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Posted on: April 25, 2025 at 12:27:59 CT
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His final season he had 13 seniors, 1 junior, 2 sophomores, 0 freshmen. Left a massive rebuild for his successor. None of the freshmen from his first season were still on the team.

With few exceptions his minutes and points for freshmen now in the NIL/portal era aren't too far out of line with other schools but this has always been his method. Teach a system to transfers.
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MU freshman class contributions via points - FIJItiger MU - 4/25 10:24:53
     Horton I think could have been excellent - Genco98 MU - 4/25 17:05:55
     Gates at Cleveland State - alstl MU - 4/25 12:27:59
     Thanks for MU basketball hx(nm) - oldtgr MU - 4/25 12:17:36
     1979-80 class was the best thing that ever happened to - Uncle John STL - 4/25 11:59:38
          Particularly if you lump Frazier in there - FIJItiger MU - 4/25 12:09:49
               Yep, and AP and Doug were in the next tier behind Stipo, - Uncle John STL - 4/25 15:30:53
                    I will have to say - Genco98 MU - 4/25 17:03:04
                         Hhhmmmmm. I wonder what changed…. - alwaysright MU - 4/26 06:51:42
                         Yep (nm) - Uncle John STL - 4/25 17:08:05
          think about how tragic that statement is. That's 45 years - 90Tiger STL - 4/25 12:03:10
               Unfortunately there hasn't been a game changer like Stipo - Uncle John STL - 4/25 12:38:26
     Irrelevant as game has changed. Similar to comparing - Sigma MU - 4/25 11:39:01
          Exactly - the question then becomes whether the #2 - alstl MU - 4/25 16:31:34
          game has definitely changed when you can transfer in talent - TigerFan92 STL - 4/25 12:04:32
               Gates has had 6 of his 9 prep recruits stay for - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/25 12:25:37
               Transfers, Florida 4/5 starters, Auburn 4/5, Houston 3/5. - Sigma MU - 4/25 12:09:10
                    How many of those transfers were 1 year players (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/25 12:26:17
                         Irrelevant - Genco98 MU - 4/25 17:04:32
                              It’s hard to be year to year - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/25 17:52:14
                                   The discussion was about high school recruiting - Genco98 MU - 4/25 18:43:35
                                        Yes how many of those transfers were 1 year players - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/25 18:50:50
                                             that wasn’t what the discussion was about(nm) - Genco98 MU - 4/25 20:35:03
                                                  Odd that sigma brought up the transfers then (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/25 20:40:00
                                                       Comparing freshmen now vs. pass is similar to comparing - Sigma MU - 4/25 21:55:43
                                                            Development is done differently now. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/25 22:04:04
                         Key is getting transfers for 2 plus years or more. If - Sigma MU - 4/25 14:59:05
                              Agree you need multi year players - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/25 15:04:47
     Yeah not reading that Bob(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life BSU - 4/25 11:30:19
          No bob here. You want see my Barr-sac? - Carlos Rossi KC - 4/26 03:26:17
          MUs ‘92 and ‘93 freshman class was poopy(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/25 11:35:57
          It's a 30 second read for most.* - shorty MU - 4/25 11:34:58
               Oh wow ur so fast bro! - MidMoBaller4Life BSU - 4/25 11:38:33
                    I read at a normal pace. Not my fault that a paragraph - shorty MU - 4/25 17:00:03
                         I’m so intimidated!!11 somebody help me!!11 - MidMoBaller4Life BSU - 4/25 17:38:28




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