It’s been a recruiting failure. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 09:23:06

                         Simple...he wants attention (nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 4/15/21 04:36:59

                    Devalued, like a stock?Where can I buy some T Watson shares? - festivus MU - 4/14/21 22:35:03

                         Buy DaJuan Gordon and they may be de-listed. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 08:43:25

                              RE: Buy DaJuan Gordon and they may be de-listed soon. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 08:44:37

                    How was he lied to? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 21:42:30

                         Cuonzo high character act is a facade.His coaching has - Sigma MU - 4/14/21 21:48:12

                              RE: Cuonzo high character act is a facade.His coaching has - TBrown MU - 4/15/21 10:10:02

                                   Game recognizes Game. Folks in Tenn were right about him. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:21:58

                              you didn't answer his question(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 4/15/21 07:37:41

                                   That answer covers his question. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 08:43:55

                              Gee it doesn't sound like you have an agenda at all - Cosmo MU - 4/14/21 22:01:47

                                   "You can't handle the truth". 2 more yrs of excuses - Sigma MU - 4/14/21 22:09:27

                                        Don’t be a dip****(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 4/15/21 04:37:38

                                             impossible(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 4/15/21 07:37:53

                              That didn’t answer the question (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 21:53:49

          Or, he didn't and you're just tossing turd grenades(nm) - Mormad MU - 4/14/21 21:35:39

               2nd graders use "turds". It's past your bedtime! - Sigma MU - 4/14/21 21:36:53

     Wish he’d have had a few more minutes at MU to prove himself - TigerFan92 STL - 4/14/21 21:16:22

          He played almost 1500 minutes. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 21:25:45

               7 minutes a game as a jr. should have let him go last year - TigerFan92 STL - 4/14/21 21:31:12

                    Players compete for minutes - BlackSheep MU - 4/15/21 06:34:15

                    Luckily for him, last year is a do-over - Mormad MU - 4/14/21 21:34:54

     Former Tiger coach Frank Haith is an alum of Elon - FIJItiger MU - 4/14/21 21:10:06

          Jack McKeon, former Royals manager is an alum of Elon also - MNTIGER MU - 4/15/21 10:00:12

     Hope he burns it up, Good Luck Torrence you will always - MU-TULSA MU - 4/14/21 20:45:30

          RE: Hope he burns it up, Good Luck Torrence you will always - Third_Eye STL - 4/14/21 20:50:25

     I wish him the best(nm) - oldtgr MU - 4/14/21 20:34:24

     Good luck young man(nm) - BlackSheep MU - 4/14/21 20:19:02

     Congrats to him.....that's a good landing spot - Mormad MU - 4/14/21 19:51:21

     RE: Watson - HSCoach STL - 4/14/21 19:41:14

          Good kid, congrats...will probably see him on ESPN..nm - tigertix MU - 4/14/21 19:42:27