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they've won 20+ games the last 7 years

Posted on: March 25, 2025 at 15:27:51 CT
Fire Marshall Bill STL
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and have been to the tournament 4 times in the last 5 years

recent performance is significantly more indicative of a program's strength
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Shaw to the portal... - Carlos Rossi KC - 3/25 13:23:48
     Really good athlete, really good kid. Rooting for him(nm) - Erwin Fletcher STL - 3/26 01:03:57
     I would love to see him transfer to Harvard where his sister - MOKE MU - 3/25 19:44:51
     I don't think Gates is a good developer. - Spartus MWSC - 3/25 14:19:54
          we should hire a HS coach for $100k, and use the $4M+ we - zounami MU - 3/25 14:23:42
          Disagree. But you aren’t going to succeed - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 14:22:45
               How can you mesure to what extent it is - GA Tiger MU - 3/25 14:54:23
                    The only way to judge is… did the players get better - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 15:11:04
                         Yes although I assume nearly all players are somewhat - GA Tiger MU - 3/25 15:41:47
                              on Gates' teams, they have to be (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 19:04:36
               why did the team get worse down the stretch? (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:25:56
                    Not because of development, or lack thereof - alwaysright MU - 3/25 16:39:08
                         Then why? Did Gates lose control of the team? (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 19:04:11
                    Defense. Mizzou went from playing like a top - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 14:28:21
                         but why?... why did the team regress so much? (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:31:13
                              Learning how to handle success - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 14:32:32
                                   most of the SEC improved, nearly half are in the Sweet 16... - zounami MU - 3/25 14:34:00
                                        Mizzou killed South Carolina - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 14:37:42
                                             Mizzou then lost 5 of its next 6 after that game. (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:44:41
                                                  Also true (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 14:48:01
                                                       such a collapse.. it's like Gates lost control of the team (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:52:14
                                                            If he lost control of the roster I would expect - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 15:09:49
                                                            Ha. Not even true. Slow starts to most games we - SabertoothTiger MU - 3/25 15:02:23
                                                                 we lost most of those games by double digits (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 15:03:43
                                                                      yeah after we are down by double digits in the first - SabertoothTiger MU - 3/25 15:08:00
                    ...lost 5 of its last 6, looked every bit like the 0-19 team - zounami MU - 3/25 14:26:21
                         Such nonsense - BlackSheep MU - 3/25 14:56:40
     Tulsa, ORU, or Okie State would take him, they need - MU-TULSA MU - 3/25 14:15:54
     Good luck to him. If he takes a 1000 shots a day - SabertoothTiger MU - 3/25 14:12:45
          Work on your ball skills every day as much as humanly - BlackSheep MU - 3/25 15:10:05
     That stinks, too bad. Best of luck to him(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 3/25 14:07:13
     RE: Shaw to the portal... - GreatScott MU - 3/25 13:53:02
          Hahahaha - BlackSheep MU - 3/25 15:14:36
          I don't think him being from KC has anything to do with it - Carlos Rossi KC - 3/25 14:01:12
          Wasn't put in position to succeed. A P5 player who will - Sigma MU - 3/25 13:59:48
          Lol i think it’ll be ok(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 3/25 13:57:48
          If those recruits don't think they are good enough to - TheWildcat MU - 3/25 13:54:44
          bates and mitchell are also from kansas city(nm) - TigerA MU - 3/25 13:54:43
               Only the ones that leave impact - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 13:57:37
               RE: bates and mitchell are also from kansas city(nm) - GreatScott MU - 3/25 13:57:27
                    Technically all 3 are out of state guys (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 13:58:09
                    you're trying so hard here(nm) - TigerA MU - 3/25 13:58:02
     don't blame him. (nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 3/25 13:49:07
          neither do I (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:08:35
     Freak athlete, never developed enough skills - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 3/25 13:46:32
          Wasn't put in position to succeed this yr. A P5 player - Sigma MU - 3/25 13:53:38
               Hahahahahaha - BlackSheep MU - 3/25 14:59:34
               he can't score, DOC - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 14:01:02
                    Sounds like Gates knew how to use him (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 14:49:34
               Yeah I could see it with the right fit for sure(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 3/25 13:57:08
     Great kid. Mediocre basketball player(nm) - TheRoyalTiger MU - 3/25 13:41:40
     Missouri St could use some athleticism - atMIZZOUnow MU - 3/25 13:32:51
          Missouri state needs a lot (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 13:36:41
               Only one more basket in regulation to beatTHE - TheWildcat MU - 3/25 13:40:02
                    Cuonzo lost his only legitimate D1 guard in Dez White - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 13:54:58
     I would love to know how much of this was his call - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 13:32:33
          I think it was his call. I would have liked to have held on - Carlos Rossi KC - 3/25 13:39:26
               We need wings and shooting more than anything - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 3/25 13:49:36
               why do you think he could have helped next year? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 13:41:36
                    Because we lose a ton.(nm) - Carlos Rossi KC - 3/25 13:47:30
                         other than Gray we aren't losing anyone who plays - TigerA MU - 3/25 13:50:35
                              Agree, I don’t think he would have been getting - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 13:56:52
                                   agree. it's best for everyone(nm) - TigerA MU - 3/25 13:58:33
                         you don't think we'll replace those players with better - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 13:48:14
                              Maybe, but maybe not. I think with decent playing time he - Carlos Rossi KC - 3/25 13:51:11
     not a surprise IMO. Didn't have a place on this team - MizzouAstro MU - 3/25 13:31:49
     Bummer it never panned out. Hope he avgs 15 & 10 at - HissingPrigs77 MU - 3/25 13:31:47
     curious where he will end up(nm) - TigerA MU - 3/25 13:31:11
          Cuonzo could have quite a few former bigs at Mo St - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 3/25 13:34:59
     boooo.(nm) - Harvey Specter MU - 3/25 13:26:02
          will be interesting to see if Gates gets another blank check - zounami MU - 3/25 13:34:00
               New MU million dollar QB should be elite under Drink correct - BlackSheep MU - 3/25 15:06:19
                    That's nothing. Duke just spent $8M on their QB... - zounami MU - 3/25 15:09:11
               Drink better make the playoffs with his unlimited Brink's - Carlos Rossi KC - 3/25 13:37:42
                    Drink's NIL budget was slashed after Gates went 0-19 (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 13:40:08
                         Didn’t Drink just say this week - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 14:11:31
                              yes, he's an elite recruiter who gets more with less (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:13:28
                                   ...but that only goes so far, his roster is still inferior - zounami MU - 3/25 14:14:15
                                        So both sports are in the same boat. - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 14:19:34
                                             no, Mizzou BB's NIL budget ranks much higher in the SEC - zounami MU - 3/25 14:22:00
                                                  What are their budgets? - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 14:25:21
                                                       "have heard that the following schools all have a bigger..." - zounami MU - 3/25 14:29:30
                                                            so Drink struggles with NIL fundraising?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 14:35:33
                                                                 if Mizzou were Georgia or Texas, you could say that (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:38:10
                                                                      we have the 4th highest GDP in the SEC - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 14:39:44
                                                                           Missouri is a mid-sized state with several pro teams... - zounami MU - 3/25 16:17:33
                                                                           He can't answer that question as he has no clue what he - Carlos Rossi KC - 3/25 15:50:13
                                                                                MU has never had the level of fan support (especially in FB) - zounami MU - 3/25 16:30:09
                                                            Your source would be wrong. - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 14:35:28
                                                                 so, you just added another 4 schools ahead of MU in FB... - zounami MU - 3/25 14:40:05
                                                                      Correct both are mid tier SEC schools - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/25 14:42:46
                                                                           we'll have to agree to disagree (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:48:42
                         Nope - Drink said he has THE most talented team he has ever - Carlos Rossi KC - 3/25 13:54:09
                              hes definitely done 'more with less' in terms of the slashed - zounami MU - 3/25 14:01:37
                         RE: Drink's NIL budget was slashed after Gates went 0-19 (nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 13:43:28
                              zounami talks out his ass because the information isn't - kmawv8 MU - 3/25 13:56:29
                              That's nothing. Duke just spent $8M on their QB... - zounami MU - 3/25 13:54:01
                                   $1.5m < $8m (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:04:06
                                   based on what?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 14:02:23
                                        $1.5m < $8m (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:04:25
                                             ...and that's Duke. Imagine what the top SEC programs - zounami MU - 3/25 14:04:55
                                                  agree, crazy to think what Drink has been able to get done - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 14:16:45
                                   Gates is 2-3 on making the playoffs. Drink is o-fer on - Carlos Rossi KC - 3/25 13:56:08
                                        in basketball, you have to win a region of the tournament to - zounami MU - 3/25 19:03:29
                                        88% of the SEC made the NCAAT. It's like making a bowl game(nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:02:51
                                             ...in fact, more SEC teams made the NCAAT than a bowl game - zounami MU - 3/25 14:12:38
                                             ...and Gates lost his 'bowl game' to Drake! (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:03:24
                                                  is that worse than losing to Army and Wake Forest?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 14:31:06
                                                       is Wake Forest in the MO-Valley conference? (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:37:18
                                                            no, but Army is a "mid major"?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 14:43:18
                                                                 Army is in the AAC, ranked #21, and 5-0 in bowl games in - zounami MU - 3/25 14:47:50
                                                                      yes, the "AAC" is the college football equivalent of a "mid - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 14:52:40
                                                                           ranked #21, and 5-0 in bowl games over the past 9 years (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:55:38
                                                                                what does their history have to do with the team - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 15:10:42
                                                                                     It's a good program. 5-0 in bowl games over the past 9 years - zounami MU - 3/25 15:14:22
                                                                                          do you not think Drake is a good program?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 15:16:49
                                                                                               in the last 50 years, Drake only has 5 NCAAT appearances... - zounami MU - 3/25 15:24:03
                                                                                                    they've won 20+ games the last 7 years - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 15:27:51
                                                                                                         in the MO-Valley conference... and they were 0-3 in the - zounami MU - 3/25 15:31:27
                                                                                                              "How bad is the MO Valley," you ask?... well, Drake went - zounami MU - 3/25 15:37:20
                                                                                                                   ...SMS (Cuonzo's team) took Drake to OT, twice (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 15:38:14
                                                                                ...and Drink has Mizzou's greatest post-season win in the - zounami MU - 3/25 14:59:33
                                                                                     you referenced the opt-outs making a difference in the loss - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/25 15:25:18
                                                                                          Mizzou & Ohio State's injuries/optouts were comparable (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 15:32:52
                                                  ...and Princeton!... fvcking loser (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 14:03:35
     Wish him the best, great kid - Gavin Citrus MU - 3/25 13:25:13
          Yup - BlackSheep MU - 3/25 15:08:08
     Makes sense with his lack of PT(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 3/25 13:24:40
          Yeah - I wasn't really shocked.(nm) - Carlos Rossi KC - 3/25 13:28:44




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